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post #341 of 1431 (permalink) Old 08-22-2011, 11:43 AM
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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

Here's my take on those two matches.

WrestleMania 12: Iron Man Match
Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels
It had it's moments, but for the most of the match it was dull. The fans showed their disapproval and some even left. It's still a good match, but to much of it was the two guys resting and preparing for next sequence of moves.

King of the Ring 1998: Hell in a Cell
Undertaker vs Mankind
I orignally had this at 5 stars, but after skimming though it again, I relized most of the match was Foley being on a strecter. It's an epic bout first time you see, but watch it again and you will get bored and it effects the later parts of the match.
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Terry Funk did get Chokeslammed out of his shoes in the HIAC, that might raise it up to **** just because Terry Funk was involved. The Funker makes everything better.
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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

It's matches like Taker/Foley HIAC and Rock/Hogan WM18 that kind of turn me off of ratings at times. I just can't properly rate those but I know how awesome and significant they are and I could easily re-watch those matches over some matches that are considered technical clinics.


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post #344 of 1431 (permalink) Old 08-22-2011, 01:01 PM
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The ironman match is dull as fuck. I don't give a shit about the historical significance if the match sucks.
Pretty much this. The first time I watched I just wanted it to end and years later (after watching tons of 60 minute matches) I watched it again and still couldn't get into the match.

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I have the Foley/Taker HiaC match at **, one for each Foley Bump. Come at me Bro's.
A lot of us have already told you that the match has way more stuff than Foley's 2 big bumps but your senile 27 year old ass doesn't seem to understand that

It's not a 5 star match, but it has a lot more than just 2 big spots..and who gives a crap about snowflakes anyway.

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It does have way more stuff, but none of it interested me. Aside from the two big spots it just felt like any old Attitude Era RAW match to me.

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I've never posted in this thread before because I don't rate matches by a star system. I tend to just know what I like. Sometimes mistakes even add to the overall enjoyment of a particular battle, thus in the eyes of another it may be deemed as flawed while to me it was thoroughly amazing.

So instead I will list matches I really care for. Whether they are 'perfect' or not is debatable, but I'm able to watch them over and over again.

LA Park vs Mesias @ Triplemania XIX - Not one of my 'goats' but it was my favorite match so far in 2011. Yes, I know I'm the only one. I was grinning from ear to ear as I watched my 'boy' Park repeatedly attempt to use something attached to his wristband to bust open his own forehead. This match was just fun with tonnes of 'spots', great action, great drama and great wrestling. Park and Mesias are both consistently putting on fantastic matches with any opponent.

HBK vs Razor @ WMX - This is without a doubt my all-time favorite match. I still watch it at least once or twice a year and it holds up to anything that has been produced since. I've heard interviews where it's been said that Michaels had a match with a ladder but that's bs. Hall was a great hand and made Shawn look like gold for the duration.

Flair vs Funk @ Clash of the Champions IX - If I were only ever allowed to watch one 'I Quit' match for the rest of my life, this would be the one. Two masters doing what they do best. Both are great at taking and dishing out a beating.

Superfly vs Murocco: Steel Cage Match - This was the moment that made me a life long fan. There was no turning back after watching Snuka dive off of that cage. The actual match was short but absolutely vicious.

Steamboat vs Savage @ WM3 - No greatest match list would be complete without it. This is about as close to a 'perfect' contest as anyone in history will ever come. RIP Randy Savage.

That's five. There a tonne of others, many I've already seen mentioned in this thread ie. Benoit/Angle, Kobashi/Misawa, Hart/Austin.

Oh, and I'd like to give an honourable mention to the Sgt. Slaughter vs Pat Patterson Alley Fight. Hardcore before there was hardcore.

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Terry Funk vs. Sabu 8/9/97 ECW
I'm not one to like gblood baths with senseless weapon spots such as the stuff seen in CZW but in this case forget Malenko vs. Guerrero. This was the best match ECW ever had. It was entertaining as hell from start to finish. Great story telling. Best Sabu match ever and best hardcore based match ever done in pro wrestling history.
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post #348 of 1431 (permalink) Old 08-23-2011, 07:43 PM
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Funk/Sabu was pretty amazing.

My updated list...

Misawa/Kobashi v Kawada/Taue (AJPW 9/6/95)
Misawa/Kobashi v Kawada/Taue (AJPW 12/3/93)
Misawa v Jumbo (AJPW 1/9/90)
Misawa v Kawada (AJPW 3/6/94)
Kobashi/Kikuchi vs Kroffat/Furnas (AJPW 25/5/92)
Misawa v Taue (AJPW CC Final 95)

Bret Hart v Steve Austin (Wrestlemania 13)
The Rock v Steve Austin (Wrestlemania 17)
Shawn Michaels v Chris Jericho (Wrestlemania 19)
HHH v Shawn Michaels v Chris Benoit (Wrestlemania 20)

Danielson/Black v American Wolves (ROH Tag Title Classic)
Joe v Punk II (ROH Joe v Punk II)
Low Ki vs KENTA (ROH Final Battle 2005)
Joe v Kobashi (ROH Joe v Kobashi)
Danielson v KENTA (ROH Driven 2007)
Kevin Steen v El Generico (ROH Final Battle 2010)

Kobashi v Akiyama (NOAH 10/7/04)
Kobashi v Takayama (NOAH 2004)

They are the matches that I pretty much consider to be the best of all time, or my favorite matches if you like.
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Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat - The 1989 Trilogy. Fantastic matches, absolutely fantastic.
Ric Flair vs. Sting - Clash of the Champions I
Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk - Clash of the Champions IX
The Four Horsemen (Ric Flair, Barry Windham, Sid Vicious) & Larry Zbyszko vs. Sting, Rick Steiner, Scott Steiner & Brian Pillman - WrestleWar 1991 - War Games
Ric Flair vs. Vader - Starrcade 1993
Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio - Halloween Havoc 1997
Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart - WrestleMania XIII

Honorable Mentions:

Ric Flair vs. Triple H - Taboo Tuesday 2005; Steel Cage
Ric Flair vs. Triple H - Survivor Series 2005 - Technically, not a masterpiece but Jesus, it was brutal and fucking awesome.
Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker - WrestleMania 25
Christian vs. Randy Orton - Over The Limit 2011

Yeah, a lot of Ric Flair matches but I guess that just shows how good he is.
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post #350 of 1431 (permalink) Old 08-23-2011, 08:11 PM
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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

May as well add mine, some matches could probably do with a rewatch though:


Slaughter vs Sheik MSG, BootCamp Match 1984
Hart vs Austin WM 13
HBK vs Taker HIAC 1997

NWA/Mid South:

Flair vs Steamboat Chi Town 1989
Flair vs Steamboat COTC 1989
Flair vs Windham BOTB II
Windham vs Murdoch UWF 11/7/1987
Steamboat/Youngblood vs Kernodle/Slaughter, Final Conflict, Steel Cage 1983


Jerry Lawler vs Bill Dundee, Loser Leaves Town 30/12/85


El Satanico vs Gran Cochisse 1984
Blue Panther vs Atlantis 1991
Damiancito El Guerrero vs Cicloncito Ramirez 1997
Bracito De Oro/Cicloncito Ramirez/Mascarita Magica vs Damiancito El Guerrero/El Fierito/Pierrothito, 1997


NJPW Gauntlet 5/1/86
Misawa vs Jumbo Rematch
Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada vs Jumbo/Taue/Fuchi 20/4/91
Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada vs Jumbo/Taue/Fuchi 22/5/92
Misawa & Kobashi vs Taue & Kawada 3/12/1993
Misawa vs Kawada 6/3/94
Misawa & Kobashi vs Kawada & Taue 6/9/95
Carl Greco vs Yuki Ishikawa BattlARTS 2008
Volk Han vs Tamura RINGS 22/1/1997


Danielson vs McGuinness Unified
Danielson vs Morishima FWH Final Battle 2008

Got numerous matches on the brink of *****, Benoit vs Austin Edmonton 2001, Flair vs Wahoo McDaniel 2/3 Falls 85, Flair vs Windham Hawaii 10/12/85, Dandy vs Casas 1992, Funk vs Flair GAB 1989, Magnum TA vs Tully Blanchard 1985, Tully Blanchard vs Ron Garvin 5/3/86, Danielson vs Strong Vendetta, Punk vs Joe II, Cena vs HBK Mania 23, Danielson vs Nigel 6th Anniversary Show, Eddie vs Rey 23/6/2005, Kawada vs Hansen 2/28/93, Kobashi vs Misawa 20/1/1997, El Hijo Del Santo vs Blue Panther Monterrey 2000, Dory & Terry Funk vs Hansen & Gordy and quite a lot of others I've forgotten.

MS-1 vs Sangre Chicana 1983 may be the next one on my list, going to rewatch in the near future and am expecting to love it even more than last time.

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