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Old 01-07-2012, 07:52 PM   #951 (permalink)
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Austins performance in the WM 17 match was ridiculously amazing. I don't think I've seen many better character performances than that. Austin/Angle is another one where his performance really raised the match to epic levels. Austin in 2001 was undoubtedly the best wrestler in the world for me.
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Old 01-08-2012, 05:41 AM   #952 (permalink)
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Sheeit, that tag is awesome, but it's not better than Rockers/Orients. Well I wouldn't really argue with anyone that thought it was better, but it's not THAT much better. There's a Rockers/Brainbusters tag (don't remember which one specifically since they had about 4 million) that's about as good too, and I still think the Clique tag is tremendous.
I'll admit to being shitty and not having watched that Clique tag, but I'd say the Clash tag is fairly comfortably ahead of Rockers/Orients or Rockers/Busters (I'd probably go Rockers/Busters 23/1/89 > Rockers/Orients btw. Might say the Boston Garden Rockers/Busters is better as well). I don't mean "comfortably" as in "smokes that match," but more "comfortably" as in "I wouldn't think twice about which one I preferred." I could see myself changing my mind so take it fwiw.

Not sure how many US tags top the Clash match, but there's probably at least ten, I'll have fun with this even though it isn't the right thread to do so :

-Final Conflict tag is better.
-Does WarGames 92 count? if it does; yeah.
-Mayyyyyyyyybe WarGames 87 (IF IT COUNTS). Need to watch it again.
-I like the 3-on-3 from that Saturday Night episode in 5/92 better. Arn/Eaton/Larry v Steamboat/Dustin/Koloff (everyone watch that btw)
-I thought MVC v Steiners from Clash 19 was a liiiiiiiiittle bit better.
-Midnights v Fantastics 26/4/88 is amazing and I'd say it definitely tops it based on my last watch of it (2009 ). That might be my #2 US tag.
-On the fence about MX v RnR from WrestleWar, Pillman/Windham v Steamboat/Douglas from Starrcade and MX v Southern Boys from GAB. Could swap those three + Clash 17 tag at any given time. Though I'm less likely to put MX v RnR anywhere but fourth of those four.
-MX/Ernie Ladd v RnR/Jim Duggan (the first one from 85- though the second one is great as well) is fantastic and I might say it's better.
-RnR v THOSE RUSSIANS from 85 (the really long one) is a contender as well.
-On of the Arn/Tully v Windham/Luger matches was probably as good (don't ask me which one right now).

So where would I rank the Clash tag in greatest US tags? I don't fucking know. But this was fun.






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Old 01-08-2012, 08:53 AM   #953 (permalink)
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^That's an incredible list right there. You've listed some of my favourite matches ever. There are so many classic tags.
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Old 01-08-2012, 08:56 AM   #954 (permalink)
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I always find a great tag match is far better than a great singles match.
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I suppose tags are a little easier to work a great story in to.
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I don't give "star ratings" to any matches I've seen. Some of my favourites off the top of my head:

-Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle (Royal Rumble 2003)

-CM Punk vs. Samoa Joe (ROH World Title Classic)

-Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (Any of their matches, really)

-Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin (Wrestlemania 13)

-Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania 25 & 26)

-CM Punk vs. John Cena (Money in the Bank 2011)

-Eddie Guerrero vs. Dean Malenko (Any match in ECW they had)

-Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (Wrestlemania 10)

-Chris Benoit vs. HHH vs. Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania 20)

-Eddie Guerrero vs. Kurt Angle (Wrestlemania 20)

-Chris Benoit vs. Steve Austin (Smackdown Summer of 2001)

-Shane Douglas vs. Terry Funk vs. Sabu (ECW Night the Line Was Crossed 1994)

-Cactus Jack vs. HHH (Royal Rumble 2000)

-Mankind vs. Undertaker (Hell in a Cell 1998)

-Hulk Hogan vs. Andre (Wrestlemania 3)

-Hulk Hogan vs. The Rock (Wrestlemania 18)

-Rob Van Dam vs. John Cena (ECW ONS 2006)

-Tommy Dreamer/Terry Funk vs. Mick Foley/Edge (ECW ONS 2006)

-Tommy Dreamer/Sandman vs. Dudley Boyz (ECW ONS 2005)


I think that's it for now.
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Bingo.
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I suppose tags are a little easier to work a great story in to.
My dynamics to work with, allows people to have more time to sell and what not.
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Hart/Henning and Hart/Hart aren't that great of matches. They're praised a lot because compared to other WWE matches, the technical wrestling and athleticism seemed unique, especially for its time. Those matches don't hold up as anything special.

I also like the Summerslam cage match more than the WM match between the Hart brothers. Seems like the Cage match isn't as popular anymore, though in the 90s everyone used to like that match more. The match is a bit too long though, and the falls become mundane.



Every Austin match I've ever watched and thought was great, was great because of Austin's acting. That's what makes Austin an elite wrestler, he injects all these little things and it makes him a very vibrant performer.
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I'm with 93 on the Clash tag. Agree on the majority of the tags he listed being better bar the MVC/Steiners and the Mid South 6 man.

3) The Dirty White Boys vs. Terry Daniels & Bill Dundee (5/11/85)
5) The Fantastics vs. "Dr. Death" Steve Williams & Jake Roberts (4/14/85)
=) The Fantastics vs. The Midnight Express (OKC 8/9/84)
=) The Midnight Express vs. Bill Dundee & Porkchop Cash (4/6/84)

I'd say them Mid South tags are all better than it too. The Clash tag is phenomenal btw, not trying to downplay it one bit. Best US tag for me would probably be MX vs Fantastics from the 1st Clash. That or MX vs Southern Boys from GAB 1990. I think at least. Final Conflict tag would have to be right up there too thinking about it. War Games 92 would be a contender too for sure if you're counting War Games a tag match.

Edit: Thinking about there's a TON of ROH tags that I'd consider for best US tag of all time. Prophecy/SCS and Briscoes/Steenerico Street Fights definitely would be. Briscoes vs Aries/Strong from Unified would be right up there too. Ladder War I too. Different style though so I guess they're not a fair comparison but yeah ROH tags should at least be mentioned on the topic. There's some PWG tags too.
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