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Re: The 2011 MOTYC Thread

My final list:

****3/4
John Cena vs. CM Punk - WWE Money In The Bank
Suwama vs. Jun Akiyama - AJPW 23/10


****1/2
Go Shiozaki vs. Jun Akiyama - NOAH 06/08
Kevin Steen vs. El Generico - Ladder Match - PWG Steen Wolf
CM Punk vs. John Cena - WWE Summerslam
Eddie Edwards vs. Davey Richards - ROH Best in the World
Katsuhiko Nakajima vs. Ricky Marvin - NOAH 27/11
Eddie Edwards vs. Chris Hero - ROH Revolution Canada
Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli vs. Takeshi Morishima & Shuhei Taniguchi - NOAH European Navigation Night 2


****1/4
El Generico vs. Kevin Steen - PWG BOLA - ****1/4
Roderick Strong vs. Eddie Edwards - ROH Manhattan Mayhem IV
Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli vs. Kevin Steen & Akira Tozawa - PWG DDT4
KENTA & Yoshinobu Kanemaru vs. Kotaro Suzuki & Atsushi Aoki - NOAH 25/05
Akira Tozawa vs. Shingo - Dragon Gate Kobe World Festival
The Undertaker vs. Triple H - No Holds Barred Match - WrestleMania XXVII
Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose - 30-Minute Iron Man Match - FCW 18/09
Kevin Steen & Akira Tozawa vs. El Generico & Ricochet - PWG All Star Weekend 8 Night 1
Zack Sabre Jr. vs. KENTA - NOAH European Navigation Night 2
Christopher Daniels vs. Davey Richards - Pure Wrestling Rules - ROH Manhattan Mayhem IV
Chris Hero vs. KENTA - NOAH & wXw Genesis In Germany
Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus vs. Kane vs. Wade Barrett vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Sin Cara vs. Justin Gabriel vs. Heath Slater - Money In The Bank Ladder Match - WWE Money In Te Bank
Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli vs. Davey Richards & Eddie Edwards - ROH Revolution USA
Takashi Sugiura vs. KENTA - NOAH 10/10
Akira Tozawa vs. Chris Hero - PWG All Star Weekend 8 Night 2
Jay Briscoe & Mark Briscoe vs. Kenny King & Rhett Titus - ROH Honor Takes Center Stage Chapter 2
Claudio Castagnoli vs. El Generico - PWG Kurt RussellReunion II: The Reunioning
Randy Orton vs. Christian - WWE Over The Limit
Roderick Strong vs. Jay Briscoe - ROH Only The Strong Will Survive
Chris Hero vs. Kevin Steen - PWG Kurt RussellReunion II: The Reunioning
Edge vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Kane vs. Wade Barrett vs. Drew McIntyre vs. Big Show - Elimination Chamber Match - WWE Elimination Chamber
Kotaro Suzuki vs. Eddie Edwards - NOAH The First Navigation 29/01
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Yuji Nagata - NJPW New Dimension 03/05

My 2013 MOTYs so far:

1. Katsuyori Shibata vs. Tomohiro Ishii - NJPW G1 Climax 04/08 *****
2. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada - NJPW Invasion Attack 07/04 *****
3. Brock Lesnar vs. CM Punk - NO DQ Match - WWE Summerslam ****3/4
4. Katsuyori Shibata vs. Hirooki Goto - NJPW Dominion 22/06 ****3/4
5. KENTA vs. Katsuhiko Nakajima - NOAH 05/10 ****1/2
6. John Cena vs. Daniel Bryan - WWE Summerslam ****1/2
7. Suwama vs. Go Shiozaki - 2/3 Falls Match - AJPW 14/07 ****1/2
8. Kota Ibushi vs. Shinsuke Nakamura - NJPW G1 Climax 04/08 ****1/2
9. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tomohiro Ishii - NJPW G1 Climax 02/08 ****1/2
10. Kobashi, Akiyama, Mutoh & Sasaki vs. KENTA, Shiozaki, Kanemaru & Maybach - NOAH Final Burning 11/05 ****1/2

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Here's my top 30. I'm still missing a few of the year's supposed highlights, and have made note of them below.


30. Davey Richards vs. Christopher Daniels — RoH, Manhattan Mayhem IV (3/19)


29. YAMATO vs. Austin Aries — DGUSA, Mercury Rising (4/2)


28. Seth Rollins vs. Dean Ambrose — FCW, 9/18


27. Davey Richards vs. Chris Hero — RoH, Only the Strong Survive (1/15)


26. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Toru Yano — New Japan, 8/13


25. Bad Intentions vs. NO LIMIT — New Japan, 5/3


24. Davey Richards vs. T.J. Perkins — RoH, SoCal Showdown II (1/28)


23. Austin Aries vs. Johnny Gargano — DGUSA, Fearless (6/3)


22. Takashi Sugiura vs. KENTA — NOAH, 10/10


21. Bad Intentions vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi & Hirooki Goto — New Japan, 7/3


20. Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Tetsuya Naitō — New Japan, 8/14


19. Claudio Castagnoli vs. El Generico — PWG, Kurt Russellreunion II: The Reunioning (1/29)


18. Davey Richards vs. Roderick Strong — RoH, Honor Takes Center Stage: Chapter 1 (4/1)


17. Shingo Takagi vs. Akira Tozawa — Dragon Gate, 7/17


16. Bad Intentions vs. Go Shiozaki & Shuhei Taniguchi — NOAH, 10/31


15. Takashi Sugiura vs. Kensuke Sasaki — NOAH, 7/23


14. Masato Yoshino & PAC vs. Naruki Doi & Ricochet — DGUSA, United: Philly (1/29)


13. Randy Orton vs. Christian — WWE, Over the Limit (5/22)


12. Kota Ibushi vs. Ryusuke Taguchi — New Japan, 6/10


11. Eddie Edwards vs. Christopher Daniels — RoH, Honor Takes Center Stage: Chapter 1 (4/1)


10. BxB Hulk vs. Akira Tozawa — DGUSA, United: Finale (1/30)


09. Alberto Del Rio vs. Christian — WWE, Extreme Rules (5/1)


08. Seiya Sanada & Manabu Soya vs. Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi — All Japan, 3/21


07. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Yuji Nagata — New Japan, 4/3


06. Kevin Steen vs. El Generico — PWG, Steen Wolf (10/22)


05. Suwama vs. Jun Akiyama — All Japan, 10/23


04. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Hirooki Goto — New Japan, 6/18


03. John Cena vs. C.M. Punk — WWE, Money in the Bank (7/17)


02. Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Tetsuya Naitō — New Japan, 10/10


01. Eddie Edwards vs. Davey Richards — RoH, Best in the World (6/26)



Major/acclaimed matches I haven't seen yet:
Quackenbush vs. Kingston
Castagnoli vs. Generico II (BoLA)
Steen vs. Generico (BoLA)
Anything from DGUSA that isn't on DVD yet

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Re: The 2011 MOTYC Thread

Bruce, have you seen Christian vs Orton from SSlam? I assume not since it's def. on the high side of a top 30 list. Check that out.
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Yeah; it's one of a number of matches that could've made the list just as easily as a bunch of those that did. Definitely a great match, and a great blowoff for what ended up being the most under-sung feud of the year.
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Re: The 2011 MOTYC Thread

I always find it amusing every year when the new year rolls up and people start posting final MOTY lists like they're not allowed to watch anything from the previous any more and add it to their lists.

Seen a lot of high listings for SHINGO vs Tozawa too from Dragon Gate. Those people should all watch Tozawa vs Mochziuki because that was much better and there's at least a handful of Dragon Gate matches this year which were comfortably better than SHINGO vs Tozawa.

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I always find it amusing every year when the new year rolls up and people start posting final MOTY lists like they're not allowed to watch anything from the previous any more and add it to their lists.

Seen a lot of high listings for SHINGO vs Tozawa too from Dragon Gate. Those people should all watch Tozawa vs Mochziuki because that was much better and there's at least a handful of Dragon Gate matches this year which were comfortably better than SHINGO vs Tozawa.
I enjoyed Shingo vs Toazawa quite a bit more on 1st watch granted I was in a bad mood when I watched Tozawa vs Mochziuki so my focus might not have been all there.
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I always find it amusing every year when the new year rolls up and people start posting final MOTY lists like they're not allowed to watch anything from the previous any more and add it to their lists.
I've always thought the same. My MOTY lists will probably never be finished.

My top 10 for 2011 looks like this:

1. John Cena vs. CM Punk - WWE Money In The Bank - *****
2. Eddie Edwards vs. Davey Richards - ROH Best In The World - ****¾
3. Eddie Edwards vs. Chris Hero - ROH Revolution Canada - ****½
4. The Undertaker vs. Triple H - WWE Wrestlemania XXVII - ****½
5. Randy Orton vs. Christian - WWE Over The Limit - ****¼-****½
6. LDRS of The New School vs. Adam Cole and Kyle O’Reilly - wXw 16 Carat Gold Day 3 - ****¼-****½
7. Roderick Strong vs. Jay Briscoe - ROH Only The Strong Survive - ****¼-****½
8. Davey Richards vs. Zack Sabre Jr. - wXw 16 Carat Gold Day 2 - ****¼-****½
9. Christopher Daniels vs. Davey Richards - ROH Manhattan Mayhem IV - ****¼
10. Claudio Castagnoli vs. El Generico - PWG Kurt RussellReunion II - The Reunioning - ****¼

Still got all of the best PWG matches to watch (except for KRR2) and a lot of Puro, so I won't be finishing this list for quite awhile.

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I always find it amusing every year when the new year rolls up and people start posting final MOTY lists like they're not allowed to watch anything from the previous any more and add it to their lists.

Seen a lot of high listings for SHINGO vs Tozawa too from Dragon Gate. Those people should all watch Tozawa vs Mochziuki because that was much better and there's at least a handful of Dragon Gate matches this year which were comfortably better than SHINGO vs Tozawa.
I liked Tozawa vs Mochizuki better as well...

Seabs any ratings from FINAL GATE?

Having watched WWE and Dragon Gate Japan...

****3/4
Cena vs Punk MITB

****1/2
Orton vs Christian OTL

****1/4
SD Elimination Chamber
Mochizuki, Fujii {Z} vs Saito, Horiguchi {BW} — i208
Mochizuki, YAMATO, Takagi, Yoshino, Gamma {J3} vs CIMA, Doi, Tozawa, Kong, Hulk {BW} — i241

****
Mochizuki {J3} v Tozawa {BW} — i238
PAC, Kid vs CIMA, Ricochet — Kobe 2011
Takagi, Kong, Iwasa, KAGETORA {K} v CIMA, Kid, Ricochet, Gamma {BW} — DOA 2011

argh. I can't remember some of the other DG matches ><

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I liked Tozawa vs Mochizuki better as well...

Seabs any ratings from FINAL GATE?

Having watched WWE and Dragon Gate Japan...

****3/4
Cena vs Punk MITB

****1/2
Orton vs Christian OTL

****1/4
SD Elimination Chamber
Mochizuki, Fujii {Z} vs Saito, Horiguchi {BW} — i208
Mochizuki, YAMATO, Takagi, Yoshino, Gamma {J3} vs CIMA, Doi, Tozawa, Kong, Hulk {BW} — i241

****
Mochizuki {J3} v Tozawa {BW} — i238
PAC, Kid vs CIMA, Ricochet — Kobe 2011
Takagi, Kong, Iwasa, KAGETORA {K} v CIMA, Kid, Ricochet, Gamma {BW} — DOA 2011

argh. I can't remember some of the other DG matches ><
Really disappointing end to a great year for Dragon Gate. 6 man was enjoyable and the tag was MOTN but nothing else was worth watching. Ricochet/Yoshino just didn't click and CIMA/Mochziuki was poor. Jimmyz tag was really underwhelming too and I hoped for that to be a sleeper MOTN.

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I always find it amusing every year when the new year rolls up and people start posting final MOTY lists like they're not allowed to watch anything from the previous any more and add it to their lists.
Speaking just for myself, by this point I've already seen pretty much everything from '11 that A)came highly recommended enough to pique my interest, or B) involved wrestlers I enjoy watching, with a few notable exceptions I took care to point out. I imagine it's the same for most people who make such lists this early in the year.

I'm obviously open to the possibility that at some point in the future I'll stumble upon some hidden gem from '11 that'll make me re-think my list, but I think I'm in decent enough shape right now to put something out there.

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Seen a lot of high listings for SHINGO vs Tozawa too from Dragon Gate. Those people should all watch Tozawa vs Mochziuki because that was much better and there's at least a handful of Dragon Gate matches this year which were comfortably better than SHINGO vs Tozawa.
I thought Mochizuki/Tozawa was a damn fine match, but I greatly prefer Shingo/Tozawa. Thank goodness for Tozawa's awesome US indy tour; he's bringing back to Dragon Gate Japan genuine intensity (as opposed to just speed) and focus — two qualities, especially the latter, that I too often find lacking in D-Gate at home (at least in matches that don't involve YAMATO).

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