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Live thoughts from 2CW's Highway to Hell

Cheech vs. Pepper Parks
-Solid enough opener
-Parks had a cheering section of a bunch of pre-teen girls. I wanted to murder them all

Isys Ephex vs. Jason Axe(If Isys wins he gets a title shot in Binghamton. If Axe wins, him and Spike get a title shot in Binghamton)
-You might recoginize Axe from his appearence in a YLC qualifier at Smack in the Middle but then again you probably don't
-Isys has been on a winning streak and has been eyeing a title shot the whole time
-Watertown didn't feel like showing up so these guys didn't have much to work with
-These two have had 2 extremely bloody matches against each other this year so the match with the most at stake so far for these guys without a hardcore element felt odd
-Isys broke the bottom rope during this match
-Isys wins so he will get a 2CW Heavyweight title match in Binghamton

Strive To Survive: ZS3/Colin Delaney/Sean Carr/Kage/Loca Vida vs. Matt Milan/Marcos/Dick Justice/Pete D. Order/EMT
-So here's the gist:Kage and Carr are a tag team known as Team CK, Dick/Pete/EMT are a group of fatties that play cops(EMT is actually a medic but who cares) and Dick might be the funniest wrestler in 2CW, and ZS3 and Matt Milan have been feuding
-This is a Survivor Series type match
-The rope is fixed during the match so no time was really used up in order to get the bottom rope fixed
-They trade eliminations quickly until its down to ZS3/Colin and Milan/Marcos
-From there the match is pretty good

Slyck Wagner Brown vs. MASADA
-Hardest hitting match of the night
-Two bigger indy guys going at it is always a unique sight to see
-Masada loses whatever keeps his hair from going all over the plays and that shit is everywhere
-Good match

Super Smash Bros. vs. Sami Callihan/Rich Swann(2CW TAG TEAM TITLE MATCH)
-SSB come to the ring and then they go to announce Sami and Swann and they don't show up. I'm about to flip. They announce that SSB's challengers are the Super Smash Bros. and Sami and Swann come out in SSB's gear with Sami being Player Uno and Swann being Player Dos. IT WAS SO AWESOME
-They play with this the entire match where they pretend not to know Player Uno or Player Dos is on their respective team. And both teams actually swapped corners I believe 3 times in the match
-Dos busts his nose in this match
-At one point Sami had his mask removed and the entire building was like OMG! And Player Uno says "YOU'RE NOT PLAYER UNO!"
-Both the comedy and the action were great

DJ Hyde vs. The After Party
-DJ Hyde showing up was not announced. He gives a speech about him being the greatest ever and mocking The After Party(A tag team that had never wrestled in 2CW before so I just referred to them as The Job Squad)
-SQUASH CITY!!! So Hyde drops one of them on their head with a sleeper german I think and kills the other with a lariat all while no selling literally everything The After Party did
-I don't know where this is going if anywhere but I'll be honest it almost peaked my interest, not in DJ Hyde but why the hell 2CW had him come when 75% of the audience didn't know who he was

Cherry Bomb vs. Addy Starr
-Cherry Bomb is the woman of 2CW right now when it use to be Portia Perez
-I had never seen Addy Starr before and I can say I wanna see her back in 2CW. Maybe for the Girls Grand Prix 2
-Good woman's match and having Cherry looking strong against all comers and Rachel Summerlyn still the first GGP winner and other top female wrestlers laying in wait could make for a very interesting GGP2 in May

Demolition vs. Killer Steves vs. First Class
-All you need to know is this is 2CW's big old time wrestling showcase aka the match or segment involving a big name from the past to bring in the locals. Demolition was lots of fun though even if the crowd sucked

Kevin Steen vs. Spike Dudley(2CW HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH)
-This was a match for the 2CW fans at the end of the day
-A brawl around the venue that made this match which hasn't been seen in 2CW for quite some time even though earlier in 2CW's history crowd brawling was almost guaranteed on every show
-Spike starts this match off like a mad man, grabbing chairs from fans and hitting Steen like it was no big deal
-Big Spots included a dive by Spike from a storage container to Steen on the floor and Spike going for a Sliced Bread#2 on the outside through a table but Steen pushing Spike off him through the table mid-move
-Jason Axe would interfere during this match as the ref was down and hit Spike with a chair(a man he is facing in Binghamton as well as having a long violent history with him). Steen goes for the cover and only gets 2
-My Favorite Part of the match: Steen says "Oh yeah lets go Spike"*Lifts Spike up for the Package Piledriver*"SPIKE"*Spikes Spike on his head with the Package Piledriver* End of match
-Fun chaotic brawl with Spike in his return delivering big time and Steen thriving in the environment

OVERALL: Good show. Not the best I've seen from 2CW and the usually awesome crowd fell flat but hopefully that changes tomorrow night, or I guess it would be tonight now, in Binghamton

This here is the second reason for this post. 2CW announced the first two matches for their first ever iPPV on April 20,2013 in Watertown: 1)Sami Callihan vs. Matt Hardy 2)Eddie Edwards vs. John Morrison

Now I'm excited to see these matches live but if they weren't in 2CW where they are easy for me to go to I'm not quite sure if these matches would sell me on the iPPV. If nothing else it looks like it doesn't matter if they are in EVOLVE or ROH, 2CW is putting them on iPPV.

2CW has tried making a point that they don't need anyone elses help besides the fans in making this event a success and that scares me greatly since most of their fans are rednecks and think 2CW is truly the best independent promotion there is and that all other promotions are crap. It isn't the best. Its a lot of fun and puts on some unique matches you might not be able to get other places but it isn't the best. The first 2 matches will likely bring in the live crowd and it will be the biggest live attendance for a show probably but to me personally those matches don't look like iPPV selling matches. But that could just be me
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PCW Blood, Sweat & Beers

Noam Dar vs Zack Sabre Jr. vs Dean Allmark vs Joey Hayes

Bubblegum vs Greg Burridge

Kris Travis vs Lionheart - I Quit Match

Disco Madness vs Dave Rayne & Terry Frazier

Shaun Davis vs Val Kabious

T-Bone vs Johnny Moss vs Mark Haskins - PCW Championship

Another entertaining show even if the stars don't suggest as much. Bonus points for the ridiculous Health and Safety skit even if they quickly lost them by having a main event involving T-Bone and Johnny Moss.
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Have we heard the Ricky Reyes to WWE rumours?

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PWG Against the Grain ~ 10/2/09

Johnny Goodtime vs. Brandon Gatson vs. Malachi Jackson vs. Brandon Cutler
**1/2 ~FUN!

Kenny King vs. Davey Richards

Scott Lost vs. Joey Ryan

Brian Kendrick vs. Roderick Strong

Dustin Cutler vs. Shane Haste vs. Jerome Robinson vs. Charles Mercury

El Generico vs. Chris Hero

PWG World Tag Team Titles
The Young Bucks vs. Men of a Low Moral Fiber
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ROH: The Rise of Genertaion Next Review

Quick Thoughts: Man, it's so unreal seeing where all of these guys are in their careers right now and the success that they've built for themselves, such an underrated faction. This was a great set really showing how GenNext came to be with lots of milestones thrown in. While I enjoyed the hell out of this set, I still want a new best of set though lol.

Disc 1:
Aries, Strong and Evans vs. Dixie, Izzy & Angel Dust (5/22/2004)- **
Alex Shelley vs. Hydro (5/22/2004)- **1/2
Aries, Shelley, Strong & Evans vs. Jay, Mark, Walters & Rave (5/22/2004)- ****1/2
Aries, Shelley & Strong vs. Stryker, Rave & Walters (6/12/2004)- ***1/4
Roderick Strong & Jack Evans vs. Dixie & Izzy (7/17/2004)- **
Aries, Strong & Evans vs. Stryker, Walters & Evans (7/23/2004)- ***3/4
Roderick Strong & Jack Evans vs. Stryker & Walter (7/24/2004)- **1/2
Austin Aries vs. CM Punk (9/11/2004)- **
Aries, Shelley & Evans vs. Punk, Steel & Jacobs (10/15/2004)- ***
Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. CM Punk & Ace Steel (11/6/2004)- ***

Disc 2:
Alex Shelley vs. Jack Evans (2/26/2005)- **
Austin Aries vs. Alex Shelley (5/7/2005)- ****+
Alex Shelley vs. Roderick Strong (6/4/2005)- ***1/2
Aries, Strong & Sydal vs. Rave, Shelley & Abyss (8/12/2005)- ***1/2
Aries, Strong & Evans vs. Rave, Shelley & Abyss (10/15/2005)- ***1/2
Aries, Evans, Sydal & Styles vs. Rave, Shelley, Nana & Abyss (11/5/2005)- ***3/4
Aries, Strong, Evans & Sydal vs. Rave, Shelley, Nana & Abyss (12/3/2005)- ****1/4

I for Matt Hardy (A Matt Hardy guy since '99):
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Among my the 5 PWG DVDs I purchased for $40 was Seven. I'll put a full review of the show up later, but right now, I just want to comment on the main event. I hardly ever enjoy 3-way tag matches, and violent chaotic brawls only work for me most of the time when they're one-on-one, but this match worked beautifully. Maybe it was because the small venue meant they had to keep everything in one general area, but this never felt like a mess, and everything hit like I imagine it was supposed to. Even Paul London, who I always watch with a bit of trepidation post-WWE, did really well in his role, and pulled off some amazing spots. I know I'm about two years late to this party, but I loved this.
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Dragon Gate USA - Fearless 2012 iPPV

Johnny Gargano vs. EITA - **3/4

D.U.F. (Arik Cannon & Pinkie Sanchez) vs. The Scene (Caleb Konley & Scott Reed) - *1/2

Sami Callihan vs. Samuray Del Sol - ***

Captainís Fall Match
Rich Swann, CIMA & ACH vs. The Gentelmenís Club (Chuck Taylor, Drew Gulak & Orange Cassidy) - **1/2

Akira Tozawa vs. Jon Davis - ***1/2

Winners gets Open The United Gate title shot
Ryo Saito & Genki Horiguchi vs. The Super Smash Brothers (Players Uno & Dos) - ***1/2

Respect Match
Ricochet vs. A.R. Fox - ***1/2

Show was overall enjoyable & consistent minus the boring dragging anchors of DGUSA in the Scene & D.U.F. and the disappointing Captain's Match which didn't touch the first one at Chasing The Dragon. Another quiet crowd hurt the matches a bit but the last three matches mostly delivered and EITA impressed in his match with Gargano.

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NSPW - Kickoff 2012

1. Kevin Steen vs Matt Falco vs Simon Martel

2. Finlay vs Marko Estrada

Wish NSPW would go to more trouble to make some proper production upgrades because their shows look awful on DVD...


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ROH Revolution Canada ~ 5/7/11

Kyle O'Reilley vs. Claudio Castagnoli

Steve Corino vs. Mike Bennett

Double Danger Scramble
Grizzly Redwood vs. Andy Ridge vs. Rhett Titus vs. Adam Cole vs. Tommasso Ciampa vs. Michael Elgin
***3/4 ~ MAYHEM! Loved the finish.

Davey Richards vs. Kenny King
*** ~ Botched finish brought it down tons.

Colt Cabana vs. Delirious
As Many Stars As There Are In The Universe Couldn't Do This Match Justice

El Generico vs. Christopher Daniels

ROH Tag Team Championships
Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team vs. The Briscoe Brothers

ROH World Championship
Eddie Edwards vs. Chris Hero

Great show especially for the main event and double danger scramble. Cabana/Delirious was hilarios and a great tribute to Larry Sweeney. I give this show a thumbs up, the only problem is that the show is a little long running nearly 3 and a half hours.

I'm probably gonna watch ROH Good Times Great Memories tonight, so if anyone can throw their ratings up for that show it'd be cool. Briscoes vs. MCMG sounds amazing on paper and the same goes for Shingo vs. Morishima.
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Live thought from 2CW's Gas Into Fire in Binghamton,NY

Veda Scott vs. Cherry Bomb(Special Guest Referee EMT)
-EMT and Cherry Bomb sort of have a feud
-EMT is fat as hell
-Cherry probably has 10 or so pin attempts that EMT doesn't count as he goes to yell at fans
-After Cherry Bomb super kicks EMT Veda Scott takes advantage and EMT is able to make the super fast count
-Decent match and since everyone and their mother's are a fan of Cherry it was a decent choice for the opener

Slyck Wagner Brown vs. Colin Delaney
-Everytime I see Colin I hope for the love of Pete that Chikara brings him back and I was hoping so badly that Chikara would have a 2CW showcase with some of the former Chikara guys. But yeah, the dude is talented and knows how to show it a lot better than he did at the beginning of his 2CW run
-Slyck was super over for some reason
-A particularly awesome spot was when Colin went for a suicide dive and Slyck caught Colin in a fireman's carry position and then flipped Colin around into a tombstone position and hit it on the outside. It was pretty darn awesome
-Really good match, Colin is the most consistent midcard guy 2CW has and puts on short and sweet matches for the fans to get behind
-Colin loses and continues his losing streak. I don't know where this losing streak is heading but I think we will find out by Living on the Edge weekend(2CW's biggest weekend of the year)

STRIVE TO SURVIVE:Kevin Graham/Punisher VanSlyke/Pete D. Order/Dick Justice vs. Pepper Parks/Loca Vida/The Killer Steves
-This is a 4 vs. 4 elimination tag match unlike last night's, which was 5 on 5
-Graham and Parks are the captains
-Alex Colan was suppose to be on Parks' team and EMT was suppose to be on Graham's but Colan must not have made it saddly
-The 4 on 4 set up worked better here since wrestlers weren't just coming in getting about 2 minutes of stuff in and then getting eliminated until it was down in numbers. Each fall felt like enough work had been done to get it
-The local 2CW guys do much better with each other than they usually do with outside talent like a SSB or Steen. I say this because if you watch First Class(Graham and Pun) or a Vida with outside talent they look awkward but here they look just fine. That doesn't mean they are superstars waiting to happen or anything but they aren't as bland in the ring as you would think when watching matches with them against bigger name indy guys
-Cool spots include:Loca Vida doing a summersault off the top rope to a group of guys on the outside,Graham looking like he is about to dive on a group of guys only to stop short for the psych out which leads his partner Pun to press him up and toss him over against his will, and Pun lifting Loca into a stalling butterfly suplex where he holds him probably close to 30 seconds then double clutches it for ultimate little man tossing fun
-I would say this match had better pacing than last night even though the ending with Graham and Parks was not as good as the night before

Sami Callihan/Rich Swann vs. 3.0 vs. Planet Fitness(Cheech/"Muscle" Marcos)
-Planet Fitness was added since they were scheduled for the show and by no means did they hinder this match and if anything them as heels added to it
-This is a return match for 3.0 having wrestled in 2CW once against The Olsens for the 2CW Tag Team Titles
-If you like your wrestling serious then though this match was fast paced and spotty enough for the people who love that sort of thing, it was incredibly carefree and simply fun
-Sami comes down to the ring with a plastic fork, Parker stole the shake weight from Marcos, Marcos has is leg press thing and we have a stand off
-Sami would take the shake weight and we get a "Shake" chant going
-Sami stabs Marcos in the stomach with the fork and it breaks into a million pieces.Awesome
-Other Awesome moments include:Sami Stabbing Marcos again with another fork and it shattering again, a dance off between Swann and Parker, Sami and Swann simultaneously doing dives on opposite sides of the ring, Sami dropping Shane Matthews over the steel guardrails and into my lap, a 5-man tower of doom, and every team hitting big moves toward the end(PF with a Air Raid Crash/Piledriver, 3.0 with a pop up then spear, and Sami/Swann with a Scissor Kick/Shoulder Breaker)

-This match was odd
-The pace was okay because it seemed like Isys was about to get a real comeback after Steen had stopped it everytime but Jason Axe would come out to interfere. Isys notices though and flips to the outside onto Axe
-Steen has time to recover and hits Isys as he is on the top rope. Isys pushes Steen off after a failed superplex
-This leads to Steen essentially hugging the ref so he can't do anything and Axe actually interfering
-Steen takes advantage and hits the Package Piledriver for the win
-I find it odd that they have this whole thing where Isys wants to earn his shot by beating top contenders and has been doing so since April but when he finally gets it it ends like this. Why Axe interfered I don't know. Maybe because he is pissed with Isys for winning the night prior but since it looks like him and Spike are going to be going at it for a bit I don't think that it was necessary for him to do
-This makes Steen 2-0 this weekend because of Axe interfering and either there is something going on with them or it just so happens the people Steen was facing, Axe hated

DJ Hyde vs. Spike Dudley vs. Jason Axe vs. Masada
-There was a lot about this match that didn't make sense but that's okay
-Was suppose to be Spike vs. Axe but Hyde came out instead of Axe. The crowd boos LOUD partially because of Hyde but a lot because they wanted Spike vs. Axe
-Spike's pissed and wants to know where Axe is and Hyde just says that he is better than anyone so it doesn't matter
-Spike then takes the microphone from Hyde and says he wants Axe and goes on to hit Hyde in the head with the mic while it was still on
-When Hyde takes control Masada comes running out and attacking Hyde
-While Masada and Hyde are brawling Axe comes out and him and Spike go at it
-This match is a chaotic brawl reminiscent of 2CW of old
-Spike and Axe disappeared at somepoint only leaving Hyde and Masada. The crowd dies a bit at this point since 1)Spike vs. Axe is big with the crowd and 2)The local crowd has never seen Masada or Hyde and don't know why they should be excited
-Masada has a chair set up and looks like he is going to suplex Hyde right on it but Hyde does a small package and its over
-This won't be very memorable. Lots of throwing of chairs and guys tossing each other around but this match was missing any big spots

Demolition vs. Team CK
-This was 2CW's almost mandatory big name match
-Unlike last night Demolition gets a HUGE ovation but so does the local team of Team CK
-Smash yells that he is going to kick a fans teeth in a few times
-About as good of a match as you can expect with Demolition but the crowd being hot didn't hurt anything
-Hottest crowd of the night and it felt like the main event

OVERALL: 2CW is not what you think of as a top tier indy promotion. When you think of those you think of Chikara or PWG or DGUSA. 2CW is like a mash up of your typical indy promotion and a top tier indy promotion. A typical indy promotion usually has legends to draw fans and is made up of local talent. A top tier indy promotion has guys like Ricochet,Davey Richards,Sami Callihan,Michael Elgin, and Kevin Steen to draw fans to the show. 2CW does both of these things because Upstate NY isn't a huge internet wrestling fan area. It is more made up of WWE,TNA,ECW and WCW fans.I wouldn't want to listen to most of their opinions on wrestling but because of of them not being internet fans, the crowd seems to get a more lively feel then you would find at a DGUSA show. American Legion post 80 is like 2CW's K-Hall. This show looked like it was going to have a low attendance since about 10 minutes before the start there was about 1/2 as many people as usual but in those 10 minutes the other half certainly came through that door. The show was a shade under 2.5 hours compared to the night prior which was 3.5 hours. Another really fun night of wrestling with a good amount of variety. Maybe it isn't the best show and like a lot of earlier 2CW shows it geared more to the live audience than the DVD buyers but with the card I can't blame them. I'm hoping my friend brings me some of his 2CW DVDs so I can review them leading up to the April 20th iPPV.
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