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post #1071 of 1407 (permalink) Old 04-14-2012, 11:52 AM
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I really want to watch Aries and Nigel Guinness 12/29/06 I believe? BUT I can never find a d/l link!! HELP!! I've watched every 5 star and 4 star 3/4 match in ROH history except this one
i actually have that up on my YT channel . just watched this two nights ago and it is incredible. i don't think this is the best ROH match ever but it's probably the one i've watched the most (at least > 10 times).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCvtbNdoW3Q
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Change that soon, its one of the best pure storytelling matches the company has put on. And it wasn't like HHH/Taker where they tried to make it 'THE MOST DRAMATIC MATCH TO END ALL MATCHES'. It was natural and was told through the character dynamics, Shawn's performance is terrific and the fact its the debut of the Cell makes all the violence feel fresh and horrifying. Its not as brutal as say Lesnar/Taker or Batista/HHH, but in some ways HBK feels like a lamb about to be slaughtered and they capture that theme perfectly throughout the match. Hell you actually start to feel some remorse for the asshole.
fuck having remorse for the Has Been Kid.

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I said *some*, I still mark like a little kid when Taker whales him with the chair shot
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I said *some*, I still mark like a little kid when Taker whales him with the chair shot
Amazing chair shot
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Re: Your 5 Star Match Lists

Thanks everyone for responding to my "Shelley" question.

I've seen both quoted MCMG matches, but for some reason I loved bit more their match against Kings of Wrestlong, although it really doesn't have ending (it was brilliant how Shelley countered Heroe's huge elbows with quick rapid fire of his own), and their match against Steenerico.

Absolutely loved his one on one match against Hero in PWG as well. Must say that I most love Shelley while portreting dominated guy who is capable of winning a match in an instance with something unexpected and "out of his sleeve".
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I remember Shelley having an awesome match with Punk in ROH. Can't remember when, it was back in 2004/05.
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It was me that sent the PM. Great post. You sir, are my hero.
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I'm adding HBK/HHH from Summerslam 02 to my list. Incredible match. I hadn't watched it since it happened, it's just beautiful storytelling effectively mixed in with awesome spots and so much fun as well. One of my favorite matches ever probably.
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Can't say I'm the biggest fan of HHH/HBK Summerslam 2002 after the last watch. Main issue I have is how the first half and second half are just so disjointed in regards to the story, first half has HHH employing a meticulous workover of the back and the theme being 'does HBK still 'it' or is washed up and over the hill?'. Then somewhere in the second half they're using ladders and tables and its an all out brawl and HBK goes from being this underdog striving to prove he is still the better man into a psycho trying to murder HHH.

I dunno, it felt like the beginning and end of a feud in one match. The first half established a clear comeback story and had you invested on whether HBK could win against a guy claiming to have surpassed him, the post match sledgehammer assault would be the perfect set up for a rematch down the line in which they pulled out the ladders, tables and brawling element. As two separate matches they could been very good but I just wasn't feeling the combination into 1 match. I understand HHH smashing HBK's face into the glass gives a reason for the match to be heated, but I'd have rather they did a match entirely based around brawling, or didn't run that angle and instead built it as a singles match based around HBK trying to prove to the world he wasn't over the hill.

The nip up spot is also something I can totally see annoying people who adore limbwork and don't like when its ends up being pointless down the finishing stretch, ironically enough I didn't hate it nearly as much here as I bought it as HBK fighting through the pain and self doubt to once again channel his inner magic and win one of the most important matches in his life. It doesn't make me love the match any more (since the blowoff of the earlier work does irk me) but I can at least find a compelling reason for the spot instead of some other matches where the nip up spot has really taken me out of a match (see the Jericho Wrestlemania 19 match).
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