Unlike HDNet, the weekly broadcasts will air at different times and for those of us abroad, we'll be seeing it at all different times online too, so I guess we can discuss events/happenings here.
Here's the preview for this week.
SBG have brought some great technical leaps since HDNet. The Haas/Benjamin segment with them holding the belts looks real clear, for instance.
RING OF HONOR NEWS AND NOTES
By Mike Johnson on 2014-09-08 14:05:13
In an update on Michael Elgin, rumors that recent comments by him about his interest in trying out for a Major League Baseball team led to him losing the belt to Jay Briscoe are incorrect. We are told that had no bearing on ROH booking him to lose the ROH title over the weekend and wasn't anything ROH was concerned with. We are also told the visa issues had no bearing on the title loss as the decision was made prior to the visa issue becoming known. That would leave how the belt was portrayed on the independents as being the primary factor. The original plan for the PPV was Elgin retaining going into the 9/27 TV taping.
ROH officials are assisting Elgin in getting back into the United States. The word making the rounds yesterday was that the issue was something that Elgin was responsible for handling.
Am I the only one that thinks its ROH not Elgin's fault for not 'protecting" the belt. Elgin takes these bookings to make extra money, he's not booked as ROH champion in other promotions. Just seems petty to me.
If your champion is being booked for shows you should have a say in outcomes. Like if he loses it must be a tag match he's apart of and his partner is the one that takes the fall in order to protect him and the title. Or at BOLA he loses by DQ like AJ did against Strong
Well there is no non-compete clause so Elgin could do whatever he wants. But as champion, he shouldnt have lost. If he wasnt gonna win BOLA, he shouldnt have competed at all or maybe DQ finish.
The fact that ROH is mad Elgin lost a match on another promotion is stupid. If every promotions champions were told they could job in other promotions nobody would job anywhere. Unless wrestling promoters are willing to pay their champions not to work anywhere else they're going to work for whoever wants to pay them. Plus he did a job on PWG in one of their biggest shows. It's not like went to Chicken Dicks, Arkansas and jobbed to some shitty greenie in front of 10 people. A good booker could have ran with it and made money with it. Trevor Lee beats Elgin at BOLA, Elgin beats him in a rematch at some point, have the rubber match in ROH with the title on the line and Elgin retains. Something like that. It also has to be something that makes sense and should only be done in rare circumstances. Besides I think Elgin was caught in the perfect storm of management heat between the baseball tryout interview, doing a job in another promotion and his visa issue. Bobby Fish and Kyle O'Reilly both did jobs at BOLA and ROH didn't get mad at them. Biff Busick's the CZW World Champion. He lost in the first round and I have seen anything about CZW being mad about that.
Plus he did a job on PWG in one of their biggest shows. It's not like went to Chicken Dicks, Arkansas and jobbed to some shitty greenie in front of 10 people. A good booker could have ran with it and made money with it. Trevor Lee beats Elgin at BOLA, Elgin beats him in a rematch at some point, have the rubber match in ROH with the title on the line and Elgin retains. Something like that.
PWG's audience is tiny compared to ROH's. Do you seriously think it would be a good idea to give a title match to some dude most of ROH's audience never heard of because Elgin lost to him in a promotion they never heard of?
Besides I think Elgin was caught in the perfect storm of management heat between the baseball tryout interview, doing a job in another promotion and his visa issue. Bobby Fish and Kyle O'Reilly both did jobs at BOLA and ROH didn't get mad at them. Biff Busick's the CZW World Champion. He lost in the first round and I have seen anything about CZW being mad about that.
Fish and O'Reilly aren't the top guy of the promotion. It would make sense for ROH management to get offended when their guy goes to another promotion and loses to some guy who's name value isn't that high, even for the indies.
Former ROH champion Michael Elgin issued the following via his Facebook Page:
It is what it is.
I want to start this by thanking friends that have reached out in this terrible time. But I want to rectify many claims that have been made. I am a very easy person to deal with, all I care about is things being done correctly. I'm in no shape or form saying that my way is correct or that I'm always right, but sometimes you need to find middle ground which has obviously been an issue. Did I spend 1 min if my time to say I wanted to try baseball yes, was it intended to hurt ROH or show a lack if interest? Not at all for 30 min prior I was speaking highly if ROH and the world title.
Like any interview my main goal is to have people hear my beliefs of ROH, their history and their World Title. I was never turning my back on wrestling as it's been the only thing that's constant in my life since a very young age. I did play baseball in highschool and college so I wasn't just overhyped due to any situation. I have given my life and well being to wrestling so you can dislike me and jump on the lets hate Elgin bandwagon if you wish but know the story. I wrestle hurt and risk my health because of my love and respect to wrestling and the men and women who came before me. I'm not going into more detail because the I'm whining.
Many issues have arose, and it could be easy to point fingers. I will say many things were a misunderstanding that led to recent happenings. If I'm at fault, I have no problem owning up and taking responsibility. But as if now I will say claims, reports and opinions are very wrong and just rumors. I do hope that one day (sooner than later) things will be corrected and my name is restored.
I will admit I'm in Canada very angry, disappointed and so many other feelings that I don't feel like going into detail about. I'm not asking for goodwill or handouts but show some decency while you have no correct info.
All I know is I am without my beautiful wife, our great pets and new house. We have 2 mortgages to pay and many other bills that my money is going towards. I have almost zero clothes or personal belongings. This is a more drastic situation that anyone could understand. To my family in St. Louis I love and miss you, to Elgin supporters and haters alike thank you for supporting wrestling because without you I wouldn't be anywhere.
Ring of Honor was featured on UK comedy show "Almost Royal", which aired on E4 this week. The mockumentary style show features an upper class "brother and sister" going around the United States. The episode was set in Detroit, and in the final segment the pair visited an ROH TV taping in Dearborn, Michigan. They met up with Truth Martini before the show, and even had an in-ring segment with Nigel McGuinness. The Nigel segment ended with the brother losing an arm wrestling match to Truth Martini before Truth got slapped by the sister for wanting a kiss.
Gutt Reaction: A very rare ROH mention on UK TV. Even the wrestling magazine show that airs on the Challenge channel (UK home of TNA), WrestleTalk TV, never mentions them. By the way, don't bother watching the show, because it is atrociously, insultingly bad.
Hanson vs. Mark Briscoe ***
AJ Styles vs. Adam Cole ****1/4
Jay Lethal vs. Cedric Alexander ***
Michael Elgin vs. Jay Briscoe ***1/2
reDragon vs. Young Bucks ****1/4
Now, I was at ASE6 and I cannot for the life of meseehow Meltzer gave Cole/Styles a 4.25 The botches were obvious and that match would be a 3.5 tops in my book.
Putting the reDRagon/Bucks match on the same level is mindboggling to me.
really like the combination of Moose and RD Evans..entertaining, you got a guy that Prince Nana loves and a guy that he hates, it's funny to watch him cheer Moose and his opponents during a match.
When Corino said that Silas doesn't miss the headstand moonsault much, was he kidding or something? I think I've only seen him connect with that two times ever.
Until now, the closest one to us was Greensboro/High Point/Winston-Salem (WMYV), where I checked out ROH for a month last fall. But who knows? Within a year, we may see ROH finally coming to the remaining top nine markets (New York, L.A., Chicago, Philadelphia, Dallas, San Francisco, Boston, D.C., Houston) and even more!
(By the way, WATL in the '80s used to air a lot of wrestling from promotions that were not WWE or NWA, all under the "Superstars of Wrestling" block (no relation to you-know-what) Saturday nights from 8:00 pm to 3:00 am!!! I'm sure there were many cranky-eyed young boys and teens all over Atlanta who only had a couple hours of sleep before church!)
Another great episode of ROH TV this week. Ep.156 featured The Young Bucks vs. The Briscoes, and AJ Styles vs. Kyle O'Reilly. Both matches took place at Death Before Dishonor XII and were off the chain great.
ACH is still being used even though he missed the PPV show. There was at least talk of not using him. ACH missed his flight. Several ROH performers and management tried to contact him and ROH was able to book him on a later flight, except all phone calls from everyone went straight to voice mail. Raymond Rowe, who lives near him, tried getting in touch. Kyle O’Reilly contacted him through Facebook when the phone didn’t work and ACH said is father was supposed to pick him up and take him to the airport and never showed up. Even at 4 p.m., a few hours before the show, nobody could contact him because he wasn’t answering the phone. The company provided him new flight info but he never picked up. He’s an athletic phenom who could have a bright future in the business, but this was a bad sign, and it wasn’t the first, as there was an issue at a PWG show where he ended up breaking down. He’s said to be really immature about business and doesn’t show the level of ambition as most of the rest of the roster, and at shows, spends a lot of time playing with his hand held video games.
Michael Elgin’s situation has worsened. He’s getting work on small indies in Ontario while he’s stuck there. But the 90 day thing we were told for him to be able to return to the U.S. is now considered a best case scenario, but it’s possible it could take longer. Elgin was really upset about it, being away from his wife, home, pets, etc. for three months. He’s been added to some indie shows over this past weekend and the next few months in Canada.
The company’s biggest market television clearance to date on WJLA, Ch. 7 in Washington, DC, starts on Saturdays at 1 a.m. on 9/20. That’s late Saturday night, not early Saturday morning.
They also announced a return to Toronto on 5/15 and 5/16, a Friday & Saturday night, both at the Ted Reeve Arena. The first night will be an iPPV show and the second night will be a TV taping. They are also looking at booking New York a week later and trying to bring in the New Japan stars, but that is just an idea and not a deal.
He’s said to be really immature about business and doesn’t show the level of ambition as most of the rest of the roster, and at shows, spends a lot of time playing with his hand held video games.
I cant believe this. I remember hearing on, I believe, Colt Cabana's podcast around 1-2 years ago about ACH's lack of motivation. Somehow the subject came up about talented guys on the indies who never leave their local territory and ACH, who at the time was only working in Texas, was the example used.
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