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Old 06-28-2012, 03:29 AM   #1121 (permalink)
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Keeping in mind that those that ordered Border Wars were offered BITW for free if they asked for it, I wonder how many of those 'buys' were legit paying buys
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:05 AM   #1122 (permalink)
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According to F4W, it was over 2100 viewers (a new record), 1400 of which were paid for.

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Old 06-28-2012, 10:26 AM   #1123 (permalink)
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We'll see about Elgin once he turns face and goes against HOT but Cole would be a better short and long term answer then Homicide (due to Homicide being a natural heel and what kind of shape he's in) if they stuck with him and I don't know if Eddie has enough personality to be the top face anywhere besides New York, and even then the fans would cheer Steen over him.
Again Elgin seems like he can't survive without the HOT, and is too much of a monster heel. And Homicide still has experience and can be a good anti-hero top face. And Davey had enough personality to be the top face.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:30 AM   #1124 (permalink)
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Elgin will be much better as a babyface than a heel. The mindset that every powerful guy has to be a heel monster irks me a lot. Elgin doesn't have the size to be a dominating heel controlling matches. He's got a strong enough power based moveset to be over as a face but he's also vulnerable enough due to his size to work being worked over a bigger dude like Steen too.

Elgin HAS to be the guy to beat Steen right now. ROH's record of putting the belt on the guy with all the momentum is terrible though. Elgin beating Steen at Final Battle coming off the feud with Strong is the way to go.

Now is the perfect time to push Cole into the main event picture for a bit with Steen but he shouldn't win the belt at this point. I just wish he'd work heel.

Steen/Jay title match will likely be really good. Lethal title matches are obviously gonna happen. Not sure who else they can go with after they've done the big 3 from the off. Whitmer could be a decent TV defense. Doubt they'll main event Generico on an iPPV. Not putting any faith in them bringing in anyone impressive to face Steen. Steen/Necro brawl could be great though and I'm sure they could afford to bring in someone like Necro to do a job. They obviously don't want to be using international talent but none of the Japanese guys should really be facing someone like Steen.

What is there ... 3? 4? iPPVs between now and Final Battle. Cole/Steen should definitely happen. Don't see the harm in Jay/Steen on iPPV if the rest of the card is stacked. Next one will probably be Steen/Lethal.

Thinking off the top of my head but why not do a 2 Night Tournament with both shows on iPPV and make Steen defend the title in every round he's in. Fits in nicely with Cornette doing everything to get the belt off Steen and I've always though a 2 Night Tournament on iPPV would do really well on the right weekend. They could do: (again thinking off the top of my head as I type this)

Night 1:
Richards vs Edwards
Steen vs Generico
Elgin vs Strong
Cole vs O'Reilly
Jacobs vs Whitmer
Lethal vs Ciampa
Briscoes vs WGTT vs ANX vs C&C - Elimination Rules, Final 2 Advance.

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Elgin vs Lethal
Richards vs O'Reilly
Jacobs vs Coleman
Steen vs Jay
Elgin vs Coleman
Steen vs Richards
WGTT/Strong/Ciampa vs Edwards/Generico/Cole/Whitmer
Steen vs Elgin.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:54 PM   #1125 (permalink)
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I questioned the Steen promo at first but after thinking about it long; it makes perfect sense now. Right now there looks to be NO legitimate heels at the moment that can even come to close to a threat to Steen so why not turn him heel and keep building guys like Elgin and Cole who CAN look like a threat so I am anticipating what will come in the future. Elgin vs. Steen should be special and I'm team Elgin all the way.

Is Richards going to go to NJPW full time now? Maybe after a match with O'Reilly?
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:33 AM   #1126 (permalink)
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What is there ... 3? 4? iPPVs between now and Final Battle. Cole/Steen should definitely happen. Don't see the harm in Jay/Steen on iPPV if the rest of the card is stacked. Next one will probably be Steen/Lethal.

There's three ippvs left in the year (DBD, one in Canada and Final Battle) so Elgin/Steen probably will be Final Battle. Guess it depends on how big the name is that they can get to face Steen to see if outside title defenses will be on house shows or the other two ippvs.


And for this week's show it'll be a Road Rage episode with Haas/Jay, Davey/Mondo and highlights from the 4-way with Cole/Strong/Whitmer/O'Reilly.
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:40 PM   #1127 (permalink)
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While I'd love to see Elgin groomed as the savior face, I think it's gonna be Cole--but to be fair, he'll probably work nice too given his red hot status and his work-rate as of late.
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:33 AM   #1128 (permalink)
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ROH 2012 06 30:
Mike Mondo vs Davey Richards - **1/2, looks like a great match.
Jay Briscoe vs Charlie Haas - ***1/4, because of the weak pinfalls.
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Old 06-30-2012, 09:15 PM   #1129 (permalink)
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Enjoyed the match between Mondo and Richards,Mondo keeps impressing me in the ring and on promos. Death match was okay.
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Old 07-01-2012, 01:31 AM   #1130 (permalink)
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ROH TV 6/30/12

Davey Richards vs MIke Mondo ***
First time seeing Mondo since he tagged with Elgin at BITW 2011. Hes awesome. Really good match. Daveys becoming someboyd worth watching again. Really wanted to get the 5 more minutes but Mondo playing the smart heel and not doing it do to his ankle was nice.

Proving Grounds 4 way NA
Wasnt the complete match but closing moments but damn was it fun and the strikes were stiff. I wont spoil anything but BJ and Kyle had a sick spot to the outside

Texas Deathmatch **
Pretty basic hardcore match with your untypical weapons. The match was fun but the ending was shit.
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