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Old 12-10-2011, 06:14 AM   #2721 (permalink)
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Aw, so glad to read that about Cole/Callihan, it's gonna be my first CZW match in years, and my first "regular", non-hardcore CZW match. Looking forward!

Btw, can anyone name 5-10 good/great CZW matches, non-hardcore, with decent crowds and in decent venues? Just "normal" wrestling, I don't want any of their violent shit.
Quack vs B-Boy vs Super Dragon vs Steen - Best of the Best 5
Quack vs Sabin - Night of Infamy 4
Mike Quackenbush vs Arsenal vs Alex Shelley vs Sexxxy Eddy - Only The Strong
Zack Sabre Jr vs Adam Cole - Best of the Best X
Kevin Steen vs El Generico - Point of No Return
Chris Hero vs Egotistico Fantastico - Lines In The Sand
Jigsaw, Hallowicked & The Wild Cards vs Ultramantis, F.I.S.T. & Mike Quackenbush - In Da Club
Adam Cole vs Jonathan Gresham - Prelude to Violence II
Chris Hero vs Arik Cannon vs Roderick Strong vs BJ Whitmer - In Da Club
The Best Around vs The Osirian Portal - Tangled Web 3
Daisuke Sekimoto vs Sami Callihan - Best of the Best X

Can't remember the whole decent crowd/venue stuff but those are some of the better non hardcore CZW stuff I've seen.
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Old 12-10-2011, 06:43 AM   #2722 (permalink)
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Thanks a lot, smitlick. Great info, much appreciated.
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:33 AM   #2723 (permalink)
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wasn't there also a Hero/Kingston match that was just a straight up no DQ match (i.e. not "ultraviolent" or a typical CZW hardcore match)?
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Old 12-10-2011, 12:06 PM   #2724 (permalink)
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Yeah it's from 4/7/07. Haven't seen it myself but I've heard non CZW fans say it's really good. I have it on disc so I can upload it if you like.
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Go Shiozaki vs KENTA

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Ricky Marvin vs Katsuhiko Nakajima

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Naomichi Marufuji vs Takashi Sugiura

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Old 12-11-2011, 09:55 PM   #2726 (permalink)
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TNA Final Resolution 2011

30 Minute Iron Man Match-Bobby Roode(c) vs. AJ Styles

^Other people didn't like the way the match went but I thought Roode played it smart. Really enjoyed the match.

Also enjoyed:
Austin Aries(c) vs. Kid Kash Heel vs. heel can work well, who's the bigger cheater? This was very fun.
Gail Kim(c) vs. Mickie JamesHaven't seen any Shimmer this year or the Joshimania show from Chikara but as of right now this is my favorite women's match of the year.

I already know I probably won't get much agreement but that doesn't matter the question is did I enjoy it?

Well...

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Old 12-12-2011, 01:55 PM   #2727 (permalink)
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Eddie Kingston vs Mike Quackenbush -Chikara High Noon.

This is how you make a match feel special.The emotion of this match was off the charts to say the least. If Kingston didn't win things could of turned ugly. Going into the match I wanted Quack to win , sooner rather than later I wanted Kingston to win more than anything. The match was fairly simple with Kingston coming in with the injured knee and Quack expertly working it over for the majority of the match. You just don't see selling on the Indys like Kingston's selling here. He sold it perfect from start to finish. The match it's self wasn't a technical masterpiece but it was so emotive and hard not to enjoy. Between the pre match promos , the special big match aura,a great emotive wrestling match and a heart touching post match promo I think I have my Indy match of the year.

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Young Bucks vs. Kings of Wrestling, PWG Battle of Los Angeles

This is just absolutely textbook. I don't see how anyone can say the Bucks aren't good heels after watching this, because they're awesome here. They bump like crazy and the crowd is eating it all up. When the Kings are on offense, the crowd is loving everything, when the Bucks are on offense, the crowd is begging Claudio to make a comeback. They've done a fantastic job of changing up their moveset while remaining all flashy, they still do superkicks but they're not desperation comeback babyface superkicks, they're double-team heelish superkicks. The crowd absolutely loved seeing them get the shit beaten out of them, they sold it fantastically, and their comeback and subsequent Claudio workover was real smooth. And then Hero is a beast off the hot tag and Claudio is great leading up to the finish. Nothing groundbreaking, but this was tons and tons of fun with a simple structure and dynamic that worked beautifully.

****

Kevin Steen vs. El Generico, PWG Battle of Los Angeles

Oh man. The hatred. It was palpable. Crowd wanted Generico to win so bad, and they went crazy when he did. It was fantastic. This was very satisfying and at the same time made me want to see more, in a no-DQ setting. Which of course happened, because PWG knows how to book. Anyway, this was super great just because both guys hated each other and did not fuck around. Generico gets powerbombed on the apron in like the first two minutes. Steen heels it up amazingly while still getting over that he hate hate hates Generico. The finish was great because you could kind of see it coming but you couldn't really for sure until it actually happened. It wasn't very long, but it didn't need to be, and really it's better that it wasn't.

****1/4

1. Castagnoli vs. Hero, Eight, ****3/4
2. Steen/Tozawa vs. Goodtime/Yuma, All Star Weekend 8, Night 2, ****1/2
3. Suzuki vs. Nakajima, 3/1 NOAH, ****1/2
4. Hidaka vs. Sekimoto, 1/1 ZERO-1, ****1/4
5. Steen vs. Finlay, Battle of Los Angeles, ****1/4
6. Castagnoli vs. Generico, Kurt RussellReunion 2, ****1/4
7. Suzuki vs. Nakajima, 9/23 NOAH, ****1/4
8. Strong vs. Mack, Card Subject to Change 3, ****1/4
9. Strong/Shelley vs. Generico/Ricochet, Eight, ****1/4
10. Steen vs. Generico, Battle of Los Angeles, ****1/4
11. Steen/Tozawa vs. Generico/Ricochet, All Star Weekend 8, Night 1, ****1/4
12. Goto vs. Tanahashi, NJPW 6/18, ****1/4
13. Strong vs. Briscoe, Only the Strong Survive, ****
14. Castagnoli vs. Generico, Battle of Los Angeles, ****
15. Steen vs. Pac, Eight, ****
16. Cena vs. Punk, Money in the Bank, ****
17. Castagnoli/Hero vs. Jackson/Jackson, Battle of Los Angeles, ****
18. Strong vs. Edwards, Death Before Dishonor IX, ****
19. Hero vs. Edwards, Revolution Canada, ****

11/19 on my MOTYC list are PWG. Best year of any promotion ever?
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Yeah that Kings/Bucks match was great stuff. Just really fun all the way through. I've never seen Hero look better than he did when he comes in and just completely fucks shit up. The spot were Nick climbs in the ring and trips over the middle rope and lands face first is honestly one of the funniest things I've seen in a wrestling match. I legit laughed my ass off. It was so good to see the Kings playing a face team and they looked like they really enjoyed doing it.

I like Steen/Generico quite a bit more than you, I re-watched it and thought it was even better the second time around. It's my indy MOTY. Just brilliant stuff from start to finish and I didn't even care that there wasn't any real selling because of how awesome the story they told was.

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Aw, so glad to read that about Cole/Callihan, it's gonna be my first CZW match in years, and my first "regular", non-hardcore CZW match. Looking forward!

Btw, can anyone name 5-10 good/great CZW matches, non-hardcore, with decent crowds and in decent venues? Just "normal" wrestling, I don't want any of their violent shit.
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wasn't there also a Hero/Kingston match that was just a straight up no DQ match (i.e. not "ultraviolent" or a typical CZW hardcore match)?
I saw these two posts earlier. CZW's hardcore stuff has gotten quite good in the last year or so. Check out this year's Cage of Death PPV for example.

Edit: Yes it was a PPV. The stream was private on the internet.

Edit of the Edit: Yes, that makes it a PPV.
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