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Old 10-16-2011, 11:58 PM   #2221 (permalink)
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Roode/Angle was great but the finish made you scratch your head
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:28 AM   #2222 (permalink)
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I think wrestling in Japan is treated more like a sport than it is everywhere else. You can cheer for who you like, and if a guy wants to be a heel like Stan Hansen or Dan Kroffat, that's their choice. There are heels in a lot of situations, like Masa Chono in the mid/late 90s (I think, anyway- pretty sure that's right), but it's more about competition than it is about good vs. bad in America.

I much, much, much prefer a face vs. heel dynamic, but I like to look at Japanese wrestling like an anime. Misawa vs. Kawada is Goku vs. Vegeta to me. Misawa's Goku, the top tier hero (who dethroned Jumbo Tsuruta), and Kawada's Vegeta. Vegeta's not evil (anymore), but he's the more grumpy angry one and really wants to be the top guy. Same with most Jushin Liger, I treat his matches like he's facing a different kind of enemy every match (or "episode"), and, in a way, the "villain" is someone like the Great Sasuke tearing at his mask.

not sure how much of that made sense.
We can always use Dragonball and wrestling comparisons. Some of my fav all time fights are from Dragonball and Dragonball Z like the Goku vs Vegeta fight. Dragonball creators could really be terrific wrestling bookers.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:48 AM   #2223 (permalink)
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Just got back from Bound for Glory and I need to talk about a match that is top 5 in my MOTY list. I'm talking about Sting and Hogan. I want to mention how they worked a crowd for 20 minutes doing nothing more than throwing punches. I need to mention that the match had be feeling like an 8 year old kid again watching wrestling, how Hogan turning face is one of my favorite moments ever at a wrestling show. I liked Undertaker/Triple H more while being at an arena live but Hogan/Sting and the after match is my second favorite live match that I've ever seen. Don't give a shit about the star rating it gets it was the most fun that I'll have watching wrestling for a very long time.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:06 AM   #2224 (permalink)
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why was Hogan the TNA champ and did he really let Sting beat him for the title*?

(I have no idea if the "Sting wins the belt at BFG every year" joke is still applicable, I haven't followed TNA since 2008, but I'm making it anyway)
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:10 AM   #2225 (permalink)
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how Hogan turning face is one of my favorite moments ever at a wrestling show
i seem to remember this happening about 8.5 years ago in Toronto at another promotions main ppv in what should have been his last match...
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:13 AM   #2226 (permalink)
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Glad someone enjoyed Sting vs. Hogan, I'm sure if I was in the crowd I probably would have gotten caught up in it too. Watching it on my computer I didn't have any reaction at all: wasn't angry, wasn't excited, wasn't even sad at two old guys bleeding for nothing. Rest of the show wasn't much of anything either except for Aries being great and Daniels/AJ and Roode/Angle being massively disappointing even by lowered standards.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:38 AM   #2227 (permalink)
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Just got back from Bound for Glory and I need to talk about a match that is top 5 in my MOTY list. I'm talking about Sting and Hogan. I want to mention how they worked a crowd for 20 minutes doing nothing more than throwing punches. I need to mention that the match had be feeling like an 8 year old kid again watching wrestling, how Hogan turning face is one of my favorite moments ever at a wrestling show. I liked Undertaker/Triple H more while being at an arena live but Hogan/Sting and the after match is my second favorite live match that I've ever seen. Don't give a shit about the star rating it gets it was the most fun that I'll have watching wrestling for a very long time.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:23 AM   #2228 (permalink)
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Just got back from Bound for Glory and I need to talk about a match that is top 5 in my MOTY list. I'm talking about Sting and Hogan. I want to mention how they worked a crowd for 20 minutes doing nothing more than throwing punches. I need to mention that the match had be feeling like an 8 year old kid again watching wrestling, how Hogan turning face is one of my favorite moments ever at a wrestling show. I liked Undertaker/Triple H more while being at an arena live but Hogan/Sting and the after match is my second favorite live match that I've ever seen. Don't give a shit about the star rating it gets it was the most fun that I'll have watching wrestling for a very long time.
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Old 10-17-2011, 06:31 AM   #2229 (permalink)
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Just got back from Bound for Glory and I need to talk about a match that is top 5 in my MOTY list. I'm talking about Sting and Hogan. I want to mention how they worked a crowd for 20 minutes doing nothing more than throwing punches. I need to mention that the match had be feeling like an 8 year old kid again watching wrestling, how Hogan turning face is one of my favorite moments ever at a wrestling show. I liked Undertaker/Triple H more while being at an arena live but Hogan/Sting and the after match is my second favorite live match that I've ever seen. Don't give a shit about the star rating it gets it was the most fun that I'll have watching wrestling for a very long time.
Glad you appreciated it, I loved the ending part of too.

"Help me, Hogan. Help me!"

*Hogan looks at Sting, looks at the audience, rips shirt, hulks up!*

*CROWD ERUPTS!!!*

Great moment right there, and it made complete sense if you followed the storyline over the last few months. Loved that part of your post at the end about it being the most fun, and forget star ratings. That's how you truly well for me anyway, that's how I truly enjoy wrestling. Forget star ratings, was it fun? Did I enjoy it? Hogan/Sting know how to work a crowd, so happy this ppv was on the road.

edit: I know this might seem dumb, especially in a MOTYC thread but pro wrestling is more than just...wrestling. Hogan/Sting wasn't a technique masterpiece but the build mixed in with the moment at the end is what truly makes wrestling enjoyable for me. Moments like that are great. Moments like that make you go, "Man I love pro wrestling!" At least for me it does, >_> match wasn't nearly as bad as people thought it would compared to things like: Vince/Bret, Cole/Lawler, Cole/Swagger vs. Lawler/JR etc but people instantly thought it'd be the worst match of the year and I honestly didn't wanna see it but it actually added to the ppv and I appreciate it.
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I love "moments" in wrestling, probably even more than I love a great match.

But I can't see the appeal of this, at all. I'm shocked people even liked BFG. It has got to be one of the worst shows I can remember seeing, for what it was and the matches it had, pretty much every single thing fell short of what it should of been.

Anderson & Ray was way better then I thought and my MOTN, Aries & Kendrick was a fine opening match.

AJ & Daniels had their worst match they have had together, a WEAK ending didn't help. Sting and Hogan was what I expected, which wasn't good. The Knockouts match was a mess. The Triple Threat match was okay, but another WEAK finish wiped all of the positive away. Morgan couldn't even just fall over that way? Roode and Angle had a good match, Roode overused the Crossface to the point where it felt like it was his only move, the dusty finish for that match left a bad taste in my mouth, both men being in the ropes and no restart. Killing the huge build TNA have been giving Roode. Van Dam was sloppy, more than normal and that match ended all of a sudden.

It felt like a Impact Super Show. Filled with lame finishes and weak angles. "Tune in next week, because our biggest show on the year just felt like filler inbetween our weekly Impacts." Now no matter when they give Rood the title, it won't mean half of what it would of meant at this show.

I can't see how people could of enjoyed this mess. If you did, great job, I wish I could of watched it with you telling me why these things were great. Because what me and my pals seen left us shaking our heads and speechless at the crap we just witnessed.
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