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AAW Point Of No Return (12/4/2013):

1) Jimmy Jacobs vs. Silas Young ***1/2
2) Colt Cabana & Juntai Miller vs. Dan Lawrence & Markus Crane **1/4
3) Rich Swann vs. Lamar Titan vs. Louis Lyndon **
4) Marion Fontaine & Darin Corbin vs. Tweek Phoenix & Keith Walker *3/4
5) Sami Callihan vs. Shane Hollister *1/2
6) Saraya Knight, Miss Natural & Taylor Made vs. Ms Chief, Christina Von Eerie & Heidi Lovelace *1/4
7) ACH vs. Kyle O'Reilly ***1/4
8) Irish Airbourne vs. Arik Cannon & Mat Fitchett *1/2
9) Michael Elgin vs. Davey Richards **3/4

This was my first full AAW show & the name is pretty apt 'cos I doubt I'll be coming back. Young and Jacobs set the table with a wrestling clinic that they made look effortless, while most of the undercard crew put in twice as much work for half the returns. Swann's debut was littered with ultra-complex three-way spots, but lacked any real substance. Callihan vs. Hollister was the worst kind of videogame horseshit - boot opponent in the mush, drop him on his head a couple of times, run the ropes, eat a boot to the mush, get dropped on your head, wait for opponent to run the ropes, etc - with the added bonus of a TNA finish. ACH and O'Reilly surprised by telling a fairly solid story - speed & agility vs. strikes & submissions, with ACH repeatedly getting suckered into going toe-to-toe. And Elgin vs. Richards was pretty good for the first 10-15 mins, with Davey working the leg & Elgin targeting the back. Of course, once Elgin popped up from a superplex, it all went to shit & they were ignoring potential finishers left, right & centre. I definitely need to cut back on my indie viewing 'cos this nonsense mostly bugs the crap out of me.
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AAW's generally a promotion where you can grab the odd good match or two off each card. I enjoyed their shows a lot more when Raymond and Able were running wild their circa 09-10 and Jacobs and Silas were on fire there. I'll probably spend a day at some point catching up on all the ACH, Jacobs and Silas matches I want to watch from their shows since the last one I saw (mid 2012). Did that ACH/Ali match that got the really positive live review on here get released. I was looking out for it and never seen it on a DVD review.

As far as Indy stuff goes I've been at the point of cutting back further and further for a year or two now. I'm much happier for watching Damien Wayne and Dean Allmark matches over **-*** ROH midcard matches.

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I'm trying to stay positive with current ROH. It zaps my strength when guys like Davey Richards & Jay Lethal get the most time on their big shows. Think I should just go back to skipping every Davey/O'Reilly/Wolves match again. Hated every single one from this year. Hell, I even disliked Edwards vs Fish.

just give me Jimmy Jacobs singles matches you bastards. Delirious: you aren't any better than Cornette at this rate.

idc what Seabs says Chikara is bossy as ever. () Latest show ruled. CZW entertains me despite their shows being filled with crap (lol @ BLK OUT & AR Fox), & PWG - yeah, they're just fine. At this point I'm enjoying my Joshi more than collective work from the men's ranks. And some of the SHINE shows have been filled with crap too. But when it's good, it's a whole lot of fun.

Damien Wayne is cool beans. Got a point there.

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AAW Point Of No Return (12/4/2013):

1) Jimmy Jacobs vs. Silas Young ***1/2
2) Colt Cabana & Juntai Miller vs. Dan Lawrence & Markus Crane **1/4
3) Rich Swann vs. Lamar Titan vs. Louis Lyndon **
4) Marion Fontaine & Darin Corbin vs. Tweek Phoenix & Keith Walker *3/4
5) Sami Callihan vs. Shane Hollister *1/2
6) Saraya Knight, Miss Natural & Taylor Made vs. Ms Chief, Christina Von Eerie & Heidi Lovelace *1/4
7) ACH vs. Kyle O'Reilly ***1/4
8) Irish Airbourne vs. Arik Cannon & Mat Fitchett *1/2
9) Michael Elgin vs. Davey Richards **3/4

This was my first full AAW show & the name is pretty apt 'cos I doubt I'll be coming back. Young and Jacobs set the table with a wrestling clinic that they made look effortless, while most of the undercard crew put in twice as much work for half the returns. Swann's debut was littered with ultra-complex three-way spots, but lacked any real substance. Callihan vs. Hollister was the worst kind of videogame horseshit - boot opponent in the mush, drop him on his head a couple of times, run the ropes, eat a boot to the mush, get dropped on your head, wait for opponent to run the ropes, etc - with the added bonus of a TNA finish. ACH and O'Reilly surprised by telling a fairly solid story - speed & agility vs. strikes & submissions, with ACH repeatedly getting suckered into going toe-to-toe. And Elgin vs. Richards was pretty good for the first 10-15 mins, with Davey working the leg & Elgin targeting the back. Of course, once Elgin popped up from a superplex, it all went to shit & they were ignoring potential finishers left, right & centre. I definitely need to cut back on my indie viewing 'cos this nonsense mostly bugs the crap out of me.
Bummer that you didn't like the AAW show, it was one of my favorites both live and on DVD. I personally think you're being a little too hard on it as a whole, but to each their own. If you don't know much about Sami or Shane, or their story going into the match, then a lot of what happened during it may not, and will not, make much sense. They've had a long-burning feud and decided to go stiff, and in two weeks they're blowing off their feud for a last man standing match, so that should be stiff too. It fits within the context of their program, and if you take it for any more than that, then yeah, you're going to be disappointed.
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To be fair, that review is more of a reflection on my having had enough of the current indie style than it is on AAW - I just happened to be watching an AAW show when over-saturation finally took its toll. I'm sure their shows are a whole heap of fun to attend & follow, plus I neglected to compliment the commentary team for managing to hold together some of the matches when they were in danger of falling apart.
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Chikara - The Shoulder of Pallas


1) Kobald vs Saturyne ~ ***


2) Four Way Elimination Match
The Batiri (Obariyon & Kodama) vs Devastation Corporation (Max Smashmaster & Blaster McMassive) vs The Throwbacks II (Dasher Hatfield & Mark Angelosetti) vs Ultramantis Black & Blind Rage ~ ***1/2


3) FIST (Icarus, Chuck Taylor, Johnny Gargano, & Sugar Dunkerton) vs 3.0 (Shane Matthews & Scott Parker), Gran Akuma, & Marty Jannetty ~ ***


4) Grudge Match - Part III
Tim Donst vs Archibald Peck ~ ***


5) The Colony (Fire Ant, Green Ant, & AssailAnt) & Frightmare vs Soldier Ant & The Colony Xtreme Force (Arctic Rescue Ant, Missile Assault Ant, & Orbit Adventure Ant) ~ ***


6) Chikara Grand Championship
Eddie Kingston(c) vs Hallowicked ~ ***3/4


7) Mike Quackenbush & Jushin Liger vs Jigsaw & The Shard ~ ***3/4



I'll probably never see the Dragon Gate: USA shows from the same weekend. Moot point knowing myself. Chikara stole WrestleCon weekend. It's shows like this that remind me why I love the promotion like I do.

I screamed, jumped, hollered, and all that jazz when Liger's music hit + came out. I have no shame in admitting this. BRILLIANT moment.

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Did anyone get their PWG ASW dvds in the mail yet...sitting here waiting, trying to go spoiler free...
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Out of curiosity is the Davey Richards hate a current thing or all of his work? I only watched ROH in 06-08 but I really liked his work then.

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Some have always hated him. Some (like myself) had no major problems with him in his early years & good when vs the right opponents (<3 most matches vs Aries) Now he's just about the worst thing walking the earth.

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Chikara - The Shoulder of Pallas


1) Kobald vs Saturyne ~ ***


2) Four Way Elimination Match
The Batiri (Obariyon & Kodama) vs Devastation Corporation (Max Smashmaster & Blaster McMassive) vs The Throwbacks II (Dasher Hatfield & Mark Angelosetti) vs Ultramantis Black & Blind Rage ~ ***1/2


3) FIST (Icarus, Chuck Taylor, Johnny Gargano, & Sugar Dunkerton) vs 3.0 (Shane Matthews & Scott Parker), Gran Akuma, & Marty Jannetty ~ ***


4) Grudge Match - Part III
Tim Donst vs Archibald Peck ~ ***


5) The Colony (Fire Ant, Green Ant, & AssailAnt) & Frightmare vs Soldier Ant & The Colony Xtreme Force (Arctic Rescue Ant, Missile Assault Ant, & Orbit Adventure Ant) ~ ***


6) Chikara Grand Championship
Eddie Kingston(c) vs Hallowicked ~ ***3/4


7) Mike Quackenbush & Jushin Liger vs Jigsaw & The Shard ~ ***3/4



I'll probably never see the Dragon Gate: USA shows from the same weekend. Moot point knowing myself. Chikara stole WrestleCon weekend. It's shows like this that remind me why I love the promotion like I do.

I screamed, jumped, hollered, and all that jazz when Liger's music hit + came out. I have no shame in admitting this. BRILLIANT moment.
This review makes me feel bad about the fact that I was drinking a Margarita in Chile's about a half mile away when this show was taking place.

Disagree about Chikara stealing the weekend though. Dragon Gate on Saturday kicked so much ass. Also Freight Train vs.Mystery Man was a near 5* classic.
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