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Old 06-13-2011, 05:15 AM   #1021 (permalink)
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All about the sloppiness. This is probably MOTY if everything had been clean, but it wasn't even close. I also agree about them trying to do everything too fast. If O'reilly takes his time, he could have gotten that double sharpshooter. Most of the bad spots I was just like....chill out guys, and get it right! that's something I always like about the Machine Guns. They always take an extra second to make sure the spot is right. Obviously you liked it a quarter star more than me, but I just think the sloppiness turned me off to it a bit more than you.
The thing is - it was the third day of a tournament and especially Zack looked battered and tired at his entrance. So why shouldn't they be just a little bit sloppy in their work? That's my one problem with this criticism. Personally I thought there was massive overkill at the show. I was absolutely amazed how well it held up. It was the anti-PWG live match (sorry, their European shows didn't hold up at all on DVD)
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:25 AM   #1022 (permalink)
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Thinking about it now, it really was a strange botch. How the hell did Davey misjudge the jump that much (to the extent of landing on the ropes) after years of doing the move perfectly.
It was way too rushed. He didn't even take time to set it up. He was barely on the top rope when he went for the move.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:29 AM   #1023 (permalink)
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AJ Styles vs Bully Ray - Last Man Standing - Slammiversary 2011
Thought this was really good but not as great as others. It just seemed to be missing something to make it more memorable. AJ really brought the hate and the intensity and that helped the match a lot. His punches looked really good too. Always enjoyed Bubba before and he was good here, not great nor as good as AJ but he more than carried his his side of the deal. Ray's control segment was a notch too slow but it was methodical, played into both characters and AJ's fighting spirit came through nicely with the chops. It still had some lol TNA moments but that's to be expected. AJ pulling on the ring apron to reveal a TNA banner underneath the iMPACT wrestling banner was hilarious I thought. The camera work was really dodgy at times too and Taz/Tenay were generally quite horrible calling the match. The running ... whatever it was off the stage was poor too. Ray's positioning was too far out and it made the move as well as AJ's dive look weak. HATED how obvious Ray's blade job was too. Really despise it when wrestlers go underneath the ring and then come out with blood everywhere. Finish was bigger than anything prior to it so it worked and they had a big spot in there too. Wasn't crazy about the dive but it worked I guess. Hated how Bubba just set himself up on the table too. The final spot was fresh I guess although I wasn't crazy about it either. The teased powerbomb off the stage was a nice callback but it really should have been the finish with AJ doing it instead if this is intended to be the feud ender. Still a very good match but I wasn't crazy about it. Thought it could have done with some more spots. I'm not saying I wish it was spot heavy because I enjoyed how they didn't rely on weapon spots but I thought they could have used some more to make it more memorable rather than just a really good match that I'll forget pretty soon.

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Old 06-13-2011, 07:49 AM   #1024 (permalink)
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TNA Slammiversary IX

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Bully Ray vs. AJ Styles ***¾-****
While I wouldn't go as high as others on the match, this was still a pretty damn great match and the best I've seen from TNA since MCMG/Beer Money last year. There isn't really much I can add to what Seabs said as my thoughts are damn near identical to him on the match. Really enjoyed the "AJ showing he's a man" section of the match by taking all the strikes Ray was inflicting and just asking for more
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:30 PM   #1025 (permalink)
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The thing is - it was the third day of a tournament and especially Zack looked battered and tired at his entrance. So why shouldn't they be just a little bit sloppy in their work? That's my one problem with this criticism. Personally I thought there was massive overkill at the show. I was absolutely amazed how well it held up. It was the anti-PWG live match (sorry, their European shows didn't hold up at all on DVD)
A really good point, but to me, this still isn't an excuse. the way you explain it makes it sound like if they had been sloppy on purpose, they did it because it would have sold the previous days' matches. The truth is, I would have no problem if they had trouble hitting moves due to a limb that had been worked in the previous, or had they hit the moves with less impact as a result of their previous matches, but that wasn't the case. They executed the moves sloppily, and sold the moves as if they had been hit properly. Not to mention that it just makes the whole match seem much less professional.
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:25 PM   #1026 (permalink)
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AJ Styles vs. Bully Ray
***1/2

Everything that happened in the ringside area was awesome. Intensity was great, and the story of AJ's toughness was incredible. AJ begging for chops was the best part of the match: awesome intensity and Bubba's face was amazing.

Then they went to the stage....and it fell apart. Seabs is right: Bubba was way too far away, and the leap looked horrible. I hate the finish all around, mostly because AJ was on his feet, so the count should have broken for him. He wasn't down for a ten count....so he didn't lose. Drops from 4 stars to 3 1/2, just for that.

Good match, especially by TNA's standards, but too many head-scratchers to put it over the top.
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Old 06-15-2011, 12:44 AM   #1027 (permalink)
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AJ Styles vs Bully Ray ***3/4+

This was really good, but I hated the finish. I fucking hate TNA's stage spots they do, not the dives, but the ones were the wrestlers go through the stage. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't so obviously thin. It looked like cardboard!

Anyway, the rest of the match was great, AJ was amazing here, this is why I love the guy. I wont go in to much detail as Seabs and Nervosa have basically said what I was going to apart from I didn't mind the dive off the stage and the elbow drop from the scaffolding was pretty sweet.
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Old 06-15-2011, 07:38 PM   #1028 (permalink)
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Chris Hero vs. Zack Sabre, Jr. = ***3/4 Hero is always great, and the kid takes a hell of a beating, sells like a champ too.

Sugiura Takashi vs. Claudio Castagnoli + **** NOAH & wXw Genesis In Germany - Castagnoli gives Sugiura his first great match of 2011 in this barn burner!

Chris Hero vs KENTA = ****1/4 to ****1/2. NOAH & wXw Genesis In Germany - Holy shit. The best match I've seen in awhile!

AJ Styles vs Bully Ray = **** Last Man Standing - Slammiversary 2011 – Shit finish to a great match.

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Old 06-16-2011, 12:05 AM   #1029 (permalink)
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PWG - Card Subject To Change III

Roderick Strong vs. Willie Mack - ****

Willie Mack, where the hell did you come from? I'd honestly never even heard of the guy before DDT4 and now he's legitly trading chops with one of the best in the world. Fantastic match highlighted by Mack becoming a star. Literally everything he did in this match was great. He sold all of Roddy's chops and backbreakers like a champ, and when he returned fire he did it with such force that it really looked like he was retaliating after getting an ass whipping. Fantastic underdog performance from Willie and clearly Roddy is just gonna do what he does and be great. Extremely excited to see more of Mack.

PWG World Championship
Claudio Castagnoli(c) vs. Joey Ryan - ****

Psychologically, this was great. Technically, this was great. Selling wise, damn near perfect. I really couldn't have asked for anymore from the match. Incredible performance from Claudio as he continues to make me wonder why he's not currently employed by Vince McMahon. The first several minutes where he displayed his technical prowess were just ridiculous. Joey's armwork was great and made perfect sense, and him telling the fans he would wrestle clean and then eventually poking Claudio in the eyes was great too. Although the finish was a bit rushed, it looked ok because Joey looked to be in quite a bit of pain. Awesome match.

PWG World Tag Team Championship
El Generico & Ricochet(c) vs. The Young Bucks - ****+

As if the night couldn't get any better, you get this beauty of a tag match. Ricochet was a PERFECT replacement for London, and the Bucks are extremely entertaining as heels this year. Mainly when they're posing, which is all the time. So there you go. Everythiong was crisp and Ricochet didn't botch anything, so that's a big plus. Really it's just what you'd expect it to be. A fast paced, high flying tag match that's a lot of fun.
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Sami Callihan vs Yoshihito Sasaki wXw carat gold= 4,5/5
Davey vs Sabre same show= 5/5
TJP vs Davey= 4,5/5
TJP vs Generico= 4/5. it didnt bother me that this one was quick.
LAX vs KOW= 4/5
Ar Fox vs Rich Swann EVOLVE 7- 4/5
PAC vs Ricochet DG 211(I Guess)= 3,5/5, i feel like i should give more to this match, but lets go
PAC vs Doi Dead or Alive= 3,5/5 feel like i could give more to this one too =/
Ki vs Tozawa- 3/5
Mack vs Strong- 4/5 not sure how much rating to give to this one but, awesome match.
Nakajima vs Suzuki NOAH= 4,5/5
These are the best matches in my opnion and from the top of my mind for this year so far
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