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Old 10-07-2012, 01:31 PM   #1261 (permalink)
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I don't think it's as good as Hansen/Kawada from '93, either. And I like Hansen/Andre more than it, too. But yeah, it's a fucking great match and probably the second best Kobashi match ever behind the 1/20/97 Misawa match.

Watch Tenryu/Yatsu if you haven't already, btw.
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Re-watched Angle/Undertaker/Rock from vengeance 02 the other day. Still one of my favourite matches, but I didn't like it nearly as much as before. No longer ***** .

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Old 10-07-2012, 03:12 PM   #1263 (permalink)
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Watched Hansen/Kobashi. Ever since I first watched I thought one of two things - either this match was overrated, or it was me. It was definitely me. I don't think this is five stars, the 93 match of the year or even still as good as Hansen/Kawada, but I don't know what I missed the first time. Just a mind-blowing match; has to be the best Kobashi singles behind 1/20/97 right? Anything I'm forgetting? #2 singles for Hansen behind Kawada 2/28/93 I'm thinking, too. The finish gave me goosebumps.
The one with the Northern Lariat off the turnbuckle? Yeah, amazing fucking match, in my top 5 for 90's AJPW probably (maybe). Definitely behind 1/20/97 Misawa match, but I can't think of another better Kobashi singles match.

Kawada/Tenryu '00 is the latest 5* match I've seen. Just beautiful.
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Rewatched Funk vs Flair, I Quit match. I think this is my best viewing of it, was never a big fan of the match, but I was digging it today.
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:42 PM   #1265 (permalink)
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I don't think it's as good as Hansen/Kawada from '93, either. And I like Hansen/Andre more than it, too. But yeah, it's a fucking great match and probably the second best Kobashi match ever behind the 1/20/97 Misawa match.

Watch Tenryu/Yatsu if you haven't already, btw.
I definitely like Hansen/Andre more personally, but that's probably one of my five favourite matches ever and I don't think I'd say it's better.

Which Schneider Comp is Tenryu/Yatsu on? Don't think I have it.

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That might be the single greatest strike Hansen threw in his entire career, well that or the absolutely FILTHY forearm/slap strike he throws at Tenryu on the floor in the famous 'nobody potatoes me' All Japan match.

Agree with the consensus, Kobashi/Misawa 1/20/97 is Kobashi's best singles match, but that Hansen match, Takayama in NOAH 2004, Akiyama in NOAH 12/23/00 and maybe one of the Dr Death matches would round out his top 5. Actually the Honda NOAH 2003 match could sneak into the top 5 as well.

Kawada/Hansen is better though, just the ultimate meeting of uncontained stiff violence vs uncontained stiff violence.

Think Tenryu/Yatsu was the first match I actually reviewed in the Puro thread, adored it to bits and its definitely one of the more violent Tenryu matches I can recall seeing (which says an awful lot given its Tenryu and 'violence').
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Old 10-07-2012, 06:01 PM   #1267 (permalink)
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Kobashi's 5 best singles is something neato to think about. I'd probably agree with WOOLCOCK's top 5, but I think I watched only one Kobashi/Williams years ago and I don't think it was their supposed best one (8/31/93). I'm nearly up to that on the 93 yearbook (which you'd know if I wasn't a Lazy Writes-Nothing jackass), and I have good hopes for it after the match with Hansen. Any other Misawa matches that'd make his top five? 3/31/96 is probably their second best match together, but I didn't *love it* love it (you know?) and didn't think it was even as good as Kawada/Taue from the same night. Their 98, 99, and 03 matches I don't even think come within a galaxy of 1/20/97. Not even in the same dimension.

Anything else? Maybe 6/12/98 v Kawada?
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Tbh a lot of their matches which aren't the most famous sort of blend together so its hard to think off the top of my head. I remember thinking the October 98 match (10/31?) was a clear step and a half below their 1/20/97 match, and the remaining end of the decade matches didn't come close to improving their 1997 masterpiece. GHC NOAH 2003 match is one of their weaker matches to me, just something I find to be too excessive in terms of the Puro Main Event style. I do recall really digging one of their Champions Carnival matches, I might be mistaking it but one that spings to mind is a 30 minute draw which ultimately leads to Kawada winning the tournament due to the Misawa/Kobashi draw basically fucking up their stamina. It might not be the match I recall thinking was super nifty, but that's the only one that springs to mind.

Kobashi/Takayama 5/26/00 also needs some loving. Feels like a lesser version of their 2004 match in terms of spectacle and atmosphere, largely because its Takayama's coming out party whereas by 04 he's a monster and reveared throughout Japan. At one point I found it a better match than the 04 encounter in terms of the sum of its parts (think Kobashi's arm selling was more succint here than in the 04 one) but I'll probably rewatch both in order to reassess that view when it comes to the BOTD poll.

Kawada/Kobashi is a really dark area for me, only their broadway 95 match is something I have a proper recollection of. Would rank it far lower than a lot of the big singles bouts from that era, but as far as 60 minute draws go I've seen a lot worse. Still I find Kobashi/Kawada to be a far better pairing when they go for shorter but more impactful matches rather than 30 minute plus matches.

Might actually try and watch that 96 Misawa match soon, be interesting to try and watch a match or two of theirs which I've forgotten/struggle to remember much about.

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Old 10-08-2012, 03:00 AM   #1269 (permalink)
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:40 AM   #1270 (permalink)
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Top 5 Kobashi singles matches is pretty hard I think when you get past the Misawa and Hansen matches. Probably be something like...

vs Misawa 1/20/97
vs Hansen 8/15/93
vs Kawada 6/12/98 (can't remember a lot about this, but I remember thinking it was brilliant)
vs Akiyama 7/10/04
vs Takayama 4/25/04

Not a huge fan of the Kobashi/Williams matches I've seen, although I'm not sure if I've seen their supposed best match together. I have seen the one were Kobashi almost gets fucking killed with a couple backdrop drivers at the end if that's the one, and I thought it was alright but nothing amazing. I know the Akiyama match might be an unpopular choice, pretty sure everyone knows I love that match by now lol.

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