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post #901 of 1407 (permalink) Old 12-29-2011, 03:27 PM
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Ricky “The Dragon” Steamboat vs Randy “Macho Man” Savage - WWF Wrestlemania III - Intercontinental Championship
I've always thought this match was overrated, but on this viewing, I loved it. So many nearfalls and so much action for a 15 minute match. Add on top of that a mental crowd and plenty of drama and you got yourself an all-time classic.
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I always thought this was underrated. Almost nobody puts it at >****1/2. I also have it at 5 and it's not even close to be less than that. Perfect match.

I've never posted my list so here it goes. This goes w/o rating a lot of matches I've watched like bryan/nigel @ unified despite watching it like 5 times and same for HDA vs misawa/kobashi on 6/9/95. Also lots of AJPW stuff still to get to.

AJPW
Tenryu vs Kawada - 10/28/00
Kawada/Taue vs Kobashi/Misawa - 12/3/93
Misawa vs Kawada - 6/3/94
Misawa vs Jumbo - Champions Carnival 92
Misawa/Kawada/Kikuchi vs Taue/Jumbo/Fuchi - 8/18/90
Jumbo vs Tenryu - 6/5/89
Jumbo vs Misawa - 6/8/90
Jumbo vs Kawada - 10/24/91
Kawada vs Tsuruta - 10/24/91
Suzuki vs. Sawama - 8/29/10

NJPW
Goto vs Tanahashi - 11/11/07
Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Ultimo Dragon - 8/4/96.
El Samurai vs. Kanemoto - 6/5/97.
Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani - 2/9/97
Jushin Liger vs. Great Sasuke - 7/8/94

WWF/E
Austin vs Hart - WM XIII
Steamboat vs Savage - WMIII
Michaels vs Undertaker - WM XXV
Punk vs Cena - MitB
Benoit vs HHH vs HBK - WM XX
Angle/Benoit vs Edge/Mysterio - No Mercy 2002
Bret vs Owen - WM X
Rock vs Austin - WM X-7
TLC II - WM X-7

Others
McGuiness vs Aries - Rising Above 07
Flair vs Steamboat - WWar89
MCMG vs Briscoes - GTGM
Generico vs Claudio - Kurt Russell Reunion 2
Kobashi vs Joe
NVC vs Generico/Ricochet - ASW8

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WWE
Steamboat vs Savage - WM III
Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon - WM X
Shawn Michaels vs Mankind - Mind Games
Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker - Badd Blood 97
Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker - WM XXVI
Kurt Angle vs Chris Benoit - Royal Rumble 03
Kurt Angle/ Chris Benoit vs Edge/Rey Mysterio - No Mercy 02
Bret Hart/Owen Hart vs Rick and Scott Stiner - Raw 94?
Bret Hart vs Owen Hart - WM X
Bret Hart vs Stone Cold - WM XIII
Stone Cold vs The Rock - WM XVII
CM Punk vs John Cena - Money in the Bank 11

WCW
Steamboat vs Ric Flair - Clash of Champions VI
Sting vs Ric Flair - Clash of Champions I
Jushin Liger vs Brian Pillman - Superbrawl 92
Chris Benoit vs Kevin Sullivan - GAB 96
Rey Misterio vs Eddie Guerrero - Havoc 97

ROH
CM Punk vs Samoa Joe II
Kevin Steen vs El Generico - Final Battle 10
Tyler Black vs Davey Richards - DBD VIII
Bryan Danielson vs Takeshi Morishima - MM II
Bryan Danielson vs Low-Ki - RRC
Bryan Danielson vs Nigel McGuinness- Unified
Bryan Danielson & Tyler Black vs The American Wolves - Tag Title Classic
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People have been pimping Savage/Steamboat as a "***** match" for about 25 years now. There's no way in Hell it's underrated.

I never thought it was THAT good, but I watched the entire feud again a couple years ago and it "clicked" for me at that point. It's a tremendous match. I watched it as part of a greatest WWF/E match ever poll and I think I had it at #3 in the end, which is WAAAAY higher than I would've had it a year earlier. The lead-in match from Toronto is excellent as well. Kind of kills the "Steamboat never brought the hate" argument that gets thrown at the Wrestlemania match (which is an argument I had made countless times myself), in that Steamboat brings the hate in the Toronto match and it doesn't get him shit. He busts Savage open, beats the shit out of him...and still loses. By the time Wrestlemania rolled around, it was time to try something else.


Danielson/Nigel from 6YA is likely my #1 match in ROH history. Probably Nigel's career performance. The way he riled up the ROH smarks to the point where they started a fucking "USA" chant is nuts.
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Randy Savage vs Steamboat is amongst the most heralded matches, and it is probably Steamboat's most famous match.

I suppose you could say it is underrated in this thread since it did not get many mentions.


Randy Savage vs Steamboat just clicks, even though they don't do anything special, it's still a very breezy watch. It's overrated in some ways, but the two were on that night and they put on an entertaining performance.
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Randy Savage vs Steamboat is amongst the most heralded matches, and it is probably Steamboat's most famous match.

I suppose you could say it is underrated in this thread since it did not get many mentions.
that's what i mean in addition to seeing it get < 5 in the wwe dvd thread many times
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I suppose you could say it is underrated in this thread since it did not get many mentions.
Not really. I mean it didn't get many metions ITT, yeah, but I'm betting most think it's still a great match despite the lack of five star opinions.

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Just watched Steamboat vs Savage to make sure I wasn't crazy in the past and I still have it at about **** 1/4 I just can't go higher on it then that. I just don't see what is so amazing about it.
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The Boston Street Fight was probably the best of the series and that's damn close to being 5* as well.
digging up this post from 10/19. finally watched this match again. this match is very hard to rate. it's really not a wrestling match. their ladder match was easier to rate than this. this was 4 guys that had an issue that beat the holy hell out of each other. it's incredibly fun to watch but idk what i'd rate it.

been watching old ROH classics all day and some thoughts:
KENTA vs Danielson - GBH V: easy *****. KENTA is one merciless sob.
KENTA vs Nigel - 7th Anniversary Show: another ***** classic. Nigel continuously going for the lariat and KENTA not falling for it forcing Nigel to do other things is great.
Nigel vs Danielson - Unified: *****. wow. great technical match with some good brawling and sick violence. can't wait to watch the rest of their matches (most of which i've seen but not all ).
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KENTA vs Nigel - 7th Anniversary Show: another ***** classic. Nigel continuously going for the lariat and KENTA not falling for it forcing Nigel to do other things is great.
Nigel fighting with no arms is what makes that a great match.

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Shit, someone should make a Nigel/Dragon compilation, 10 great matches + many great promos. Simply the greatest feud in ROH history.
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