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JoeRulz · 02-08-2013, 05:38 AM

Storytelling, both inside and outside of ring, is Chikara's biggest strength. Almost no one touches them in that department.

Also, I like to think that haters "don't get" Chikara. Watching Chikara requires a mindset in it's own entity, you can't watch the product through the eyes of AJPW, NJPW, ROH, or even Lucha. Chikara is the best shit ever when you think of it as a whacky comic book la-la land, or a Dragonball episode.

**Obfuscation** · 02-08-2013, 05:53 AM

I think that's why it speaks to me so much.

**Seabs** · 02-08-2013, 05:57 AM

I "get" what it's supposed to be. It just doesn't appeal to my tastes. I love wacky fun wrestling but CHIKARA's the wrong side of it for me. The biggest turn off is the wrestling ability of most of the roster. Fantastic storytelling only really works if the wrestlers can deliver in the ring to compliment it. It's not like the CHIKARA guys I watched from 2012 were below the level of a Kingston or a Generico, they were just flat out bad.

Rah · 02-08-2013, 05:58 AM

I never had comic books as a kid. That probably explains it all...

**Obfuscation** · 02-08-2013, 06:00 AM

I bet if you wanted to go to the Wrestle Factory, Quackenbush would make you list your 5 favorite comics to see if you're qualified.

JoeRulz · 02-08-2013, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seabs

I "get" what it's supposed to be. It just doesn't appeal to my tastes. I love wacky fun wrestling but CHIKARA's the wrong side of it for me. The biggest turn off is the wrestling ability of most of the roster. Fantastic storytelling only really works if the wrestlers can deliver in the ring to compliment it. It's not like the CHIKARA guys I watched from 2012 were below the level of a Kingston or a Generico, they were just flat out bad.

Like I said, it's an entity on it's own, and I look it that way, I'm not busting my brains trying to compare it to other wrestling.

And wrestling IS storytelling anyway, so that makes many of them great wrestlers from my POV. Well, at least in the Chikara Land. Bunch of them is flawed in terms of crisp in-ring work, but they're protected by tremendous booking. That's the point of booking.

**Obfuscation** · 02-08-2013, 06:32 AM

I wouldn't go out and say a "bunch" of the roster is flawed or anything of the sort. Some clearly are though. (Kobald, Saturyne, Icarus) They do their part more often than not. Especially Icarus. When that guy shockingly becomes crisp in the odd match it's like: "you're constantly awesome as a character, but why can't you work like that more often?"

JoeRulz · 02-08-2013, 06:34 AM

Meh, the "bunch" part was probably an obvious exaggeration.

**Obfuscation** · 02-08-2013, 06:34 AM

Only covering some tracks here.

bigbuxxx · 02-09-2013, 04:43 AM

Just finished PWG's Ninety-Nine show and I have to say that was the worst PWG show I've ever watched. Everything but Bucks/MCMG and Danielson/Taylor was complete trash. So let down. Hopefully One Hundred is better.