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Old 02-06-2013, 09:45 PM   #7961 (permalink)
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Well to be fair when I saw they signed Ambrose I wondered what they were going to do with him ring-wise because honestly that was by far his weakest point in the indies. If Regal could pull a personality out of Reyes you might as well nickname him Jesus Christ because that would be a true miracle.
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He'd need a couple of miracles to turn around Reyes. Bland as can be on both fronts - in ring and personality.
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Well to be fair when I saw they signed Ambrose I wondered what they were going to do with him ring-wise because honestly that was by far his weakest point in the indies.
I disliked Moxley on the indies probably due to that. But, looking at his wrestling now, it's possibly my favourite part to him.

The way he transforms his gimmick into the match (at every point) is phenomenal. When he's with Regal he can really shine, because he just thrives within an old-school style match. When he fell onto his knees over his opponent's torso (I believe it was Rollins) and imitated stabbing them three times around the heart (a Mayan sacrifice in which three clean cuts must be made to sever each of the three pulmonary arteries) I marked like a little kid. The whole symbolism fitted him so well, and it's just something I hardly see being done nowadays.

It's all very well and good to have infinite technical experience but if there isn't any personality to add depth to it then it's just a one-dimensional novelty. I guess I'm saying that we shouldn't discredit someone before their opportunity is given. Regal's a phenomenal talent (he loved Ambrose's work, too) and if he sees something in Reyes then I'll give Reyes the opportunity to impress me.

Anyway, to change topic, here's some more Pokerface goodness for people to love. The run-in/end will probably lower the rating for most (it's almost on the cusp of being worthy of a nomination, imo) but it's still a fun, southern match, regardless.
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PWG - Best of 2012 (7 Discs)
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Disc 1
Young Bucks vs Davey Richards & Harry Smith - Kurt Russellreunion 3
Mascarita Dorada, Candace LaRae, B-Boy & Cedric Alexander vs Joey Ryan, Peter Avalon, Ray Rosas & DEMUS 316 - Kurt Russellreunion 3
CIMA & Ricochet vs RockNES Monsters - Kurt Russellreunion 3
Kevin Steen, Super Dragon & Akira Tozawa vs El Generico, PAC & Masato Yoshino - Kurt Russellreunion 3
Young Bucks vs Super Smash Brothers vs RockNES Monsters - World's Finest
Kevin Steen vs El Generico vs Eddie Edwards - PWG World Championship - World's Finest

Disc 2
Fightin' Taylor Boys vs RockNES Monsters - DDT4 2012
El Generico & Willie Mack vs Roderick Strong & Sami Callihan - DDT4 2012
Young Bucks vs Super Smash Brothers - DDT4 2012
Super Smash Brothers vs Future Shock - DDT4 2012
Kevin Steen vs Sami Callihan - PWG World Championship - DDT4 2012
Super Smash Brothers vs El Generico & Willie Mack - PWG World Tag Team Championships - DDT4 2012

Disc 3
B-Boy vs Famous B - Death To All But Metal
Kevin Steen vs Brian Cage - PWG World Championship - Death To All But Metal
Young Bucks vs Super Smash Brothers - No DQ - PWG World Tag Team Championships - Death To All But Metal
Michael Elgin vs Willie Mack - Death To All But Metal
El Generico vs Ricochet - Death To All But Metal
Roderick Strong vs TJ Perkins - Threemendous III

Disc 4
Kevin Steen vs Willie Mack - PWG World Championship - Threemendous III
B-Boy vs Drake Younger - Threemendous III
Sami Callihan vs Michael Elgin - Threemendous III
Super Smash Brothers vs Young Bucks vs Future Shock - Ladder Match - PWG World Tag Team Championships - Threemendous III
Roderick Strong vs Drake Younger - BOLA 2012 Night 1
Kevin Steen vs Ricochet - BOLA 2012 Night 1

Disc 5
Sami Callihan vs Willie Mack - BOLA 2012 Night 1
El Generico vs Adam Cole - BOLA 2012 Night 1
Davey Richards vs Michael Elgin - BOLA 2012 Night 1
Adam Cole vs Eddie Edwards - BOLA 2012 Night 2
Ricochet vs Roderick Strong - BOLA 2012 Night 2
Ricochet vs Michael Elgin - BOLA 2012 Night 2
El Generico, Rick Knox & Kevin Steen vs Young Bucks & Brian Cage - BOLA 2012 Night 2

Disc 6
Adam Cole vs Michael Elgin - BOLA 2012 Night 2
Eddie Edwards vs Michael Elgin - Failure To Communicate
Sami Callihan vs Davey Richards - Failure To Communicate
Roderick Strong vs Rich Swann - Failure To Communicate
Young Bucks vs El Generico & Kenny Omega - Failure To Communicate

Disc 7
Kevin Steen vs Michael Elgin vs Ricochet - PWG World Championship - Failure To Communicate
Young Bucks vs Roderick Strong & Eddie Edwards - Mystery Vortex
Sami Callihan vs Drake Younger - Mystery Vortex
Brian Cage vs Willie Mack vs TJ Perkins vs B-Boy - Mystery Vortex
El Generico vs Rich Swann - Mystery Vortex
Super Smash Brothers vs Roderick Strong & Eddie Edwards - Mystery Vortex
Kevin Steen vs Adam Cole - Guerrilla Warfare Match - Mystery Vortex
PM me if anyone is interested in purchasing.
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Tag Team Match:
The Young Bucks vs. Roderick Strong & Eddie Edwards: ****

Best Of 3 Series
- Match #1:
Sami Callihan vs. Drake Younger: ***1/2

World Tag Team Titles:

The Super Smash Bros© vs. The RockNES Monsters: ***1/2

Joey Ryan's Final Match:

Joey Ryan vs. Scorpio Sky: ***1/4

4 Way Match:
Brian Cage vs. B-Boy vs. TJ Perkins vs. Willie Mack: ***1/2

Singles Match:
El Generico vs. Rich Swann: ***1/2

Non Title Tag Team Match:
The Super Smash Bros vs. Roderick Strong & Eddie Edwards: ****

PWG World Title Guerrilla Warfare:
Kevin Steen© vs. Adam Cole: ****1/4



Show of the freakin' year, and that says a LOT. Guerrilla 4 lyfe.
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So...am I the only guy here who's not particularly sweet on Willie Mack?

Good match vs Hero at BOLA. That's about it.
I'm not either. There have been a couple of his matches that I really liked but otherwise I'm not a huge fan at all.

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Didn't Chikara place the couple in the front row purely to allow the baby to be seen on the DVD and thus give the allure that they really are a family product? That'd be my guess, anyway.

Plus sides to Chikara? It funds Botchamania. Yeah, that's about it.
Chikara really is family friendly. I've been to there shows and they have more kids at them then other indy shows that go to.

I get why someone wouldn't be a fan of them. I like Chikara but I don't think it's indy wrestling perfection like some of their fans do. I also don't think I would follow them if I couldn't make it to their shows once in a while. Chikara builds to these really awesome moments and that's why I like them so much. And those moments are not the same when you watch them on a screen. The company has it's faults but it they always books things that lead up to an awesome conclusion. Their big matches always mean something and have been in the making for months, if not years.
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It's the storytelling that makes me mark often for Chikara. Not to say I find the work inside the ropes to lack or not do it for me (b/c it does), but it's sooooo much on the stories they come up with. Enthralls me to care about the big matches. About the characters and how they develop throughout a season or two.

To know the entire BDK angle was set into motion from what appeared to be a botch between a Shane Storm vs Hydra singles match in late 2007 - Wow. It's insane how intricate that is. I dig it.
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Chikara really is family friendly. I've been to there shows and they have more kids at them then other indy shows that go to.

I get why someone wouldn't be a fan of them. I like Chikara but I don't think it's indy wrestling perfection like some of their fans do. I also don't think I would follow them if I couldn't make it to their shows once in a while. Chikara builds to these really awesome moments and that's why I like them so much. And those moments are not the same when you watch them on a screen. The company has it's faults but it they always books things that lead up to an awesome conclusion. Their big matches always mean something and have been in the making for months, if not years.
Allure was the wrong word for me to have used. It is family friendly. I rather meant that perhaps they wanted that family-friendly atmosphere to be highlighted on their DVD.

As for my criticism of the promotion, it has some great moments and some bad moments. Whenever I've tried to get into it I follow it for a while then completely go off the product. Perhaps it's because it's such a storyline driven product that just going in there, trying to pick things up on the fly (without giving it much time to do so) is detrimental to my enjoyment of it but then so be it, I suppose. I'm a major fan of drama entertainment but, inversely, I'm more prone to finding out certain matches from promotions than following each event and, when it comes to Chikara, I find they have a lot of fun matches but not consistently great matches.

I think PWG is the only promotion I get every event of (except their December show), actually.
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Not PWG level consistent with the great matches. I'd slate them as number two in that category for an American Indie promotion. Trumping others like CZW, DGUSA, ROH, etc.
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