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Old 12-13-2011, 02:49 PM   #861 (permalink)
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I personally find them both overrated but I don't understand how someone can knock Rock/Hogan as a five star match yet praise Cena/Punk in the same way. Neither matches are technically sound but both had electric atmosphere, awesome crowd interaction and a cool little story going in. If Cena and Punk had wrestled like Benoit and Bret Hart then I would understand but fact is they didn't and Rock/Hogan has just as much claim to being a five star match as their bout does.

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Old 12-13-2011, 03:04 PM   #862 (permalink)
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fact is they didn't and Rock/Hogan has just as much claim to being a five star match as their bout does.
no. punk/cena put on an exciting match in an exciting atmosphere where the winner was in doubt. punk/cena, while having botches still had a great match. rock/hogan put on a garbage match, with a garbage storyline, where the winner was never in doubt. by your logic we should just go ahead and give cena/rock 5* right now because it will be an incredible atmosphere and a garbage storyline.

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michaels vs undertaker @ WM 25. watched this around a month ago after having not seen it since it happened and it is an incredible match. i then watched the rematch and that is the most overrated pile of garbage i've ever seen. it's on par with hhh/undertaker this year which i gave something like ***1/4 to.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:24 PM   #863 (permalink)
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no. punk/cena put on an exciting match in an exciting atmosphere where the winner was in doubt. punk/cena, while having botches still had a great match. rock/hogan put on a garbage match, with a garbage storyline, where the winner was never in doubt. by your logic we should just go ahead and give cena/rock 5* right now because it will be an incredible atmosphere and a garbage storyline.

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michaels vs undertaker @ WM 25. watched this around a month ago after having not seen it since it happened and it is an incredible match. i then watched the rematch and that is the most overrated pile of garbage i've ever seen. it's on par with hhh/undertaker this year which i gave something like ***1/4 to.
You thought the winner was in doubt? The second they announced the firing stipulation I knew Punk was going to win. Take that away and both matches are exciting in an exciting atmosphere. Besides I'm sure most people who mock Hogan and Rock's claims of it being a five star match do so for the mediocre wrestling not because they weren't engaged by the action. What we have is two electrically charged mediocre wrestling matches and I don't see much difference in quality. And you can't praise the storyline going in and then merely discard the shit that came afterwards. It's all part of the package. I took HBK and Flair down a star when Flair ruined his retirement.

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Old 12-13-2011, 03:35 PM   #864 (permalink)
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There's a great difference in quality, don't fuck me. Still, I'd give the five stars to both.
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Old 12-13-2011, 03:44 PM   #865 (permalink)
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You thought the winner was in doubt? The second they announced the firing stipulation I knew Punk was going to win.
silly me for actually being a wrestling fan and enjoying something instead of analyzing something to death.

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And you can't praise the storyline going in and then merely discard the shit that came afterwards.
actually i can because up until that point it was perfect (the storyline and match). what happened afterwards is retarded. if i stopped watching wrestling after the match can i call it 5*? it was always going to be the climax of the story because there was nowhere to go after that. w/e though, it's just preference. i enjoy watching rock/hogan and probably could all day but it's not as good in any way as punk/cena.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:20 PM   #866 (permalink)
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silly me for actually being a wrestling fan and enjoying something instead of analyzing something to death.



actually i can because up until that point it was perfect (the storyline and match). what happened afterwards is retarded. if i stopped watching wrestling after the match can i call it 5*? it was always going to be the climax of the story because there was nowhere to go after that. w/e though, it's just preference. i enjoy watching rock/hogan and probably could all day but it's not as good in any way as punk/cena.
I'm not analyzing it to death, you mentioned that one of the positives of the match was not knowing who was going to win but wwe have done so many firing angles in the past half decade that as soon as another one came up I knew Cena was going to lose and then be back again either within a matter of days or weeks.

As exciting as the match was, I can't reward mediocre wrestling five stars. It'd be like calling Titanic a masterpiece for its spectacle in spite of its average screenplay.
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:30 PM   #867 (permalink)
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Some good matches I've recently watched.


- Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee - Loser Leaves Town - 1986

- Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Kurt Angle - Summerslam 2001

- Jerry Lawler vs Dutch Mantell - No DQ Match - 1982

- Ron Garvin vs Tully Blanchard - 1986
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Old 12-14-2011, 04:26 PM   #868 (permalink)
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The Rock vs. Chris Jericho at the Royal Rumble 2002 is one of my favorites, I also just finished watching Summerslam 1997 for the 100th time and still think Bret Hart vs. The Undertaker with Michaels as the referee is an outstanding match.
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Old 12-14-2011, 09:33 PM   #869 (permalink)
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A 5 star match imo? Here we go:

Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat ~ NWA Clash of the Champions VI

Best of their series if you ask me.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:34 AM   #870 (permalink)
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Richards and Edwards 2 has been probably the only match i've watched over 3 times
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