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Good to see i'm not the only who who was annoyed by the influx of ROH guys on the PWG show. Elgin doing that well in the tournament? C'mon. Brian Cage really could have flourished with this tournament. Or Callihan moreso than he did. (I'm implying FINALS for those who weren't aware) Where were the rest of the PWG crew? SSB, RockNES Monsters, Ryan Taylor, or Scorpio Sky? Those guys should have been there over Davey, Edwards, & Elgin.

Saw the card for the upcoming PWG show too. World Title doesn't need to be a 3 way. Callihan vs Richards too. Oh they better put the right guy over in that one. Don't be dumb PWG. LET SAMI WIN.

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Um, I'm not sure if you realized this but Cage really isn't that good yet. Elgin, on the other hand, is. It was a safer bet to have the tournament around Elgin then it would of been for Cage who isn't all there yet. I sumwhat agree on the Triple Threat being unnecessary but it does have it's backing for happening. Ricochet pinned the World champ and Elgin was the guy that beat the guy who beat the World champion.....guy. Plus it works out since Elgin/Ricochet, Ricochet/Elgin, and apparently Elgin/Steen have all been great freaking matches. A three way seems almost like a prefect draw.

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Watched Night 1 of BOLA...

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Joey Ryan vs. TJ Perkins
I actually kind of enjoyed this. Kind of entertaining mostly because of Ryan and his schtick but TJP does have some stuff that seems to always impress me, despite his lack of any emotion or character. Thing with Joey‘s ass actually made me laugh. **

Roderick Strong vs. Drake Younger
Based off of the last Younger match in PWG (only match I’d seen from him) I fucking can’t stand him. This was a damn sight better because he’s in there with Roddy who is really good in this. This was actually really fun unlike the B-Boy match because Strong controls it with attempted comebacks from Younger until the end when Younger gets tons of his shit in but then Roddy just demolishes him. Non of the no-selling or ridiculous overkill (well, some overkill on Younger‘s part) of the B-Boy match. Younger is legit bad though imo, he’s like a fucking created wrestler in a video game and you give him every move that looks cool or head-droppy and just hit them one after another. Bland as hell with no emotion what so ever. Thank god for Roderick. ***

Eddie Edwards vs. Kyle O’Reilly
I thought they might do something with Kyle’s ribs but who the hell was I kidding. It was just a miniature version of Eddie/Davey tbh, lots of back and forth and exchanging moves and kicking out for the sake of it just to pop the crowd. **

Brian Cage vs. B-Boy
Fuck this was just terrible. Didn’t care for it for a start, but man it was just bland and didn’t have anything going for it. It was terribly paced and sloppy and the crowd didn‘t care either and it was far too long. Wanted to turn it off about 3 minutes in but sadly stuck with it. Cage can‘t work a match with someone who isn‘t a great worker, and B-Boy is fucking abysmal. I'm being fucking generous here.*

Ricochet vs. Kevin Steen
Really liked this. The start was amazing with Ricochet using his agility to annoy Steen and Steen just power bombing him to shit. Liked Ricochet using his quickness to get the advantage back and keep using it to stay on the upper hand. He really took it to Steen here. Ricochet is a damn good wrestler imo, sure his moves are spotty, but when he uses them as well as he does it works perfectly. Cage stuff was meh this time arounf, whereas in the Mack match it worked really well. Still gave Ricochet an advantage and allowed him to pick up the upset which was cool. Wasn't as good as you'd expect from these two though bar the start. ***1/4

Sami Callihan vs. Willie Mack
Another match with two guys going out there and hitting stiff moves for the sake of it. Just bad imo. *1/2

El Generico vs. Adam Cole
Oh fuck Adam Cole is awesome! This was really good, trust these two to come out and actually structure a match properly and deliver. This is actually my first time seeing HEEL Adam Cole which ruled, and it’s always great when Generico works from behind. Cole’s counter to the that DDT Generico does when he grabs the arm and runs up the ropes was fucking awesome. Steen having a man crush on Cole is pretty hilarious. ***1/2

Davey Richards vs. Michael Elgin
This wasn’t actually THAT bad, but it was just a poor re-hash of their ROH match and the same old Davey match. Elgin needs to be in there with someone who’s great (like the Hero match in ROH), otherwise he’s just another terrible case if an indy wrestler, who happens to have a half decent look. Didn’t care for it and I’m now realising I don’t care for Elgin at all either. There were a couple of decent sequences though I have to say. ***

Such a disappointing show, especially considering it’s BOLA. A couple of good matches that not surprisingly had Steen and Generico in., with the rest being a bunch of nothingness apart from moves and overkill and no structure or story or emotion (bar Strong/Younger which was alright). The last half of the year has been seriously disappointing for PWG in general. Not even sure I want to watch Night 2 tbh with the people that went through bar Cole. The tag with Steen/Generico interests me though.
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Um, I'm not sure if you realized this but Cage really isn't that good yet. Elgin, on the other hand, is. It was a safer bet to have the tournament around Elgin then it would of been for Cage who isn't all there yet. I sumwhat agree on the Triple Threat being unnecessary but it does have it's backing for happening. Ricochet pinned the World champ and Elgin was the guy that beat the guy who beat the World champion.....guy. Plus it works out since Elgin/Ricochet, Ricochet/Elgin, and apparently Elgin/Steen have all been great freaking matches. A three way seems almost like a prefect draw.
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I'm not very sold on Elgin personally. I've gotten into Cage over his run in PWG. That's purely my opinion only. Guess I got used to PWG letting BOLA being a showcase for some homegrown talent to shine. Then again, Cage did go over B-Boy. So maybe I should shut up and accept that. Like I said, it was all preference here. Cage has room to grow. No doubt about that.

In regards to the 3 way...once again stems back to me not being crazy about Elgin. Irony on it being that I actually did get interested in the Steen vs Elgin title match that happened last night. Felt ROH built up Elgin enough to be credible in that. In PWG it feels weird to me. idk. PWG isn't one to shy away from fast pushes either. We all know they book on a whim. It seems that Elgin, and Cole, have certainly benefitted off of that. Steen vs Ricochet seemed logical to me. But Elgin beat Ricochet, so fine. There it is. Certain it won't result in a title change so my gripe is for nothing. (watch as PWG completely swerves my assumption)

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Night 2 is better and doesn't have anything bad like Eddie/Kyle or B-Boy/Cage. If you don't like the first few minutes of the Joey 6 man then skip that. Nothing was great so lower your hopes and you might enjoy it a bit more. You need to get hold of as much Heel Adam Cole as you can. Guy is legit tremendous. He's had a ton of great heel stuff in wXw and CZW. Did you ever watch the Cole/Sami matches from last year in CZW? Get on them.


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3 way doesn't overly interest me but it makes sense. Ricochet obviously earned a title shot, Elgin beat Ricochet so he kinda earned one too. Elgin really isn't any good. He has some flashy power moves and that's literally it. I thought he had potential when he broke out in ROH and maybe in a different environment he could transform into someone good but there's no Aries/Joe/Danielson guy around on the Indies anymore to improve these guys so they go round and round working with other poor workers and nobody gets anywhere barely. He's totally lost when he's not doing moves. Cage isn't that good yet but I do agree that he should have been in Elgin's position at BOLA because he had some crazy momentum and was getting mad over. No idea what they did with him at BOLA or why. Should have been him vs Cole in the Final with Cole's sneakiness being the difference. I'm not saying Cage is a great worker by any means but the Steen match proved that there's something there to work with if he's given a good worker. If he's not then he looks very average as the last 2 shows showed with Edwards and B-Boy. They really needed to have one of their own guys go far. Instead it was two CZW guys, a ROH guy and a DG guy in the Semis and Ryan/Mack/Steen/Generico all lost on Night 1.


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Well Ricochet is pretty regular for PWG now. So he wasn't too bad of a choice. Cole seems to be getting a nice rub and has main evented recently, so maybe he'll be back more. Callihan & Elgin were total surprises. While i'm glad Sami got the big chance to shine, I wouldn't have objected to either of the two being knocked out for more constant PWG workers. I know Generico & Joey both won the last two years, but they could have gone a bit further. Mack too. He went from beating Hero last year to losing in the first round. Weird.

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Night 2 is better and doesn't have anything bad like Eddie/Kyle or B-Boy/Cage. If you don't like the first few minutes of the Joey 6 man then skip that. Nothing was great so lower your hopes and you might enjoy it a bit more. You need to get hold of as much Heel Adam Cole as you can. Guy is legit tremendous. He's had a ton of great heel stuff in wXw and CZW. Did you ever watch the Cole/Sami matches from last year in CZW? Get on them.
I'll give it a watch tomorrow then I think, as well as GBH (oh god, not looking forward to that at all). I might have seen bits and pieces of Cole in wXw actually, but I've not seen those Callihan matches, literally haven't watched any CZW for about 5 years lol.
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Seabs was a gent and told me to check out the Cole/Callihan match from Night of Infamy last year. It's a must see, imo.

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I need to watch pretty much a whole year of PWG. Last show I watched was BOLA 2011.

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Callihan vs Cole from NOI is the stuff. 4 star at the most match.

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