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Just finished watching MV and some thoughts:

Originally Posted by Seabs View Post
Eddie completely no selling SSB's finisher really wound me up too.
Same and not to mention a couple other high impact moves that looked like they should've done the job and he just kicks out without Strong getting him out. I preferred SSB/Rockness to this one.

Spoiler for Steen/Cole nitpick:
I was bothered that after what seemed like 30 seconds Cole seemed to no sell all the shit on the floor in the beginning of the match and just do his thing. It also bothered me that the big spot didn't end it. Another thing I was bothered by was Cole hitting like 3 moves and winning after getting up from the big spot. I mean how can you finish that match off after you blow your wad on that spot? From a star rating point I'd give this like ***1/2 but in entertainment it was *****.

This has to be the show of the year. Even though I didn't like the workrate/selling/over the top finishes in a few matches this show was incredibly entertaining and I don't recall watching a more entertaining show than this in quite some time.
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Dominion and King Of Pro Wrestling were definitely better. Probably the best PWG show fo 2012 even though I'm not as high on it as some.

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ROH Tuesday Rollout. Some really, really odd choices on here and some disappointing ones that have been on shit tons of dvds. But it's got CAGE OF DEATH!!!

There are many faces to Ring of Honor: the pure wrestling, the high flying exhibitions, and state of the art tag team wrestling. Yet there is one face that, well infrequently seen, looms just as tall. It is a bloody face, one scarred by chairs, tables, and ladders, one born in the fires of what the legendary Mick Foley dubbed "The Ring of Hardcore"!

This 2-Disc, 19 match collection highlights the darker side of ROH, the brutal and unforgiving side where Homicide & Steve Corino collided in a Barbed Wire Match, where a battle of The Second City Saints & The Prophecy resulted in a chair riot, and where the Ladder War was christened with the blood of Kevin Steen, El Generico, and The Briscoes. Colt Cabana, Samoa Joe, Jimmy Jacobs, BJ Whitmer, and Jerry Lynn have all made their pilgrimage to this land where the body is pushed to its limit, its tolerance for pain is truly tested, and all wear a crimson mask. Yes, this is ROH, but this isn't Ring of Honor. This is the Ring of Hardcore....

Disc 1
1. Da Hit Squad vs. The Carnage Crew (Boston Massacre Match)...Honor Invades Boston 8/24/02
2. Homicide vs. Steve Corino (Barbed Wire Match)...War of the Wire 11/29/03
3. Samoa Joe vs. Jay Briscoe (ROH World Title Steel Cage Match)...At Our Best 3/13/04
4. The Carnage Crew vs. Special K (Scramble Cage II)...At Our Best 3/13/04
5. CM Punk & Ace Steel vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer (Chicago Street Fight)...Death Before Dishonor II Pt. 2 7/24/04
6. BJ Whitmer & Dan Maff vs. The Carnage Crew (Boston Street Fight)...Weekend of Thunder Night 1 11/5/04
7. The Carnage Crew vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer (Fight Without Honor)...Final Battle 2004 12/26/04
8. Homicide vs. Colt Cabana (Chicago Street Fight)...Better Than Our Best 4/1/06
9. Team ROH vs. Team CZW (Cage of Death)...Death Before Dishonor IV 7/15/06

Disc 2
10. BJ Whitmer vs. The Necro Butcher (Barbed Wire Match)...War of the Wire II 7/28/06
11. Homicide vs. Adam Pearce (Steel Cage Match)...Chicago Spectacular Night 2 12/9/06
12. BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs (Last Man Standing Match)...Battle of the Icons 1/27/07
13.. Roderick Strong, Rocky Romero, Davey Richards, & Matt Sydal defeated Austin Aries, Delirious, Erick Stevens, & Matt Cross (Philadelphia Street Fight)...Death Before Dishonor V Night 2 8/11/07
14. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Kevin Steen & El Generico (Ladder War)...Man Up 9/15/07
15. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. The Necro Butcher & Joey Matthews (Street Fight)...Take No Prisoners 3/16/08
16. The Necro Butcher vs. Jimmy Jacobs (No DQ Match)...Take No Prisoners 2009 4/4/09
17. Kenny King vs. Jerry Lynn (No DQ Match)...From The Ashes 3/26/10
18. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino vs. El Generico & Colt Cabana (Steel Cage Match)...ROH on HDNet Episode 80
19. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. The All Night Express (Ladder War III)...Death Before Dishonor IX 9/17/11


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I'll just do a quick review,might do a detailed one tomorrow. Maybe write up the MOTYC.

Dojo Bros vs The Young Bucks

Really fun and great opener,one of the best openers in recent memory. Young Bucks are Immense. Both Strong and Edwards show why they excel as tag wrestlers. Sick finish. I second Seabs on the Bucks being best act of 2012.


Sami Callihan vs Drake Younger.

I don't care what anyone says Younger is plain horrible. Easily the worst on the PWG roster. I'm not Sami's biggest fan but I can tolerate him given the right opponent but Drake brought out the worst in him. Edwards/Richards from BITW is a masterpiece compared to this. Hated it. Maybe * star for the apron spot. I'm not watching another Drake match ever again. Actually it doesn't even deserve a star. Pointless stiffness, horrible bumping from Drake, poor Sami performance. Stay away at all costs. -DUD

RockNes Monsters vs Super Smash Brothers (C)

"The PWG titles being the ugliest in professional wrestling" Everyone loves SSB and I'm a fan of RockNes, more so Goodtime. Still find it hard to buy into them as heels,even though Goodtime has a great heel beard. No matter how much I see the "Get Over Here" belly to belly into the corner I still mark. Love it. Nice little match.


Joey Ryan vs Scorpio Sky

A nice send off to one of the best heels to ever graze an Indy ring.I think I'm in the minority that will be sad to see Joey leave. The match its self was enjoyable. Some nice nostalgic touches in the match like the lioncock and stuff. I've read that some skipped the match. If you skip any match it should be the Younger one.


I'll watch the rest tomorrow. Very fun show so far. Only gonna get better too.
Just continuing my review from yesterday.

B-Boy vs TJP vs Brian Cage-Taylor vs Willie Mack

TJ is a fucking ninja, Brian Cage Taylor is an animal,Willie Mack is always fun to watch and B-Boy is passable in multi-men matches. WOW. PWG need more four way matches and TJ has to be in all of them. The TJ spot where Cage catches him is probably my favorite spot of 2012. Really well done,frantic paced and innovative match. ****+

El Generico vs Rich Swann

Rich Swann is so impressive. I can see him going the same route as Ricochet and evolving from a great highflyer just to a all round fantastic wrestler. He's great to watch and what more can I say about Generico. I'm finding it hard to remember his last PWG match I rated under 4 stars. Loved Generico heeling it up as the veteran. Please give me more Swann in PWG. Marked so much for the finish. ****-****1/4

Super Smash Brothers vs Dojo Bros

I regret so much not watching this show unspoiled. I just can't help myself though. Really nice tag match here, nice to see the Dojo Bros heel it up. Didn't reach the lofty heights as the opener but still had a lot of good stuff in there. Roddys suplex into his knees is so cringey. Anyway bout **** stars I'd say.

Kevin Steen (c)vs Adam Cole -Guerrilla Warfare

CRAZY stuff from the get go with Cole taking one insane beating.Really brought the hate. Real simple and well worked story combined with some insane spots. at Steen kissing Knox. As I said Cole takes an insane beating,he bumped like a mad man. The tower of chairs spot was just plain nuts. Worked the stipulation very well and had a great match.


Awesome show from top to bottom and the best I've seen in 2012. Just the skip the one certain aforementioned match. Some great stuff in there.


@Hailsabin. You said

Enjoyable enough match for me thanks to the actions of Callihan alone and nothing by the opponent.
What exactly were this actions by Sami that made the match enjoyable? His stupid pointless stiffing, his non existent selling or horrible facial expressions? He was nearly as bad as Younger. This to me is probably the worst match I've seen this year. As people said it's either you'll hate it or love it.

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"Joey Ryan, this, is SERIOUS!"

Those words tell the entire story about Steen/Cole instant epic cult classic.
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The delayed senton bump off the apron was the worst I've seen for a long time
Yeah that was the worst. The rest of the match was pretty good but I seriously cringed and got mad when he did that. If anything makes wrestling look more fake, that's it.
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XPW Baptized In Blood I

- Supreme vs Kid Kaos
- *
- This was horrible. I like Kaos, he's one of the maybe 5 or 6 guys from XPW who I liked. Supreme, on the other hand. I mean, does he even have any training?

- Johnny Webb vs Messiah
- ***
- Honestly this is probably the best match on the show, and even then it's passable.

- Kronus vs Carlito Montana
- *.5
- Kronus was okay in his prime. He's past his prime here. Another generic, totally forgettable match.

- Axl Rotten vs Homeless Jimmy
- *
- I'm not sure, but during Axl Rotten's entrance, he was letting fans touch the barbed wire axe handles, and I think one of them was Youth Suicide. That's probably the most interesting thing about this match.

- Cronic vs JN (or JM? couldn't hear it well)
- N/A
- Non tournament match. Skipped it.

- Supreme vs Messiah
- *
- Again, Supreme has no business being anywhere near a wrestling ring, never mind being in it.

----I stopped watching at this point.

- Why did I buy this? Watching this made me realize that I really need to re-evaluate my life. Everything I saw sucked, and the commentary was a whole new level of horrible. I could have downloaded this for free, and still feel like I was ripped off. The second tournament came with this, but honestly this show has turned me off from even attempting it.

Man, I'm getting horrible flashbacks just reading this review. Before I watched it I thought it couldn't be as bad as I had heard. But goddamn, this was one awful show. The commentary sucked, the matches sucked, the audio sucked (couldn't hear shit)etc.. One of the worst shows I've ever seen. I still have the second tournament to watch, along with After The Fall Vol. 1 & 2 -_- Oh boy..

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Hey, at least their production crew were well-vested in self-satire and pathos. They have to be, if they began the event with a disclaimer stating:
Warning: XPW employs highly skilled wrestlers to perform complex and dangerous manuevers for it's wrestling events

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Just saw the Last of McGuinness and it was sad as fuck. I shed a few tears.

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Originally Posted by geraldinhio View Post
@Hailsabin. You said

What exactly were this actions by Sami that made the match enjoyable? His stupid pointless stiffing, his non existent selling or horrible facial expressions? He was nearly as bad as Younger. This to me is probably the worst match I've seen this year. As people said it's either you'll hate it or love it.
Everything that makes Sami excellent. That's what did it.

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