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post #2641 of 3228 (permalink) Old 12-03-2011, 11:04 AM
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The Death Vegas card looks promising, although I'm not really sure how to feel about Ito vs Abby.
I've been very meh about the whole angle and Ito's title reign. Why they haven't given the belt to Takeda or Kasai is beyond me.


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getting through my PWG backlog is the most fun I've had in months. 9/17 of my MOTYCs are from PWG, with three from ROH, two NOAH, one NJPW, one ZERO-1, and one WWE making up the rest. another fucking level.

Kevin Steen vs. Finlay, PWG Battle of Los Angeles

Finlay is the fucking man. This was about as good as a fifteen minute match can be. Some pretty cool stuff in the opening with Finlay working holds like nobody else, and Steen being Steen. Then the match has a really clear, really nice turning point with Finlay giving in to the fans and climbing the turnbuckles for a dive, but Knox tells him to stop and Steen takes advantage and fucks up Finlay's knee. The workover is then absolutely great with Steen wanting everyone to know that he is beating the shit out of fucking Finlay right now and that he doesn't even think it's a big deal. Finlay of course sold like a fucking champ, even after his offensive moves. My favorite by far was him getting the knees up on a Swanton and then clutching the knee Steen worked over like he needed a stretcher. Finish was great too, played off the earlier work nicely and basically just made sense. No overkill, and they left me not unsatisfied, but still wanting more, which is really what a first-round tournament match should do.

Segunda mentioned some people watching this match being frustrated with Steen's antics, and to me that's really missing the point. Steen's character is the guy who dicks around and tells jokes and doesn't give his opponent any respect. It would have been out of character for Steen to not interact with the fans in the middle of the match, even though he's wrestling Finlay. Steen's character is great because it makes his opponent seem like an underdog even when it's fucking Finlay, which is absolutely invaluable. The RockNES vs. NVC tag wouldn't have been half as good as it was if Steen was a Davey Richards-like mask of intensity instead of the guy who just cold doesn't give a fuck about his opponent, he's going to win and make it look easy. And then there's the times when he breaks it to wrestle Generico, which has even more of an impact in getting over the hatred between them. Basically, if Steen had wrestled any other way in this match I would have been annoyed because it would have been a big break in character, and that's not something I want to see from Steen. Plus the character added a good bit to the match.

****1/4

Claudio Castagnoli vs. El Generico, PWG Battle of Los Angeles

The previous match was a technical masterpiece that followed a really simple formula and did it really well, with I think two moves more complex than a kick. This one was pretty much the exact opposite, and really, I think there's a lot to be said for a match that's so absolutely crazy with the moves and counters that they have the crowd on their feet for two-thirds of the match. The reversals here were absolutely amazing, and I got caught up in it along with everyone in attendance. Tons and tons of fun and as good a sprint as you're going to see anywhere.

****

Updated list:

1. Castagnoli vs. Hero, Eight, ****3/4
2. Steen/Tozawa vs. Goodtime/Yuma, All Star Weekend 8, Night 2, ****1/2
3. Suzuki vs. Nakajima, 3/1 NOAH, ****1/2
4. Hidaka vs. Sekimoto, 1/1 ZERO-1, ****1/4
5. Steen vs. Finlay, Battle of Los Angeles, ****1/4
6. Castagnoli vs. Generico, Kurt RussellReunion 2, ****1/4
7. Suzuki vs. Nakajima, 9/23 NOAH, ****1/4
8. Strong vs. Mack, Card Subject to Change 3, ****1/4
9. Strong/Shelley vs. Generico/Ricochet, Eight, ****1/4
10. Steen/Tozawa vs. Generico/Ricochet, All Star Weekend 8, Night 1, ****1/4
11. Goto vs. Tanahashi, NJPW 6/18, ****1/4
12. Strong vs. Briscoe, Only the Strong Survive, ****
13. Castagnoli vs. Generico, Battle of Los Angeles, ****
14. Steen vs. Pac, Eight, ****
15. Cena vs. Punk, Money in the Bank, ****
16. Strong vs. Edwards, Death Before Dishonor IX, ****
17. Hero vs. Edwards, Revolution Canada, ****

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Daisuke Sekimoto & Yuji Okabayashi vs Suwama & Takumi Soya - AJPW 19.11.2011
Not on the level of some of Daisuke/Yuji's best matches this year but it's still really good. Really enjoyed Soya in this, thought he played a great underdog and took a great beating. Loved him still selling his back when he got tagged back in after Suwama's pointless and stupid short run in the middle. They really should have cut that bit of the match out as it achieved nothing and just added some needless time to the match. The match being more Okabayashi heavy than Sekimoto made it feel fresh too. Can't believe that more teams don't do the successive body slams spot, especially in WWE. Finishing run was good too with Suwama coming being fresh. Crowd could have been a little better and they could have cut 3-4 minutes that didn't achieve anything.

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YES! Finally someone realises the brilliance of Hero/Claudio! Thank you jawbreaker, I was starting to think I was insane.
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I knew there was someone on here who liked it.

Considering it's December already, I think it has a really good shot at ending up my MOTY.

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I knew there was someone on here who liked it.

Considering it's December already, I think it has a really good shot at ending up my MOTY.
Are you talking about their match from All-Star Weekend or EIGHT? Because I really enjoyed their first match, missing rope, 40 minutes and all, but I couldn't get into their rematch from a few shows later. Something about the pacing threw me off, and watching Hero lay prone for much the duration as he sold his leg wasn't very entertaining to me. It seemed too one-sided, I don't know. But their other match, though around 10 minutes too long (if not more) managed to keep me interested. I really enjoyed how they worked around the busted rope and I felt it added a unique, almost rarely seen element to the match.

I'll have to rewatch their EIGHT match to see what all the fuss is about, though.
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I'd like to nominate Nagata vs Tanahashi from the recent NJPW PPV. Brilliant stuff. They went for 30 minutes and it only felt like 15. The finishing stretch had me on the edge of my seat. I hope someone else loves it as much as I do. ****1/2
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omg instant fan boi of Tanahashi! Miss the Misawa avatar already.

Despite my low rating in the puro thread yesterday I sure loved that match. It felt different from what they've done in the past and in a very good way which made it special. After my second viewing I think I'll throw it somewhere between **** and ****1/4. It's a brilliant match for sure.
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Fan boy of 'Hashi? Nope. Fanboy of 'Hashi vs Nagata. Totally. I did check out Tanahashi's title matches against Kojima and they aren't exactly special (Still very good though).

Oh the avatar is only temporary. I needed to switch my Misawa avatar after I made my new sig. Hey, admit it's more pleasing to the eye than Misawa's ugly mug. :P
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It is a much more intense picture. Don't know the sig. cuz I turned those off long ago, they take up too much space.

Saw you gave his WK match against Kojima ***3/4 and once again we're a star apart here. I gave it ****3/4 after seeing it 3 or 4 times. My first run I gave it ***1/4 I think. Their 2/20 match I've watched a few times to and give that ***3/4.
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