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Old 08-29-2011, 03:03 PM   #441 (permalink)
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As for Bret: I've really taken a more fonder appreciation to wrestlers who mix the ring work with mannerisms and facial expressions. My point about Arn was that he would try to act like a heel even with the most basic hold applied, i.e taunting the crowd or his opponent and trying to consistently work a crowd. Bret had his style down to a tee but I just don't get a kick out of watching guys like him almost wrestle like there isn't a crowd as opposed to wrestlers who try and work a crowd through their bumping, offence, comedy spots etc.
Your are correct in your criticisms of Hart, but in his defense, that was kinda his schtick.

As with any talent the promoter should attempt to play up the positives while downplaying the negatives. It's not that Bret was incapable of doing that type of thing, some of his work in the tag division comes to mind, when he was really heeling it up.
But the majority of his solo run, right up until WM13, was as a top face in the company. It wasn't his role to provoke the crowd but to demonstrate his concentration and hard work as the 'excellence of execution', nor could he take the comedy route as that would undermine the seriousness of the Hitman character. It was also a clever way to hide his weaknesses as he obviously lacked the charisma of a Hogan.

Bret was a 'wrestling' fan's wrestler and it was one of the reasons why the company didn't reach the heights it did with Hogan or Austin.
I personally love Bret Hart's work and he will forever be one of my favorites. However, your dislike of his approach is entirely valid and I would go so far as to say that a lot of fans would agree, as attendance numbers demonstrated.
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Old 08-31-2011, 11:54 AM   #442 (permalink)
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Just Updated my list. here it is! def gonna stop trippin off it haha


-Ric Flair(c) vs Sting,NWA Title,NWA Clash Of The Champions

-Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat(c), NWA World Title ,Judges At Ringside,NWA/WCW WrestleWar 1989

-Sting's Squadron vs Dangerous Alliance,War Games,WCW WrestleWar 1992

-Bret Hart(c) vs Davey Boy Smith, WWF Intercontinental Title, WWF Summerslam 1992

-Bret Hart vs Owen Hart, WWF WrestleMania X

-Razor Ramon(c) vs Shawn Michaels,WWF IC Title,Ladder Match,WWF WrestleMania X

-Chris Benoit vs Great Sasuke,Super J Cup Finals,NJPW Super J Cup 1994

-Bret Hart(c) vs Shawn Michaels,WWF Title,60 Minute Iron Man Match,WWF Wrestlemania 12

-Megumi Kudo vs Combat Toyoda,Deathmatch,FMW 5-5-1996

-Rey Mysterio vs Psychosis,WCW Bash At The Beach 1996

-Bret Hart vs Steve Austin,Submission Match,WWF Wrestlemania 13

-Shawn Michaels(c) vs The Undertaker,WWF Title,Hell In A Cell,WWF Badd Blood 1997

-Rey Mysterio vs Eddie Guerrero(c),WCW CW Title vs Mask,WCW Halloween Havoc 1997

-Rob Van Dam(c) vs Jerry Lynn,ECW TV Title,ECW Hardcore Heaven 1999

-Bret Hart vs Chris Benoit,WCW Nitro 10-4-1999

-Triple H(c) vs Cactus Jack,WWF Title,Street Fight,WWF Royal Rumble 2000

-Kurt Angle(c) vs The Rock vs The Undertaker vs Steve Austin vs Triple H vs Rikishi,WWF Title,Hell In A Cell,WWF Armageddon 2000

-Triple H vs Steve Austin,2/3 Falls,WWF No Way Out 2001

-Edge And Christain vs The Hardy Boyz vs The Dudley Boyz(c),WWF Tag Titles,TLC,WWF WrestleMania X-Seven

-The Rock(c) vs Steve Austin,WWF Title,NO DQ,WWF WrestleMania X-Seven

-Kurt Angle vs Shane Mcmahon,Street Fight,WWF King Of The Ring 2001

-Kurt Angle vs Steve Austin(c),WWF Title,WWF Unforgiven 2001

-AJ Styles vs Jerry Lynn vs Low Ki vs Psicosis,(first)TNA X Title,Double Elimination,NWA-TNA Weekly PPV #2

-Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker(c) vs The Rock,WWE Undisputed Title,WWE Vengeance 2002

-Shawn Michaels vs Triple H,Street Fight,WWE Summerslam 2002

-Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit vs Edge and Rey Mysterio,WWE Tag Titles(First),WWE No Mercy 2002

-Brock Lesnar(c) vs The Undertaker,WWE Title,Hell In A Cell,WWE No Mercy 2002

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Chris Benoit,WWE Title,WWE Royal Rumble 2003

-Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho,WWE WrestleMania XIX

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Brock Lesnar,WWE Title,Level Playing Field,WWE WrestleMania XIX

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Brock Lesnar,WWE Title,WWE Summerslam 2003

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Brock Lesnar,WWE Title,60 Minute Iron Man Match,WWE Smackdown 9-18-2003

-Kurt Angle vs Eddie Guerrero(c),WWE Title,WWE WrestleMania XX

-Triple H(c) vs Chris Benoit vs Shawn Michaels,WWE WHC,WWE WrestleMania XX

-Randy Orton(c) vs Cactus Jack,WWE IC Title,Hardcore Match,WWE Backlash 2004

-AMW vs XXX,Cage,Losers Must Disband,TNA Turning Point 2004

-AJ Styles vs Chris Sabin vs Petey Williams(c),TNA X Title,Ultimate X,TNA Final Resolution 2005

-AJ Styles(c) vs Christopher Daniels,TNA X Title,30 Minute Iron Man Match,TNA Against All Odds 2005

-Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels,WWE WrestleMania 21

-AJ Styles vs Matt Hardy,IWC 7-29-2005

-AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe vs Christopher Daniels(c),TNA X Title,TNA Unbreakable 2005

-Samoa Joe vs Kenta Kobashi,ROH Joe vs Kobashi

-Kurt Angle(c) vs The Undertaker,WWE WHC,WWE No Way Out 2006

-Blood Generation vs Do Fixer,ROH Supercard Of Honor 3-31-2006

-John Cena vs Shawn Michaels,WWE Raw 4-23-2007

-Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe vs Christain Cage vs ???,TNA World Title(First),KOM,TNA Slammiversary 2007

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Samoa Joe,TNA Title vs Career,Cage,TNA Lockdown 2008

-Kurt Angle vs Abyss,Falls Count Anywhere,TNA Turning Point 2008

-Kurt Angle vs Jeff Jarrett,NO DQ,TNA Genesis 2009

-Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels,WWE WrestleMania 25

-Kurt Angle vs Matt Morgan,TNA Bound For Glory 2009

-Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles(c),TNA Title,TNA Genesis 2010

-Kurt Angle vs Mr Anderson,Cage,Escape Only,TNA Lockdown 2010

-MCMG(c) vs Beer Money,2/3 Falls,TNA Tag Titles,TNA Whole F'N Show

-AJ Styles vs Bully Ray,Last Man Standing,TNA Slammiversary IX 2011

-Eddie Edwards(c) vs Davey Richards,ROH Title,ROH Best In The World 2011

-John Cena(c)vs CM Punk,WWE Title-WWE Money In The Bank 2011

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Old 08-31-2011, 12:35 PM   #443 (permalink)
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you forgot kurt angle vs. a beanbag

shawn vs. razor at WMX is a match that just doesn't hold up for me. i tried watching it a few months ago and couldn't even finish it. when it happened i thought it was the most amazing match ever and watched it over and over. anybody else watch it recently that still likes it?
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:36 PM   #444 (permalink)
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i gave that match ****1/2
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Old 08-31-2011, 01:00 PM   #445 (permalink)
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Five Stars to an Abyss match?, HOLY CRAP!
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:08 PM   #446 (permalink)
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Here is the final listing same as before


-Ric Flair(c) vs Sting,NWA Title,NWA Clash Of The Champions

-Ric Flair vs Ricky Steamboat(c), NWA World Title ,Judges At Ringside,NWA/WCW WrestleWar 1989

-Sting's Squadron vs Dangerous Alliance,War Games,WCW WrestleWar 1992

-Bret Hart(c) vs Davey Boy Smith, WWF Intercontinental Title, WWF Summerslam 1992

-Bret Hart vs Owen Hart, WWF WrestleMania X

-Razor Ramon(c) vs Shawn Michaels,WWF IC Title,Ladder Match,WWF WrestleMania X

-Wild Pegasus vs Great Sasuke,NJPW Super J Cup Finals 1994

-Bret Hart(c) vs Shawn Michaels,WWF Title,60 Minute Iron Man Match,WWF Wrestlemania 12

-Megumi Kudo vs Combat Toyoda,Deathmatch,FMW 5-5-1996

-Rey Mysterio vs Psychosis,WCW Bash At The Beach 1996

-Bret Hart vs Steve Austin,Submission Match,WWF Wrestlemania 13

-Shawn Michaels(c) vs The Undertaker,WWF Title,Hell In A Cell,WWF Badd Blood 1997

-Rey Mysterio vs Eddie Guerrero(c),WCW CW Title vs Mask,WCW Halloween Havoc 1997

-Rob Van Dam(c) vs Jerry Lynn,ECW TV Title,ECW Hardcore Heaven 1999

-Bret Hart vs Chris Benoit,WCW Nitro 10-4-1999

-Triple H(c) vs Cactus Jack,WWF Title,Street Fight,WWF Royal Rumble 2000

-Kurt Angle(c) vs The Rock vs Steve Austin vs The Undertaker vs Triple H vs Rikishi,WWF Title,Hell In A Cell-WWF Armageddon 2000

-Triple H vs Steve Austin,2/3 Falls,WWF No Way Out 2001

-Edge And Christain vs The Hardy Boyz vs The Dudley Boyz(c),WWF Tag Titles,TLC,WWF WrestleMania X-Seven

-The Rock(c) vs Steve Austin,WWF Title,NO DQ,WWF WrestleMania X-Seven

-Kurt Angle vs Shane Mcmahon,Street Fight,WWF King Of The Ring 2001

-Kurt Angle vs Steve Austin(c),WWF Title,WWF Unforgiven 2001

-AJ Styles vs Jerry Lynn vs Low Ki vs Psicosis,(first)TNA X Title,Double Elimination,NWA-TNA Weekly PPV #2

-Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker(c) vs The Rock,WWE Undisputed Title,WWE Vengeance 2002

-Shawn Michaels vs Triple H,Street Fight,WWE Summerslam 2002

-Kurt Angle and Chris Benoit vs Edge and Rey Mysterio,WWE Tag Titles(First),WWE No Mercy 2002

-Brock Lesnar(c) vs The Undertaker,WWE Title,Hell In A Cell,WWE No Mercy 2002

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Chris Benoit,WWE Title,WWE Royal Rumble 2003

-Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho,WWE WrestleMania XIX

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Brock Lesnar,WWE Title,Level Playing Field,WWE WrestleMania XIX

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Brock Lesnar,WWE Title,WWE Summerslam 2003

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Brock Lesnar,WWE Title,60 Minute Iron Man Match,WWE Smackdown 9-18-2003

-Kurt Angle vs Eddie Guerrero(c),WWE Title,WWE WrestleMania XX

-Triple H(c) vs Chris Benoit vs Shawn Michaels,WWE WHC,WWE WrestleMania XX

-Randy Orton(c) vs Cactus Jack,WWE IC Title,Hardcore Match,WWE Backlash 2004

-AMW vs XXX,Cage,Losers Must Disband,TNA Turning Point 2004

-AJ Styles vs Chris Sabin vs Petey Williams(c),TNA X Title,Ultimate X,TNA Final Resolution 2005

-AJ Styles(c) vs Christopher Daniels,TNA X Title,30 Minute Iron Man Match,TNA Against All Odds 2005

-Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels,WWE WrestleMania 21

-AJ Styles vs Matt Hardy,IWC 7-29-2005

-AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe vs Christopher Daniels(c),TNA X Title,TNA Unbreakable 2005

-Samoa Joe vs Kenta Kobashi,ROH Joe vs Kobashi

-Kurt Angle(c) vs The Undertaker,WWE WHC,WWE No Way Out 2006

-Blood Generation vs Do Fixer,ROH Supercard Of Honor 3-31-2006

-John Cena vs Shawn Michaels,WWE Raw 4-23-2007

-Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe vs Christain Cage vs ???,TNA World Title(First),KOM,TNA Slammiversary 2007

-Kurt Angle(c) vs Samoa Joe,TNA Title vs Career,Cage,TNA Lockdown 2008

-Kurt Angle vs Abyss,Falls Count Anywhere,TNA Turning Point 2008

-Kurt Angle vs Jeff Jarrett,NO DQ,TNA Genesis 2009

-Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels,WWE WrestleMania 25

-Kurt Angle vs Matt Morgan,TNA Bound For Glory 2009

-Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles(c),TNA Title,TNA Genesis 2010

-Kurt Angle vs Mr Anderson,Cage,Escape Only,TNA Lockdown 2010

-MCMG(c) vs Beer Money,2/3 Falls,TNA Tag Titles,TNA Whole F'N Show

-AJ Styles vs Bully Ray,Last Man Standing,TNA Slammiversary IX 2011

-Eddie Edwards(c) vs Davey Richards,ROH Title,ROH Best In The World 2011

-John Cena(c)vs CM Punk,WWE Title-WWE Money In The Bank 2011

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Old 08-31-2011, 08:45 PM   #447 (permalink)
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so nice, had to post it twice
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:14 AM   #448 (permalink)
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Why have posted the same list?
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Old 09-01-2011, 06:30 AM   #449 (permalink)
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Time to add Flair/Steamboat 2/3 falls to mah list.

I've decided to strict things up on my list as I've seemed to let any great match get the 5 star award. Some matches that I wasn't too into have been removed (Sorry, Kawada vs Misawa '94) but may be re-added after a future watch.

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Old 09-01-2011, 08:21 AM   #450 (permalink)
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No Kobashi/Sasaki from NOAH?
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