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Old 02-08-2012, 10:13 PM   #3181 (permalink)
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Jeez, it really is too bad I hate wrestling, right now, or I would help Jawbreaker shut down these people who clearly have no clue how to defend their positions properly without resorting to 'I'm entitled to my undefended opinion.'

Luckily, people considering that garbage like Richards/Edwards is a great match, and pretending botches in Punk/Cena didn't happen are the exact reason I'm not tuning in anymore.

Keep up the good fight, Jaws. sorry to abandon you. You really are the only one left on this board who demands any quality from their wrestling, anymore.
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:02 PM   #3182 (permalink)
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A serious contender for match of the year, and no, I'm not joking

Jerry Lawler/Dr. Tim Linder vs Bill Dundee/Dr. Brian McCarver - 3/4/11

Part 1:
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Old 02-08-2012, 11:24 PM   #3183 (permalink)
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Jeez, it really is too bad I hate wrestling, right now, or I would help Jawbreaker shut down these people who clearly have no clue how to defend their positions properly without resorting to 'I'm entitled to my undefended opinion.'

Luckily, people considering that garbage like Richards/Edwards is a great match, and pretending botches in Punk/Cena didn't happen are the exact reason I'm not tuning in anymore.

Keep up the good fight, Jaws. sorry to abandon you. You really are the only one left on this board who demands any quality from their wrestling, anymore.


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Old 02-09-2012, 12:01 AM   #3184 (permalink)
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Jeez, it really is too bad I hate wrestling, right now, or I would help Jawbreaker shut down these people who clearly have no clue how to defend their positions properly without resorting to 'I'm entitled to my undefended opinion.'

Luckily, people considering that garbage like Richards/Edwards is a great match, and pretending botches in Punk/Cena didn't happen are the exact reason I'm not tuning in anymore.

Keep up the good fight, Jaws. sorry to abandon you. You really are the only one left on this board who demands any quality from their wrestling, anymore.
lol he blindly defends Strong/Edwards the exact same way he's criticizing people for defending Strong/Richards. I mean, there's being an elitist douchebag, then there's being a walking contradiction...
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Old 02-09-2012, 02:49 AM   #3185 (permalink)
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Jeez, it really is too bad I hate wrestling, right now, or I would help Jawbreaker shut down these people who clearly have no clue how to defend their positions properly without resorting to 'I'm entitled to my undefended opinion.'

Luckily, people considering that garbage like Richards/Edwards is a great match, and pretending botches in Punk/Cena didn't happen are the exact reason I'm not tuning in anymore.

Keep up the good fight, Jaws. sorry to abandon you. You really are the only one left on this board who demands any quality from their wrestling, anymore.
And I thought I took wrestling too seriously sometimes...
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:22 AM   #3186 (permalink)
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Jeez, it really is too bad I hate wrestling, right now, or I would help Jawbreaker shut down these people who clearly have no clue how to defend their positions properly without resorting to 'I'm entitled to my undefended opinion.'

Luckily, people considering that garbage like Richards/Edwards is a great match, and pretending botches in Punk/Cena didn't happen are the exact reason I'm not tuning in anymore.

Keep up the good fight, Jaws. sorry to abandon you. You really are the only one left on this board who demands any quality from their wrestling, anymore.
I've defended my opinion countless times, but you two just can't let it set. I enjoyed the match because it had epic moves, counters and feel-good ending to boot. That's my explanation.

Not everyone is an '...but it's not my opinion, I'm right,' elitist douchebag virgin who hasn't seen sunlight in the last decade. Stop taking wrestling so seriously, and let other people enjoy which you can't seem to enjoy. You could use the old 'Only stupid people enjoyed that match' excuse, but guess what? Wrestling IS made for stupid people.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:19 AM   #3187 (permalink)
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Jawbreaker may have some sort of point if it weren't for the way he comes off. I do believe there is a difference between quality versus how much I like a match. Like I'm not going to watch The Expendables and think it is the greatest movie ever but it is tons of fun. I thought Davey vs. Eddie from BITH was ****1/4 but if you think it is higher that's okay. Most people will not kill you here. But when someone says "If you liked this match then you are stupid" then they are completely ignorant and not worth anyone's time. I mean it wasn't a terrible match by any means. Some people talk about it like if it were a match between two divas.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:37 AM   #3188 (permalink)
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lol he blindly defends Strong/Edwards the exact same way he's criticizing people for defending Strong/Richards. I mean, there's being an elitist douchebag, then there's being a walking contradiction...
how have I blindly defended Strong/Edwards? At no point did I ever pretend that it wasn't an overbooked clusterfuck with a whole bunch of stupid shit that dragged it down, but I'm not pretending it was ***** or even close to it. It was an okay match with some really stupid booking and needless shoehorning in of Truth Martini and Jim Cornette, made really good by Strong's fantastic heel performance. I've defended it at great length several times now, I've responded to criticism and explained why I don't agree, and nobody has said anything sufficiently convincing for me to change my mind (something I'm entirely open to doing and have done several times in the past).

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I've defended my opinion countless times, but you two just can't let it set. I enjoyed the match because it had epic moves, counters and feel-good ending to boot. That's my explanation.

Not everyone is an '...but it's not my opinion, I'm right,' elitist douchebag virgin who hasn't seen sunlight in the last decade. Stop taking wrestling so seriously, and let other people enjoy which you can't seem to enjoy. You could use the old 'Only stupid people enjoyed that match' excuse, but guess what? Wrestling IS made for stupid people.
You haven't responded to any criticism. How is restating the same threadbare arguments "defending your opinion"? I've explained why the match was bad, and you're not responding to anything I'm saying, just throwing out tired clichés that reveal your ignorance.

And yes, wrestling was made for stupid people, but why does that mean it can't appeal to smart people as well? There's wrestling out there that does that, saying "wrestling is for idiots" doesn't make you right. You're allowed to enjoy bad wrestling, and I'm allowed to tell you the wrestling you like is bad. If you're interested in engaging in dialogue with the intention of furthering your understanding (something I did a whole lot when I first came here), I'd be glad to talk about wrestling with you. But if you're just going to tell people what you like, then why are you here? Nobody cares what you like if you're not willing to discuss it with people who disagree. Capone has radically different tastes from me, but he'll defend them well and make me think about them more than I normally would. Segunda Caida keeps pimping whatever lucha he likes (all of it seems to involve Black Terry) and even though I've never really liked lucha when I've watched it in the past, he's making me want to go and get into it. That's what this message board is for. Or should be for.

also, I find the personal jabs to be hilarious considering I haven't watched any wrestling in a month and a half because I've been too busy having a girlfriend.
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Agreed with Jawbreaker, everyone can like what they like but it does get annoying when one poster makes maybe a 2/3 paragraph post explaining what they disliked about the match, and which gives enough room for someone to pick apart each point and talk about it offering an alternative view...and then gets a 'well the counters were ace' response. If the counters looked slick and cool to you then that's perfectly fine, but it would be nice to expand upon that and talk about what specifically made the counters feel organinc and awesome to you.

The whole point of a forum is to discuss contrasting opinions and create good discussion, I understand people get bored of the same Angle/Eddie/Davey bashing but usually the sole reason the discussions get tedious isn't because its been discussed before..but rather only one side seems to be making valid points whereas the other side resorts to 'obvious troll is obvious' comments. I'm sure a lot of people remember that Davey discussion a couple of months back in here involving Capone, Crabtree, Legend, Bubz, Myself, Jawbreaker and maybe Seabs as well as Antonio, SuperduperSonic and possibly McQueen which basically broken down into numerous well made points about Davey being rejected by people saying it wasn't a discussion worth having.

Also Jawbreaker: don't think I've forgotten about all that prime Lawler I pimped to you months back, .
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:31 AM   #3190 (permalink)
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Oh shit, yeah. I watched all the Lawler/Dundee stuff I could find on Youtube and enjoyed the hell out of it. Not something I could see myself watching if it was just the matches but when I got the angles surrounding it it was so much fun. There's a bit where they talk about each other's cars and it felt so natural that I completely forgot it was a work for a second. Wish there was readily accessible episodes of the TV shows every week from the great territories because it's always tons of fun to watch.
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