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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

Felt like posting my updated list, so this is the stuff I consider to be the best matches (or my favorites) I've ever seen up to this point.

Misawa/Kobashi v Kawada/Taue (9/6/95)
Misawa/Kobashi v Kawada/Taue (12/3/93)
Misawa v Jumbo (1/9/90)
Misawa v Kawada (3/6/94)
Kobashi/Kikuchi vs Kroffat/Furnas (25/5/92)
Misawa v Taue (CC Final 95)
Misawa vs Kobashi 97

Flair v Steamboat 2/3 falls (Clash Of The Champions 89)

Bret vs Austin (Wrestlemania 13)
The Rock v Austin (Wrestlemania 17)
HHH v Michaels v Benoit (Wrestlemania 20)

Danielson/Black v American Wolves (Tag Title Classic)
Danielson v KENTA (Driven 07)
Joe v Punk II (Joe v Punk II)
Low Ki vs KENTA (Final Battle 05)
Joe v Kobashi (Joe v Kobashi)

Kobashi v Akiyama (10/7/04)
Kobashi v Takayama (04)
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Random rewatch: Jumbo vs. Misawa 9/1/1990, it's still one of the best matches of all time. Top 7 definitely. Emotions, drama, crowd, counters, athleticism, storytelling, game plans... You got it all. Just like in Flair/Steamer matches, you don't really know when it's going to end, in 15, 25 or 40 minutes. That's what I call THE drama. It's a structure without structure. God, I miss Jumbo. What! A! Boss!
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That Kawada/Jumbo match is amazing, Kawada's first real breakout singles match and perhaps Jumbo's truly last 'great match'. Also good callbacks to the Misawa/Jumbo feud and the resulting 6 man tags, and with Kawada being Misawa's second in command he and Jumbo locked up enough times to the point where they had a real good dynamic of Kawada being a level below Jumbo, but reducing that level with every encounter they had.

Jumbo's performance in the 09/01 match is still a great contender for GOAT performance, captured the story of an old man who knows his peak years are behind him determined to show he has still has energy in the tank and is still worthy of being called the top dog.
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Segunda, who's better...early 90's Jumbo or your grumpy boo 05'-06'-11' Finlay?

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Its like asking me to pick between Springsteen and Dylan, I'd give the edge to Finlay only since I've seen more of his 2006 run and beyond more recently and its more heavily imprinted in my brain, can't think of a better performance though than Jumbo's vs Misawa but the Benoit TV and PPV series from 2006, the EVOLVE Callihan match and a bunch of other Finlay shit (Regal uncensored) will never be any less than awesome to me. Both amazing wrestlers although early Jumbo does make me think he aged much better, gonna pounce on Cal's Finlay set eventually since that includes more of his athletic prime (watching a WOS match vs Marty Jones shocked me as to just how agile mid 80s Finlay was) and hidden Europe work which is criminally lost to most.

Grumpy Finlay and Grumpy Tenryu vs PWG Young Bucks = GREATEST SQUASH OF ALL TIME BTW.
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Jumbo/Misawa 9/1/90 is one of the best matches ever, I prefer it to the more talked about Misawa/Kawada 94 match, although they are very different. Jumbo completely losing it and pummeling Misawa's face in is amazing to watch.

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anyone got some territory or lucha matches? looking for some good stuff that isn't widely pimped.
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Finlay simply does not have the match list to be considered anywhere near Jumbo.
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anyone got some territory or lucha matches? looking for some good stuff that isn't widely pimped.
http://www.wrestlingforum.com/megapo...n-memphis.html ?
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Finlay simply does not have the match list to be considered anywhere near Jumbo.
He's been considerably great throughout his career, whereas watching early to mid 80s Jumbo gets harder and harder everytime I watch, the man was amazing near the end of his career but there's a reason more and more people have moved away from 'Jumbo is the GOAT' and fpcused more on Kawada, Fujiwara, Tenryu, Lawler, Misawa, Funk etc as the potential GOAT.

Fujiwara and Funk can also be debated as having a far lesser catalogue of matches than Jumbo, but both to me are considerably better when you consider their entire careers. At this stage there's more room to debate whether Funk was ever better than Jumbo was in 1990-1991 than there is whether Funk is better than Tsuruta period because when you take their entire careers Funk smokes Jumbo by a considerable margin.
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