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Old 09-04-2011, 12:24 PM   #491 (permalink)
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Explain what's so horrendous about it..
Same Angle nonsense tbh mixed in with Hardy being horrible execution wise (including breaking Angle's rib with a Swanton). They start doing chain wrestling etc but never build or develop it as 'Angle bests Hardy so Hardy tries somethig else', they just move into brawling and arm drags and shit. They throw things like swanton's to the floor out halfway into the match, Hardy's in an ankle lock for like 5 minutes which Kurt never touched prior and IIRC after the restart he's fucking awful at selling it and makes it look like shit on top of Kurt throwing it out there himself. I can't remember but I also want to say Angle takes a while going back to the ankle after he locks it in for the 5 minutes and attempts the Angle slam instead but I may be wrong there and confusing with another match of his.

The whole execution of 'there must be a winner' and then them doing some copout finish added to the massacre that was my eyes whilst watching that shower of shit. Nothing was built, sold or developed to mean anything in the context of the match, neither man brought much in the way of character or reacted to their finishers being kicked out of, I think Tenay even sold a Swanton kick out as 'did he get it??? No' and crapped on it as bad as Hardy & Angle did. Just ultimately never mattered in the end with them going the length they did as it wasn't sold or treated as impactful and after declaring there would finally be a winner to this 'epic' (Trading standards should have been consulted at this point) battle as they did a BS finish and then did a rematch on free TV a week later which again went longer than it needed to as they never built the match to be anything better than a 6 minute sprint would have sufficed.

The rematch also has by far Angle's worst moment of stupidity I've ever seen:

He attempts an ankle lock from nowhere and the match hasn't built at all well to this tease and Hardy manages to escape. Kurt then picks him up and hits two Angle slams like they're bloody bodyslams which Hardy kicks out of like they're a standard bodyslam, and as he's struggling to get to his feet Angle instead of now applying the ankle lock to a much more weakened Hardy prances around the ring for 20 seconds......picks Hardy up and hits a snap suplex and sleeper. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Old 09-04-2011, 12:26 PM   #492 (permalink)
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Umm... Eh... I thought you said Jeff Jarrett vs Kurt Angle....

Shite. My bad.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:24 PM   #493 (permalink)
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Kurt Angle Vs Jeff Hardy nearly gave me a stroke. I don't think I've ever been that pissed off watching a WRESTLING MATCH. 30 minutes of absolute fucking stupidity. Makes the Angle/Anderson and Angle/Jarrett cage matches seem like ***** matches in comparison.
What's wrong with the Angle/Anderson cage match?
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:30 PM   #494 (permalink)
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Umm... Eh... I thought you said Jeff Jarrett vs Kurt Angle....

Shite. My bad.


Though other than... their first 2 matches I think, I'm not a fan of their matches either . Nothing close to Angle/Hardy in terms of shittyness though.

Also, fuck you . Said a couple of days ago that I am gonna stop talking about Angle. Bored of constantly posting the same old stuff explaining how shitty he is and why the majority of his matches are these days, so I'm done talking about the guy. From now on of course .
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Kobashi/Akiyama is an amazing match. 5 stars in my book. Fantastic!
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Old 09-04-2011, 02:16 PM   #496 (permalink)
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For me, Angle/Anderson and Angle/Jarrett are the best series of Angle in TNA with the Joe one.
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Old 09-04-2011, 03:02 PM   #497 (permalink)
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Though other than... their first 2 matches I think, I'm not a fan of their matches either . Nothing close to Angle/Hardy in terms of shittyness though.

Also, fuck you . Said a couple of days ago that I am gonna stop talking about Angle. Bored of constantly posting the same old stuff explaining how shitty he is and why the majority of his matches are these days, so I'm done talking about the guy. From now on of course .
Calling Angle shitty isn't cool. He was a brilliant wrestler, but he didn't know how to construct his matches well. If he could have the mind of someone like Bret Hart, who was brilliant at constructing matches, we would have a grade A wrestler on our hands.
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He's a shit pro wrestler. Pro wrestling is all about telling a story, and Angle is shit at it .
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For me, Angle/Anderson and Angle/Jarrett are the best series of Angle in TNA with the Joe one.
I think Angle vs Anderson is the best wrestling match in TNA. I mean it's really the only real good match that felt like actual wrestling. It was spotty, but well constructed. It's a great blow off in terms of a hero making the bad guy look like a jack ass.
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People with little clue in how to construct a match properly in my opinion are poor/shit pro wrestlers/workers.

Anways we may as well ditch the Angle talk, this thread is terrific and getting into repeated arguments over the same guy (sure Angle has been mentioned and discussed to death in this thread) will only lead to it getting bogged down with mindless bickering. In my shortime here I've come to accept that Kurt Angle discussions never go anywhere positive.
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