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post #741 of 1407 (permalink) Old 10-19-2011, 06:49 PM
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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

If I still used star ratings, HBK/Razor at WrestleMania is probably the only ladder or TLC match I would give **** or more to. Not a fan of the gimmick at all, really.

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Sandman/Sabu *3/4
if this is the Stairway to Hell match i'd give it ***** in enjoyment. the match def. isn't 5 but it's a lot of fun to watch.
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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

Sandman/Sabu is an amazing Ladder Match, especially in terms of being totally crazy but kinda structured in an odd way.

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Yeah I loved Sandman/Sabu. Shit it's been so long since I watched any ECW stuff.

Also, I forgot about the Steen/Generico vs Briscoes Boston street fight, that shit was awesome as hell. That might actually be 5* for me, need to rewatch it though.
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Teh Briscoes/Steenerico Boston Street Fight is a five star slugfest. Totally better than Ladder War I.
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Awesome brawl and everything you could want in a wild heated street fight.

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post #746 of 1407 (permalink) Old 10-20-2011, 09:54 AM
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Sandman/Sabu is an amazing Ladder Match, especially in terms of being totally crazy but kinda structured in an odd way.
Structure? Maybe I need a rewatch, but I can't remember there being much rhyme or reason to anything the Sandman does in that match. I will say it is one of the better ECW gimmick matches in terms of violence and shock value, but my star rating is of course relative to something like the original Ladder War which I think is a perfect piece of hate-filled wrestling.

Edit: I'm watching this on youtube, where someone has set this to music by the band Confined. Okay. Cool grapple over the ladder to start, but Sabu drops low and kicks Sandman's legs out from under him. Then Sabu folds the ladder up and launches it at his opponent as hard as possible. He keeps doing this until Sandman falls over. Sabu drapes Sandman over the ladder as he sets it up on its side. Fonzie comes in to hold a chair over Sandman's head while Sabu hits a springboard sommersalt legdrop on the chair. Then Sabu puts the ladder over Sandman and hits a top rope legdrop with a chair. Sandman tries to go to the outside but Sabu hits a baseball slide and sends him into the crowd. Triple jump springboard plancha! They brawl around the ECW arena, going past the bleachers and up to the stage. Sabu sets up a table on the lower stage and hits a leg drop from the top stage, collapsing the entire table in the process. Sandman should be dead by now, but he manages to get a punch in on Sabu and hits a body slam in the stage, followed by an elbow drop. The brawl back to ringside, where Fonzie has set up a couple tables. Sandman grabs the ladder from the ring and suplexes it onto Sabu and into the crowd. Sandman throws Sabu onto one of the tables and hits a leg drop, but doesn't really put him through the table. Cool spot here as Sandy lays a ladder flat in the ring and extends it to the guard rail and then puts a table parallel. He then puts Sabu on the ladder and leg drops him through the table. Back in the ring and Sandman sets up the ladder and begins climbing. Sabu struggles but Sandman knocks him down and retrieves the barbed wire, but Sabu pushes the ladder over and sends Sandy through a table on the outside. Crowd is really into this. Sabu teases another triple jump plancha, but grabs the barbed wire instead! Sabu misses and eats both guard rail and barbed wire! Pretty sure he landed wrong and broke his jaw there. Sandman stalls and makes a nest of barbed wire in the corner. Sabu pushes him into the wire and throws a chair at him. Sabu finds a spike in his boots and starts stabbing and carving Sandman. Sandman is a bloody mess as Sabu puts a ring of barbed wire around his neck and ties him to the tree of woe. Sabu places a chair over Sandman's head and then jumps off another chair and hits a double stomp! He sets Sandman up in the corner with barbed wire, but misses a leg lariet and goes straight into the wire. Sandman, covered in blood and barbed wire, grabs his trusty cane. Cane shot to the face! With a broken jaw! Fonzie wraps tape around Sabu's jaw to hold it in place. Sandman is not in much better shape. He tries for an irish whip into the barbed wire, but Sabu reverses. Triple jump moonsault! Springboard leg drop. Arabian face buster. Sabu's jaw is so bad he can't recover. Sandman gets the cane again. Probably the coolest visual of Sandman, with barbed wire from head to torso and his face covered in blood. Sick cane shot to the head. Sandman falls on top. 1. 2. 3. Sandman hobbles to the back as Fonzie tries to tape Sabu back together. This would signify the end of their nearly 6 month feud, which began as a result of Sabu's appearances on WWF television with RVD and Jerry Lawler. This should have been a relatively big draw for ECW at the time, but since they weren't allowed to show barbed wire on TV or PPV, this was just a house show and not seen by many at the time. It is now fondly remembered as one of the best examples of "ECW hardcore" and included on WWE comps from time to time. As SEABS said earlier, the structure to the match is a little weird compared to most ladder matches. But of course they aren't trying to win a belt, just brutalize each other. And man. This was brutal. I liked this a lot more upon reviewing. The metal music didn't hurt either. ***

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It does hold up over time if you appreciate storytelling and psychology. You should hear Bryan & Vinny's review of the match recently.
the same guys who said the Lawler vs Funk Empty Arena match "looked shitty" or something like that?? no thanks.

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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

Yeah I was listening to that show earlier where they said that and it caught me completely off guard. Had to rewind it to check they were talking about that match. I guess in their defense they hadn't actually seen the match and an Empty Arena Match can look shitty at a brief glance I guess.

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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

No excuses man . In Memphis Heat they show part of the Funk/Russell interaction, that alone should hype them up for the EAM. And the action is supposed to look like a mess. It's Memphis, it's a heated feud and it's an unique match.

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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists


AJPW 10/24/1991
Toshiaki Kawada vs Jumbo Tsurata
I was pleasantly surprised to find out that Kawada and Tsuruta did have a singles match and boy, did I love it. They show you how you can have a 5 star match with only using moves such as strikes, headlocks and backdrops. The crowd is very hot and the story is brilliant. It's not Kawada's day and Tsuruta gets to keep the the triple crown before going into retirement the next year. Seeing Tsuruta celebrating with the fans seemed like his farewell moment.
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