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post #181 of 3228 (permalink) Old 02-17-2011, 11:36 PM
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sean i understand you have an opinion but you seriously overrate puro today epecially when you compared kobashi and misawa to shiozaki and nakamura there is no comparision and when you call puro matches masterpieces and they are nowhere close to that, and at least wwe has booking with logical storylines, unlike most puro companies that just have confrontations and then title matches
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I have to agree it's just the skits, booking and pay per views by WWE that are unbearable. The actual wrestling by WWE's young guys on tv has been really good. But other then Wrestlemania they can't promote shit.
The PPVs? PPVs are the only time when I know I'm going to see wrestling
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With WWE the pay off is never worth it. A great pay per view is as rare as a major superstar these days. At one time Wrestlemania wasn't the only show that promised to deliver and we could actually tell other shows would be great just by the build... what's that you don't know about pay per view build? That's because you've been watching WWE and TNA for too long. Run down indies with vanilla midgets still out perform WWE and TNA even have better pay per view build despite barely being on the air. TNA and WWE do just as many spot fests as PWG (okay maybe not that many) and ROH, the difference is PWG and ROH guys actually hit the spots properly and make a decent match out of a side show.

When I say masterpiece it's often when a quiet Japanese crowd goes ape shit and tops any reaction in TNA or WWE in forever. Gives me All Japan flash backs. To me that is beautiful and better than anything WWE has offered us since Taker vs. Michaels. Good crowds are highly underrated. All you have to do is get the fans emotionally invested and deliver the goods, again something WWE & TNA are forgetting how to do with most matches.

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sean i understand you have an opinion but you seriously overrate puro today epecially when you compared kobashi and misawa to shiozaki and nakamura there is no comparision and when you call puro matches masterpieces and they are nowhere close to that
eh, the Kobashi/Misawa stuff isn't always for everyone. I just watched the Oct 1995 tag they had with Kawada and Taue and hated it. Gimme most modern puro over that any day. That said there is ALOT of old puro I like. I really don't care what year something happened in, whether it's 2011, 1993 or 2004, I couldn't care less. If I like a match, I like a match.

and speaking of matches I like!

Updated for 14/2 (New additions in bold)

Including Dec 2010, Observer style.

WWE:
Royal Rumble (1/30) ****3/4
John Morrison vs. Sheamus (12/19) ****1/4
John Cena vs. Dolph Ziggler (12/20) ****

Puro:
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Satoshi Kojima (1/4) (NJPW) ****1/2
Prince Devitt vs. Kota Ibushi (1/4) (NJPW) ****1/2
Takashi Sugiura vs. Takeshi Morishima (12/5) (NOAH) ****1/2
Kings Of Wrestling vs. Takayama/Sano (12/5) (NOAH) ****1/2
Apollo55 vs. Golden Lovers (1/23) (NJPW) ****1/4
YAMATO vs. BxB Hulk (12/26) (DG) ****1/4
Daisuke Sekimoto vs. Ikuto Hidaka (1/1) (Z1) ****1/4

KENTA vs. Naomichi Marufuji (12/5) (NOAH) ****1/4
Bad Intentions vs. Blue Justice (12/11) (NJPW) ****1/4
Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Hirooki Goto (12/11) (NJPW) ****1/4
Satoshi Kojima vs. Shinsuke Nakamura (12/11) (NJPW) ****1/4
Aoki/Marufuji vs. Kanemoto/Tiger Mask (12/24) (NOAH) ****
No Limit vs. Motor City Machine Guns (12/11) (NJPW) ****
CIMA/Yoshino vs. Doi/Gamma (12/21) (DG) ****
K-neSuka vs. Fujii/Mochizuki (12/21) (DG) ****
Maraha Isappa vs. Mochizuki/Fujii vs. Shingo/Cyber (12/26) (DG) ****
Yoshino/PAC vs. CIMA/Kid (12/5) (DG) ****
Kondo/KAI vs. Doi/Tanisaki (1/24) (DG/AJPW) ****
Taniguchi/Morishima vs. Sasaki/Nakajima (1/29) (NOAH) ****
Eddie Edwards vs. Kotaro Suzuki (1/29) (NOAH) ****


PWG:
Kevin Steen vs. Akira Tozawa (12/11) ****1/2
Peligro Abejas vs. Kings Of Wrestling (12/11) ****1/4
Young Buck$ vs. Fighting Taylor Boys (12/11) ****



DGUSA/EVOLVE:
PAC/Yoshino vs. Doi/Ricochet (1/29) ****1/4
Akira Tozawa vs. Austin Aries (1/29) ****
Ronin vs. Doi/Ricochet (1/28) ****
Ronin vs. CIMA/Dragon Kid (1/29) ****
Ronin vs. Aries/Horiguchi/Ricochet (1/7 airdate) ****



ROH:
Kevin Steen vs. El Generico (Fight Without Honour) (12/18 ) ****3/4
Roderick Strong vs. Davey Richards (12/18 ) ****1/2
All Night Express vs. Cole/O’Reilly (12/18 ) ****


Other:
Leaders vs. Peligro Abejas (12/5) (IPW:UK) ****1/2
Eddie Edwards vs. Mark Haskins (12/5) (IPW:UK) ****
Philly’s Most Wanted vs. The Osirian Portal (12/11) (CZW) ****
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Has anyone seen or heard anything about the Tag Title Classic 2 main event? Really looking forward to that.
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Has anyone seen or heard anything about the Tag Title Classic 2 main event? Really looking forward to that.
I've only seen one review of the show from a guy on youtube, and he gave it ****1/2. It's like a 35 minute match I believe.
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Re: The 2011 MOTYC Thread

Worth a watch---SD Elimination Chamber from EC2011
(there were a LOT of 619s and 619 attemps in this match.)


You know you remember this.
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Smackdown chamber match was at least 4 Barrett/McIntyre feuds out of 5. Very fun stuff.

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Yeah the EC matches are defo worth checking out.

The smackdown one has gotta be ****
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Re: The 2011 MOTYC Thread

World Heavyweight Championship Elimination Chamber Match
Edge(c) vs. Rey Mysterio vs. Kane vs. Drew McIntyre vs. Wade Barrett vs. Big Show - ****
Far exceeded my expectations. Excellent match that really made everyone look strong except Barrett, but who even likes him anyway? The finishing stretch was great, but I feel like people will overrate this based on that sequence, which was really just the same moves over and over. Regardless, match of the night by far. Currently WWE's MOTY.
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