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Old 06-10-2013, 12:39 AM   #9741 (permalink)
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I've always found Elgin wrestling people his own size to be rather enjoyable, although it doesn't happen very often. Have to check that out when it's released. Speaking of Elgin, the girlfriend's asleep and I AIN'T, so I'm gonna watch some wrasslin...

Michael Elgin vs. ACH (ROH Dragon's Reign) - *** 1/2

Heard a lot of great shit about this and I was pretty happy with it considering my expectations were quite low. To be honest this was my first time seeing ACH and he reminds me WAY too much of AR Fox right now and that is just not good. Extremely goofy looking comedic selling and stupid ass facial expressions while seemingly relying on nothing but spots (2 of which were half botched in this). First several minutes are Elgin overpowering the youngster (ACH's goofy ass selling only let Elgin hold the suplex for 36 seconds, NICE GOIN KID) until ACH makes the comeback and it's just a bunch of back and forths move for like 10 minutes. Normally this would get old but they delivered some damn good nearfalls and Elgin's deadlift falcon arrow was fucking gorgeous.Excellent nearfall after ACH gets a random flurry offense when he's at his lowest point in the match. It always bothers me that Elgin wrestles these smaller guys like they're equals and they have to trade moves over and over, but it always puts a big smile on my face if he ends up MURDERING them in the end. Anyways, good match besides the young kid looking stupid on a few occasions.
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Im hoping Hollister takes the belt off of Elgin on the 28th
Also: I love the Crist's promos on the shows. Its humerus.
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I've always found Elgin wrestling people his own size to be rather enjoyable, although it doesn't happen very often. Have to check that out when it's released. Speaking of Elgin, the girlfriend's asleep and I AIN'T, so I'm gonna watch some wrasslin...

Michael Elgin vs. ACH (ROH Dragon's Reign) - *** 1/2

Heard a lot of great shit about this and I was pretty happy with it considering my expectations were quite low. To be honest this was my first time seeing ACH and he reminds me WAY too much of AR Fox right now and that is just not good. Extremely goofy looking comedic selling and stupid ass facial expressions while seemingly relying on nothing but spots (2 of which were half botched in this). First several minutes are Elgin overpowering the youngster (ACH's goofy ass selling only let Elgin hold the suplex for 36 seconds, NICE GOIN KID) until ACH makes the comeback and it's just a bunch of back and forths move for like 10 minutes. Normally this would get old but they delivered some damn good nearfalls and Elgin's deadlift falcon arrow was fucking gorgeous.Excellent nearfall after ACH gets a random flurry offense when he's at his lowest point in the match. It always bothers me that Elgin wrestles these smaller guys like they're equals and they have to trade moves over and over, but it always puts a big smile on my face if he ends up MURDERING them in the end. Anyways, good match besides the young kid looking stupid on a few occasions.
Interesting review. Feels like there were glaring negatives you didn't enjoy, but you managed to find positives to put over the match. I'm intrigued, although I fear not liking it all that much.
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Interesting review. Feels like there were glaring negatives you didn't enjoy, but you managed to find positives to put over the match. I'm intrigued, although I fear not liking it all that much.
I think my rating may be a tad generous due it really just being about 3 moments that I really enjoyed, but the rest was certainly still watchable. Crowd was eating it up like butter.

I just hope ACH doesn't pull the same shit in all his matches that he did here. Elgin throws him up for the suplex and the kid starts flailing his arms around and acting like a fish out of water, I would've been pissed if I was Elgin. Toss in the annoying facial expressions and goofy ass selling and I'm not exactly sold on the guy, but I'll give him another go in the near future.

May check out Lethal vs. Jacobs No DQ from the same show, since it is Jacobs of course.
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Jacobs worked vs Lethal a few times this year before that and it sucked. Fingers crossed he worked his magic in a No DQ environment.

ACH does that "flailing arms" thing in every match. It's part of his work I guess. I'm still in the middle with him. Some matches I like and some I think are terrible. There hasn't been a consistent pattern. Well, that's a lie. I don't have a major problem with him, yet I do think most of his matches have been on the negative side than positive. I want to like him. So much to the point where I kind of do. How's that for contradictory? Hasn't always had the best opponents either. Favorite match so far has been the good one vs Mark Angelosetti last year in Chikara. The first one - The Ring of Wax. All I know is, he won't be a favorite of mine ever. Far too up in the air when it comes to the matches to be that way.
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Chikara The Ghost of You Clings

(5/4/2013)


1. Chuck Taylor vs. Shenron

Well, here we go, this is my new guilty pleasure of the year, Chucky T versus a rookie. The match is buckets of fun, they fired up the crowd immensely, and Chuck’s goofy stuff was top notch, he’s just so natural. And this Shenron dude? Let me tell you, if you think AR Fox is a stupid reckless fuck, then oh boy, you’re so wrong, warm the cookies and stop the presses, because this Shenron guy is suicidal.

***1/2


2. Pieces of Hate (Jigsaw & The Shard) vs. The Colony (Fire Ant & AssailANT)

In my opinion, matches like this one is where Chikara is at it’s best and delivers greatness, when they keep comedy to minimum, and let the ringwork speak. This match was awesome, great, with basic tag team storytelling and structure, but with Chikara’s fingerprints to spice shit up. Everyone was great, but AssailANT was the MVP, such a classy face-in-peril he was, I got some Generico vibe from that.

****


3. Gran Akuma vs. Sugar Dunkerton

This was designed to move the Sugar/F.I.S.T. story to the next level, and it worked, but in essence, it was still a basic pro-wrestling play where Sugar’s goofy comedy approach meets Akuma’s serious shit.

**3/4


4. Amasis vs. Kobald

After the terrible performance from the night before, Amasis was much better here, he actually sold things. Also, I dig Kobald more and more.

**1/4


5. The Spectral Envoy (UltraMantis Black, Hallowicked & Frightmare) & Green Ant vs. DeviANT & The Colony Xtreme Force (Arctic Rescue Ant, Missile Assault Ant & Orbit Adventure Ant)

Meh, typical multi-man exhibition sprint, nothing more, there were sloppy moments, but I liked the ending.

**


6. Tim Donst vs. Saturyne

Hell yeah, two of my Chikara favorites together in the ring. Donst’s “sick of everything” character is excellent, and Saturyne is becoming the female version of El Generico, she’s such a fun, loveable underdog, and a lock for at least a solid match. Great work from both.

***1/4


7. Chikara Grand Championship: Eddie Kingston © vs. Mark Angelosetti

Yep… Eddie Kingston does it again. Or, should I say “Mr. Touchdown does it again”? Because, both statements are true, and both guys are amazing at what they do, very consistent in big matches. Eddie decides to take the kid to school, and Mark is a jerk, but he’s a tough and smart jerk. The legwork sessions were predictable but good, it gave us a dose of unpredictability, convinced us that Mark might actually win. Awesome match with great selling, climax and finish.

***3/4


8. Chikara Campeonatos de Parejas: 3.0 (Scott Parker & Shane Matthews) © vs. The Batiri (Obariyon & Kodama)

JEEE-ZUS! Another painfully boring 3.0 match, they are cure for insomnia, I swear. This one even had a generic injury angle to put some sympathy on them, but I still didn’t care. They are boring characters, dull wrestlers and sloppy athletes.

*1/4


I swear, I’m gonna pretend the main event never existed so I can call this an amazing show. Go check the matches under 1, 2 and 7, ASAP.
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Jacobs worked vs Lethal a few times this year before that and it sucked. Fingers crossed he worked his magic in a No DQ environment.

ACH does that "flailing arms" thing in every match. It's part of his work I guess. I'm still in the middle with him. Some matches I like and some I think are terrible. There hasn't been a consistent pattern. Well, that's a lie. I don't have a major problem with him, yet I do think most of his matches have been on the negative side than positive. I want to like him. So much to the point where I kind of do. How's that for contradictory? Hasn't always had the best opponents either. Favorite match so far has been the good one vs Mark Angelosetti last year in Chikara. The first one - The Ring of Wax. All I know is, he won't be a favorite of mine ever. Far too up in the air when it comes to the matches to be that way.
The part about the opponents is a shame too. Like what TaylorFitz said a while back about AR Fox, I really wish we had some ring generals still around to show these guys the ropes and guide them to not look so fucking stupid all the time but unfortunately it's all a bunch of guys that are going to either wrestle the same style and fly around the ring or just wanna get their own name out there so who fuckin cares what the other guy is doin? I miss the old days of the indies...
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The part about the opponents is a shame too. Like what TaylorFitz said a while back about AR Fox, I really wish we had some ring generals still around to show these guys the ropes and guide them to not look so fucking stupid all the time but unfortunately it's all a bunch of guys that are going to either wrestle the same style and fly around the ring or just wanna get their own name out there so who fuckin cares what the other guy is doin? I miss the old days of the indies...
I agree as it is a topic I've often discussed too. I don't want to get into details of it again b/c well, I've exhausted all I can say about the subject, but no doubt every single wrestler would benefit from having someone lead the pack opposed to everyone kind of fighting among themselves, if you will. There aren't much left. Or with the ones remaining, the often aren't used in that position.
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Never really followed Chikara but I just decided to download almost all of their shows from this year (skipped 2 I believe). Pretty excited to see Mr. Touchdown & The Devastation Corporation. Those guys look awesome.
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Mr. Touchdown has been the god damn man this entire year. Can't go wrong with Dev Corp either. Those guys are two relatively excellent monsters.

Keep an eye out for The Shard too. (and personal standpoint comments permits I plug Ophidian and Tim Donst too b/c well, they've been my favorites from the company for years.)

btw, which shows did you skip? b/c While The Dawn is Breaking isn't a show that's too special collectively, you must see Touchdown vs Saturyne. So, if that wasn't one of them, get it.
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