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Old 02-04-2012, 09:21 AM   #3151 (permalink)
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Each to their own I guess. I thought the match was terrific and it was just a greats story. The emotion surrounding the match before and after meant it was a level above anything else I saw last year.
Unfortunately, that emotion was severely lacking during the match.
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Each to their own I guess. I thought the match was terrific and it was just a greats story. The emotion surrounding the match before and after meant it was a level above anything else I saw last year.
but like flag sabbath said, there was very little emotion during the match, along with absolutely no sense of pacing, no flow, nothing felt organic (and thus realistic), it felt like a super-choreographed exhibition of moves without purpose, with unnecessary "character spots" shoehorned in seemingly at random and not followed up on whatsoever.

It wasn't perfect. It wasn't even good.
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Old 02-04-2012, 03:00 PM   #3153 (permalink)
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I just watched Davey/Generico from GBH 10, and I guess Davey really does refuse to include any sort of logic or good structure in his matches any more, because I was sure if anyone could lead Davey to that it would be Generico, but I was wrong .
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I just watched Davey/Generico from GBH 10, and I guess Davey really does refuse to include any sort of logic or good structure in his matches any more, because I was sure if anyone could lead Davey to that it would be Generico, but I was wrong .
My heart just sunk a little. I had hopes for it.
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I just watched Davey/Generico from GBH 10, and I guess Davey really does refuse to include any sort of logic or good structure in his matches any more, because I was sure if anyone could lead Davey to that it would be Generico, but I was wrong .
I'll be watching that one soon. But he did do a pretty great job in his recent match against Elgin.
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Old 02-04-2012, 04:16 PM   #3156 (permalink)
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I thought Generico might at least play the underdog and get dominated etc for the majority but they didn't go that route and he played Davey's equal pretty much. I thought there were some great parts in the match like the exchange that led to the first alarm clock, but sadly that's all the match was for the most part, exchanging moves. There were moments in the early stages that I thought 'hang on, they might actually go with a control segment from Davey!' but it never happened, Generico was there to get the advantage within the next minute or two. It was a hell of a lot better than some of the recent Davey matches though, mainly because when Generico was getting beaten up he was easy to get behind. If I was adidng a rating it would maybe be around ***1/2 just because everything looked great, but there was overkill and not much logic to speak of.

The Brainbuster on the apron looked fucking sick though!
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Old 02-04-2012, 05:28 PM   #3157 (permalink)
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Damn, guy on pwtorch gave Davey/Generico like ****1/2. Not that it means anything but I thought that meant the match was at least pretty great. I'm hoping I see it differently.
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Yeah, I caught the match live and I didn't think it was too great till the final stretch. The crowd was dead for most of it, killed by the tag title match that preceded it. I did like the top rope dragon suplex and the apron brainbuster, though, those were both executed fairly well. I forgot when it occurred, but there was also a move that knocked out Davey's mouth guard. Maybe a Yakuza kick? Pretty stiff match all around but it was typical "moves for the sake of moves" type stuff, unfortunately. I'll give it a rewatch sometime soon to see if I am right about it.
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Old 02-04-2012, 07:40 PM   #3159 (permalink)
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I still like Davey but it does make me wonder when I hear that he didn't have a great match against a challenging El Generico. The guy is amazing when he's the underdog and the challenger. I've watched matches from 2008 in 2011 where I knew Generico wasn't winning the title yet still got sucked into the match starting rooting for Generico.
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Richards vs Edwards is a pure ***** from me.
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