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Old 04-04-2011, 03:39 PM   #501 (permalink)
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We can all agree that nothing's better in current wrestling than IWRG.

That's what this thread needs more of. More lucha. And Dick Togo.
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:45 PM   #502 (permalink)
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Del Rio/Edge ***

Rhodes/Mysterio ***1/2
Mysterio does not get enough credit. The internet backlash is stupid as he always puts in a ton of effort and is an effective storyteller. Loved this match.

Orton/Punk ***1/4

HHH/Undertaker ****1/4
My initial rating was ***1/2. I rewatched it a day later and enjoyed it a lot more. They started really fast with a lot of huge moves. Now I know there will be those that say it was a finisher fest and that certainly fits... but they can get away with it. Two indy guys would get booed out of the building but because Undertaker has the most prized possession (the streak) and HHH brought his A-game, this was fantastic because of the drama and crowd reactions. Not even close to a match of the year (or Taker's matches with Michaels) but a worthy match for the big stage. They lived up to my high expectations.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:30 PM   #503 (permalink)
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Triple H didn't spend the course of last year embarrassing himself by wrestling with a t-shirt on either.
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Sure, you got a couple people to agree with you, but news flash, you're still in the minority.
Intelligent people tend to be a minority. In this case it isn't even a great minority. Plenty of people, in plenty of places, have said that it wasn't a near perfect match.

Anyway, what tends to happen on message boards (especially in threads like these) is that someone posts an opinion (in this case some asterisks) and then the first people to read it go "...shit...shit...I won't be cool unless I make my opinion similar to theirs...". This goes on for a while. Then the first person who has the balls to call bullshit gets abuse, until the cavalry turn up.

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I still don't understand comments like, "I might have to stop visiting this thread if you people think Triple H/Taker was that good". It's just elitist bullshit. No reason to go and try to run down people's opinions for the last few pages because they liked something you didn't.
I didn't say I didn't like it. I said that these pesky kids don't know what a fivestar match is and we'll never see another one again if people continue to accept above average matches.

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I was once like you, too entrenched in ROH too see anything else beyond it. Maybe you'll wake up one day and not hold everything to the same standard as the 'almighty' ROH. Just too much of a critic to be a fan.
No, if I'm in a thread that's designed for the purpose of critiquing matches then I'll criticise, like everyone else. Regardless of that, Taker vs. HHH wasn't a near 5* match, either in a critical sense or a mindless fun sense. You're not going to get anywhere by saying "STOP THINKING! JUST BE A FAN! SOAPBOX!".

I'm definitely not "entrenched in ROH". I've already clearly shown that to be rubbish, in previous posts on this subject.
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:35 PM   #504 (permalink)
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Undertaker vs. Triple H - No Holds Barred - ****
Better then I thought it would be considering the way Taker looked before his latest break but I didn't think it was nearly as good as either of the Taker/HBK matches. Understand why they were throwing bombs at each other early but thought the early portion was slow and didn't really have a story. Did buy Hunter winning after the tombstone and while cheesy Hunter grabbing and then dropping the sledgehammer before tapping was great.

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Briscoes vs. Adam Cole & Kyle O'Reilly - ***3/4
Kings of Wrestling vs. Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team - ROH World Tag Team Titles - ****
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Man, I must have been gone a long time because when I used to post in this section, SCTIII did not have a prem membership and was a total noob. Whatever happened to those days? I remember him giggling like a schoolgirl over the same stuff we did. Now he's a bitter old man. Bitter...bitter old man.

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Old 04-04-2011, 05:01 PM   #506 (permalink)
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Taker vs HHH was incredible, waaaaayyy better than expected. Personally, I don't give two fucks about how you create drama and believable nearfalls, as long as you do it and have the crowd going apeshit, I'm going to be a fan of the match.

I still put the Big Japan vs All Japan 3/21 tag over the Mania match (i'm probably going to be the only one, lol) but it was still amazing.
Nah I definitely would. Didn't think Taker/Trips was bad, it was had a great big Mania match feel about it but it dragged a lot and the way they did the finisher kickouts bothered me more than anything. For example was it necessary for Trips to go straight into the cover and hook the leg off each pedigree? Was a good match but not MOTYC material. Cody/Rey was the best match on the show I thought. Hopefully the DGUSA iPPV has some matches better than just really good and are somewhat memorable. Mania definitely didn't imo and the 2 ROH iPPVs had a couple of really good matches but nothing great that I'd recommend people make time to see.
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Old 04-04-2011, 05:02 PM   #507 (permalink)
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Anyway, what tends to happen on message boards (especially in threads like these) is that someone posts an opinion (in this case some asterisks) and then the first people to read it go "...shit...shit...I won't be cool unless I make my opinion similar to theirs...". This goes on for a while. Then the first person who has the balls to call bullshit gets abuse, until the cavalry turn up.
I agree with this. I'm always afraid after a big match happens that we're going to see a crap load of high ratings here. It always starts off with one high rating and snowballs. Then again, I think I rate everything a lot lower than most people do here.

I think it can also work the other way around as well though. Lets say if a bunch of people see a match, and rate it very high, and someone sees this and thinks to themselves that isn't possible, and then watch the match afterwards, then we have them rating the match very low. I'm not saying you did this since I don't even know what you'd rate it, but it seems like others have done this before.

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I didn't say I didn't like it. I said that these pesky kids don't know what a fivestar match is and we'll never see another one again if people continue to accept above average matches.
I don't think anyone has given it the full 5 stars here though...?
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Old 04-04-2011, 06:36 PM   #508 (permalink)
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Man, I must have been gone a long time because when I used to post in this section, SCTIII did not have a prem membership and was a total noob. Whatever happened to those days? I remember him giggling like a schoolgirl over the same stuff we did. Now he's a bitter old man. Bitter...bitter old man.
Hahaha. I remember you talking about how much you hated ROH and then coming sneaking back into the ROH fanclub, quietly.

I definitely wouldn't have giggled like a schoolgirl over anything at this WM, not within the past 10 years of my life. Nor would you, I'm sure.
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I seriously just reached out for the popcorn while reading through this thread. It was disappointing to realize there was nothing there.
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Old 04-04-2011, 07:45 PM   #510 (permalink)
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Man, i don't even have an opinion.
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