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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

Slaughter is a guy I still need to see more of but LOVED his shit with BOB.

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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

The two 81 matches might be Backlunds best matches, actually.

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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

One thing that gets me that not one mention of Lou Thesz has made it here. I haven't seen fuck all from the guy, but I've heard he's meant to be one of the best. Maybe his stuff hasn't aged well or something.
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He'd turned 60 years old by the mid-1970s so there's really not much of his stuff availabe. He def. looked like he could go, though, from what I've seen. Rikidozan, despite being acknowledged as one of the absolute biggest icons in wrestling history (and "the Grandfather of Puroresu"), didn't seem like that good a wrestler but he had a couple of really good stuff with Thesz. Things liek that make me think how good Thesz's stuff was with better wrestlers.

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Echo the love for Slaughter, his corner bump to the floor is one of my favourite bumps in history and he was just an incredible heel and face. Amazing to see how good he is when you never really thought of him as being much of a worker and then get blown away. Hell I thought he was the better part of both Backlund matches in 81, although Backlund came much closer to eclipsing him in the Cage match I thought.

As for Lou Thesz, I think as Yeah1993 said its just a matter of how much of his stuff is available. Anything I've seen on Youtube etc is more like a highlight reel showing some grappling sequences and breaking the match up into a highlight reel. Its hard to really nominate him or talk a lot about him when so little of his stuff has made tape, or been released into the mainstream world. Its the same with guys like El Satanico, from the little I've seen of him I'd put him up there with the very best ever...but his match catalogue I can name at this point may not even cover 10 matches. Hopefully the rumours of a Satanico comp will be realised once the Lucha 80s set comes out and he wows people with just how incredible he is.
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There's a good chunk of Satanico in a Wrestling KO thread in their download forum. Satanico's still going today (I think, anyway, I saw a match he had in March) so that helps footage being available.

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Yeah I was really tempted to sign up once I heard they had footage of him as well as discuss a lot of shit with some of the people there. Think I know the March match you're on about, may have read about it in your blog and then watched it: IIRC its 30 minutes of great grappling and matwork with a couple of crap finishes.

Ohtani's Jacket's blog on Lucha has also been terrific in tracking down a lot of great stuff I haven't seen pimped anywhere else, think its his pimping of Satanico that got me into looking for some of his stuff.
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Off the top of my head;

1. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WM X)
2. Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon (WM X)
3. Dynamite Kid vs. Tiger Mask (Can't recall the date)
4. Paul London vs. AJ Styles (Night of Grudges ROH)
5. Edge & Christian vs. Hardys vs Dudleys (WM XVII)
6. Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels (Unbreakable 2005)
7. Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels (Turning Point 2009)
8. AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels (Final Resolution)
9. Rey Mysterio vs. Psychosis (Bash at the Beach 1996)
10. Ultimo Dragon vs. Rey Mysterio (World War 3 1996) -- Probably over-rated slightly, but it was the the first match to introduce me to this crazy style of wrestling.
11. Jimmy Rave vs. CM Punk (Third Year Anniversary Part 3 (ROH)
12. Ric Flair & Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart & Randy Savage (Coliseum Video)
13. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring 1993)
14. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (Summerslam 1994)
15. Marty Jannetty vs. Shawn Michaels (Raw 1993) -- Again, probably over-rated slightly but for the time given, I don't think you could ask for a better match.
16. Marty Jannetty vs. Kurt Angle (Smackdown 2004) -- Probably because I didn't expect anything close to what we got.
17. Chris Benoit vs. Bret Hart (Owen Hart Tribute) -- Emotion alone brings this up.
18. Marty Jannetty vs. Doink the Clown (RAW)
19. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H (WM XX)
20. Chris Jericho vs. Christian (WM XX)

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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

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Off the top of my head;

1. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WM X)
2. Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon (WM X)
3. Dynamite Kid vs. Tiger Mask (Can't recall the date)
4. Paul London vs. AJ Styles (Night of Grudges ROH)
5. Edge & Christian vs. Hardys vs Dudleys (WM XVII)
6. Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels (Unbreakable 2005)
7. Samoa Joe vs. AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels (Turning Point 2009)
8. AJ Styles vs. Chris Daniels (Final Resolution)
9. Rey Mysterio vs. Psychosis (Bash at the Beach 1996)
10. Ultimo Dragon vs. Rey Mysterio (World War 3 1996) -- Probably over-rated slightly, but it was the the first match to introduce me to this crazy style of wrestling.
11. Jimmy Rave vs. CM Punk (Third Year Anniversary Part 3 (ROH)
12. Ric Flair & Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart & Randy Savage (Coliseum Video)
13. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring 1993)
14. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (Summerslam 1994)
15. Marty Jannetty vs. Shawn Michaels (Raw 1993) -- Again, probably over-rated slightly but for the time given, I don't think you could ask for a better match.
16. Marty Jannetty vs. Kurt Angle (Smackdown 2004) -- Probably because I didn't expect anything close to what we got.
17. Chris Benoit vs. Bret Hart (Owen Hart Tribute) -- Emotion alone brings this up.
18. Marty Jannetty vs. Doink the Clown (RAW)
19. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H (WM XX)
20. Chris Jericho vs. Christian (WM XX)
Wasn't really expecting that, but...
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Wasn't really expecting that, but...
I heard there was a pretty bad botch during the match, but since I have only seen the DVD version, I didn't ever see the botch since they edited it out.

I thought more people would have a problem with the Doink the Clown vs. Marty Jannetty match on my list, lol.
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