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**Cactus** · 07-29-2011, 06:16 AM

I watched Misawa vs Kawada and Michaels vs 'Taker HiaC last night...

My thoughts:

Misawa vs Kawada
While I loved this match, GOAT is a bit of a stretch (Kobashi vs Misawa from '03 gets that from me). It was a 5 star classic and I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to get into puro. The strike sequence at the end was epic.

Michaels vs 'Taker
I saw people calling this the GOAT as well. I really don't see why. They match at 'Mania 25 was better. Don't get me wrong, it's a brilliant match, much better their 'Mania 26 encounter, but I wouldn't go 5 star. Maybe ****1/2.

Both matches recommended though.

R.Scorpio · 07-29-2011, 06:22 AM

I personally thought HBK/Taker at WM 26 was better by a long way. I had it ****1/2 in comparison to WM 25 i had it at ****. Needless to see after i watched the WM 25 match and came on the net my mind was blown when i saw so many people go 5 stars.

**Cactus** · 07-29-2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by R.Scorpio

I personally thought HBK/Taker at WM 26 was better by a long way. I had it ****1/2 in comparison to WM 25 i had it at ****. Needless to see after i watched the WM 25 match and came on the net my mind was blown when i saw so many people go 5 stars.

The first 10-15 minutes of their 'Mania 26 was perfect and could of easily topped 'Mania 25 if they didn't turn the match into a complete finisher-fest. That kinda ruined it from being 5 stars to me.

WM25: *****
WM26: ****1/4

R.Scorpio · 07-29-2011, 06:45 AM

You didnt think WM 25 was a finisher fest? It was more of a finisher fest than WM 26. And the thing i hated most about WM 25 match was the lopsided finisher count. Taker would hit 3 major moves before HBK would hit one making HBK's nearfall pointless and ineffective. And then Taker would again dominate before HBK would hit the superkick again making that nearfall pointless. At least thats how i felt.

**Cactus** · 07-29-2011, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by R.Scorpio

You didnt think WM 25 was a finisher fest? It was more of a finisher fest than WM 26. And the thing i hated most about WM 25 match was the lopsided finisher count. Taker would hit 3 major moves before HBK would hit one making HBK's nearfall pointless and ineffective. And then Taker would again dominate before HBK would hit the superkick again making that nearfall pointless. At least thats how i felt.

Yeah. But what I remembered of 26, they wouldn't hit a finisher, get back up, hit and different one, repeat until the leaping Tombstone.

25 had some innovative spots to line up for the finisher, like the moonsault to Tombstone counter.

In all fairness, it's been a year since I watch the 25 match, and this was before I got into the rating shit. I'll give it a re watch some when and see if I feel the same. I just remember watching 26 and thinking 'All the hype for that?,' (I didn't watch 25 first, wasn't a fan at the time, I just heard the hype about it) and then I watch 25 and was blown away.

enlightenedone9 · 07-29-2011, 07:21 AM

I need to start watching some of these matches pronto. I feel so deprived.

Jbardo · 07-29-2011, 07:57 AM

WWF/E

Bret Hart v Steve Austin - Survivor Series 1996
Bret Hart v Steve Austin - Wrestlemania 13
Bret Hart v Owen Hart - Wrestlemania 10
Shawn Michaels v Kurt Angle - Wrestlemania 21
Shawn Michaels v Undertaker - Wrestlemania 25
Chris Benoit v Shawn Michaels v HHH
HHH v Cactus Jack - Royal Rumble 2000
HHH v Steve Austin - No Way out 2001

Others

Kawada v Misawa 6/94
Kawada & Taue v Misawa & Kobashi 9/95(i think)
Danielson v Kenta - Glory 2006
Eddie Guerrero v Rey Mysterio - Halloween Havoc 1997
Jushin Liger v El Samurai - 1992
Jushin Liger v Great Sasuke - Super J Cup 1994
Chris Benoit v Great Sasuke - Super J Cup 1994

Jbardo · 07-29-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by topper1

Ditch believes it's in the bottom half between the two teams lol.

6/9/95 is commenly considered the best between the two teams and in a lot of people's mind the best match ever.

Watched this a few weeks ago, easily the best tag match i have ever seen.

**Ethan619** · 07-29-2011, 08:20 AM

Still have ALOT of matches to watch but my 5 star list currently looks like this

Triple H vs. ‘Stone Cold’ Steve Austin (3 Stages of Hell) (No Way Out 2001)
Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle (Wrestlemania 21)
Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker (Wrestlemania 25)
Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker (Hell in a Cell) (Bad Blood 1997)

Haven't seen the 3 stages of Hell match in a few years and the other 3 only just make the rating for me and could possibly go down to ****3/4 on a rewatch. Once again still have ALOT of matches to watch!!

**Bubz** · 07-29-2011, 10:23 AM

My updated list. Oh and it's Day/Month/Year just for you McQueen

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Misawa/Kobashi v Kawada/Taue (AJPW 9/6/95)
Misawa v Jumbo (AJPW 1/9/90)
Danielson/Black v American Wolves (ROH Tag Title Classic)
Misawa v Kawada (AJPW 3/6/94)
Bret vs Austin (WWE Wrestlemania 13)
Joe v Punk II (ROH Joe v Punk II)
Joe v Kobashi (ROH Joe v Kobashi)
Danielson v KENTA (ROH Driven 2007)
The Rock v Austin (WWE Wrestlemania 17)
Michaels v Jericho (WWE Wrestlemania 19)
Michaels v The Undertaker (WWE Wrestlemania 26)
HHH v Michaels v Benoit (WWE Wrestlemania 20)

Maybe on the list if I rewatch them...

Misawa v Kobashi (AJPW 97)
Danielson v Nigel (ROH Unified)
Danielson vs KENTA (ROH GBH V Night 2)
Austin v HHH (WWE No Way Out 2001)
Michaels v Angle (WWE Wrestlemania 21)
Michaels v Flair (WWE Wrestlemania 24)
Black v Richards (ROH DBD VIII)
Maybe on the list if I watched again...