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post #6411 of 10976 (permalink) Old 08-13-2012, 07:17 PM
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I just started watching wrestling again and I feel way out of the loop. Could you give me some matches to put me up to speed, and the best ones to watch from the start of 2011 till present. I just need to get back into it
Wow, let's see...

CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan - 01/30/12 RAW
CM Punk vs. Mark Henry - 04/02/12 RAW
CM Punk vs. John Cena - Money in the Bank 2011
Randy Orton vs. Christian - Over the Limit 2011
Randy Orton vs. Christian - Either Capitol Punishment 2011 or Summer Slam 2011
Daniel Bryan vs. Sheamus - Extreme Rules 2012
CM Punk vs. Chris Jericho Extreme Rules 2012
Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena Extreme Rules 2012
CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan - Money in the Bank 2012
CM Punk vs. Mark Henry - 04/16/12 episode of Raw 2012
Daniel Bryan vs. John Cena - 07/02/12 episode of Raw 2012

AJ Styles vs Bully Ray - Slammiversary 2011
Austin Aries vs. Zema Ion vs. Jack Evans vs. Low Ki-Destination X 2011
Bobby Roode vs. AJ Styles - Final Resolution 2011
Austin Aries vs. Alex Shelley-Against All Odds 2012
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Hardy-Victory Road 2012
Bobby Roode vs. AJ Styles - 05/24/12 episode of Impact Wrestling
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Hardy-Lockdown 2012
Bobby Roode vs. James Storm-Lockdown 2012
Austin Aries vs. Bully Ray-Sacrifice 2012
AJ Styles vs. Kurt Angle-Sacrifice 2012
Austin Aries vs. Samoa Joe-Slammiversary 2012
Kurt Angle and AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels and Kazarian- Slammiversary 2012
Austin Aries vs. Bobby Roode-Destination X 2012
AJ Styles vs. Christopher Daniels - Destination X 2012
Austin Aries vs. Bobby Roode-Hardcore Justice 2012

The Briscoe's vs Cole and O'Reilly - Honor Takes Center Stage Night One
The All Night Express vs The Briscoe's - Honor Takes Center Stage Night Two
The Kings of Wrestling vs. Cole and O'Reilly - Honor Takes Center Stage Night Two

Tajiri vs. Finlay - 02/19 SMASH

and a bunch of others that have most likely slipped my mind. Guys like Christian/Orton had a bunch of good matches together and so did Bryan/Punk.

You know you remember this.

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Evans is amazing. Must get some more of his stuff from ACW.

AAW - Bound By Hate 2012

1. Austin Manix vs J.Miller

2. Angelus Layne vs MsChif

3. The Awesome Threesome vs Christian Able & Josh Raymond vs Darin Corbin & Marion Fontaine

4. Colt Cabana vs Mason Beck

5. Davey Richards vs Sami Callihan

6. Krotch vs Danny Daniels

7. Louis Lyndon vs Jesse Emerson

8. Markus Crane & Shane Hollister vs Dan Lawrence & Gregory Iron

9. Michael Elgin vs Kyle O'Reilly

10. Arik Cannon, BJ Whitmer & Jimmy Jacobs vs Silas Young & Irish Airborne

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Finished watching War of the Wire II yesterday.

1. Jimmy Jacobs vs. Trik Davis - *** (Jacobs is fantastic, loved how he changed up his moveset as a heel)
2. Davey Richards & Jerrelle Clark vs. Jimmy Rave & Sal Rinuaro - **3/4 (Rinauro/Rave are tons of fun, which is a word Davey didn't seem to understand even six years ago)
3. Nigel McGuinness vs. Colt Cabana - **3/4 (solid in parts, but never really got going, finish was lame)
4. Christopher Daniels vs. Matt Sydal - ****1/2 (fucking amazing)
6. Austin Aries beat Bryan Danielson, Homicide, & Delirious in a non title Four Corner Survival when Aries pinned Danielson - ***1/2 (went too long, kind of a one-note thing, but still fun times)
7. Jay & Mark Briscoe beat Roderick Strong & Jack Evans - ***1/2 (ehhhh, didn't really dig this, their BITW match was better)
8. BJ Whitmer defeated Necro Butcher in a No Rope Barbed Wire Match - **3/4 (kinda sucked)

and here's some long reviews for Daniels/Sydal and Whitmer/Necro:

Christopher Daniels vs. Matt Sydal, ROH War of the Wire II (7/28/06)

Okay so I've literally never heard anyone say anything about this match so I had no idea what to expect. Which might be why I was so blown away by it. The opening is fairly straightforward, they set up the story of Sydal needing to win the big one because Daniels has beaten him three times, with three different moves, and now Sydal's back from Dragon Gate and his first match is Daniels. Sydal does a really good job at getting over the urgency, there's no posing, no wasted motion, he always tries to follow up a move with another move. But it doesn't always work, because Daniels is the crafty veteran and he can usually stop Sydal's momentum. There's a really nifty subplot with Daniels working the neck too. That isn't out of the ordinary, Daniels usually works the neck, it sets up for three of his finishers, but they play on it later in a big way. That's how I like body part work to be: a subplot, something you'd expect guys to do, rather than the whole focus of the match. The story should be about the struggle to maintain offense, the offense should follow a consistent strategy. They did that really well here.

So the finishing stretch starts with an absolutely sick STO from Daniels that Sydal bumps crazily for, and then Daniels hits the BME, and you think there's no way it can be the end, and you're right, Sydal kicks out. And then Sydal hits a super pretty springboard DDT and Daniels kicks out and the look on Sydal's face is perfect. The "aw, I thought I had it" facial expression is the most overused one in wrestling, but here somehow it's done way better than just about anywhere else. You really get the sense Sydal feels like he needs to beat Daniels, and he needs to do it now, and he thinks he just missed his best chance. And then he goes for a shooting star, but Daniels rolls out of the way, and Sydal lands on his feet, and for once that spot doesn't look super-choreographed, it looks like Sydal actually saw Daniels move and started flipping faster to get his feet under him.

I can't remember the exact sequence and I don't want to spoil it, but the finishing stretch is phenomenal. They work off the neck work Daniels did, and they had me believing every single nearfall. It ended exactly where it should have, too. They built to a major crescendo and then ended at the highest point. The crowd had been split about 50/50 for most of the match, but at the end, every single person was on their feet cheering for Sydal. The postmatch is brilliant too, and you really get the sense that this meant a whole lot to Sydal, both the character and the wrestler.

An incredibly emotional match, with great performances from both guys. A career-making match for Sydal, and something I'm definitely voting for.

BJ Whitmer vs. Necro Butcher (No Ropes Barbed Wire), War of the Wire II

so let me start by saying that I fucking love NRBW matches. the stip is kinda wacky but it almost always creates instant tension and a super easy story that's usually some fun. get a couple guys who can work holds well and pull off awesome facial expressions and you've got an instant recipe for a fun 15-minute match. I love the shit out of the Homicide/Corino match because Homicide was the absolute greatest at selling the barbed wire like it was going to actually kill him.

I'll talk about that one another time though. this one... kinda sucked, to be honest. like I just said, I love this stip, but it's contingent on having two guys who don't completely suck, and fuck it, Necro completely sucks. He does nothing for me at all. apparently this is his good period, and I've watched a good deal of stuff from him and haven't liked him in any of it. he takes godawful bumps, has sloppy offense, never does anything interesting character-wise, or anything at all apart from that chest-slapping thing he does when he's winning, he's slow and shitty at doing anything approaching standard wrestling, he relies on kickouts almost exclusively to build tension, and have I mentioned how awful he is at taking bumps?

Whitmer wasn't horrible, he certainly wasn't Homicide, but if he'd been in there with Homicide I probably could have dug this. but he was saddled with a guy who just dragged the whole thing down. whenever Whitmer would try and do an Irish whip, Necro would just take a couple steps and stop. it was the polar opposite of Homicide going full speed and then trying desperately to stop himself. it looked horrible and killed the early portion of the match for me. and then he never ever seemed like he was scared of the wire. I mean, I get it kinda, Necro's a monster and all, but fuck, put over the stip first and then yourself. and then there was a point where he was supposed to put a chair around Whitmer's neck but he fucked it up and then walked away so Whitmer had to hold it in place which just looked awful.

and then the worst part was that this went like 30 minutes. fuck. there's only so much you should be doing in a NRBW match and the barbed wire should be most of it. there's no need to get fucking ladders and tables and shit involved, the point of a NRBW match is that every single move is supposed to be huge. that's what makes it fun to watch, what makes it different and unique from every other gimmick match. and here they just kinda forgot that, and the wire stopped seeming like a big deal fifteen minutes in because they'd gone into it so many times. and Necro did his thing where he kicked out of everything and aaaauugghhhhh

sorry for the rant, this match just massively disappointed me and I'm bored and in a rambly writing mood.

tl;dr this match isn't very good and it's mostly because Necro sucks, fuck Necro

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As a special bonus you can add the "Kevin Steen: Ascention To The Top" two disc set to this item for the special price of $10. Just us the drop down menu below to add it along with this item. This is a very limited time offer!!!

At some point in their lives every man reaches a breaking point, a moment where he chooses to either persevere through his difficulties or give in and let his problems consume him. On December 19, 2009 at "Final Battle 2009" Kevin Steen faced that moment. With several choice words and the brutal crack of a steel chair, Kevin made his decision and a slow descent into madness that would grow to effect all of Ring of Honor began...

From the closing night of Steen & Generico's ROH World Tag Title reign through the war at "Final Battle 2010" that brought this madman's time in ROH to a temporary end, this 2-DVD set is a chronicle of the matches & the moments that saw Steen spiral out of control. From his tag team battles against The American Wolves & The Young Bucks with El Generico to his Steve Corino-influenced violent turn, this compilation includes Steen's bouts against his former partner, bloody battles against Colt Cabana, his ROH World Championship battle against Tyler Black, and more! From the violence of his matches to the often psychotic words spewing from his mouth, this is Kevin Steen's descent into madness...

Disc 1
1. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. The American Wolves (Tables Match)…ROH on HDNet #11
2. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. The Young Bucks…Contention 6/12/19
3. Kevin Steen & El Generico vs. The Young Bucks…Final Battle 2009 12/19/09
4. Steen/Cabana face to face after Final Battle– Video Wire 12/23/09
5. Steen/Cabana Promos – Video Wire 2/9/10
6. Kevin Steen vs. Colt Cabana… 8th Anniversary Show 2/13/10
7. Kevin Steen vs. Kenny Omega…From The Ashes 3/26/10
8. Post match of Cabana/Generico vs. American Wolves...Phoenix Rising 3/27/10
9. Steen/Corino and Cabana/Generico Promos – Video Wire 3/30/10
10. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino vs. Colt Cabana & El Generico…The Big Bang 4/3/10
11. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino vs. Colt Cabana & El Generico (COME-AS-YOU-ARE STREET FIGHT)… Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies 2 4/24/10
12. Steen’s Bloody Challenge Video – 4/26/10
13. Cabana answers the challenge- ROH Video Wire 4/28/10
14. Kevin Steen vs. Colt Cabana (34th Street Last Man Standing Deathmatch)… Supercard of Honor V 5/8/10

Disc 2
15. Kevin Steen vs. El Generico… Death Before Dishonor VIII 6/19/10
16. Steen-Generico altercation at intermission at Death Before Dishonor
17. Steen jumps Tyler Black…ROH on HDNet #65 7/12/10
18. Steen & Tyler promos- ROH Video Wire 7/20/10
19. Kevin Steen vs. El Generico… Hate: Chapter II 7/23/10
20. Kevin Steen vs. Tyler Black (ROH World Title Match)…Salvation 7/24/10
21. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino vs. El Generico & Colt Cabana (Street Fight)…ROH on HDNet #67
22. Steen/Corino Promo setting up GBH IX & Generico/Stevens post-match…ROH on HDNet #70
23. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino vs. Colt Cabana & El Generico (Tag Team Chain Match)… Glory By Honor IX 9/11/10
24. Clips of Steen’s involvement in Colt Cabana & El Generico vs. Kenny King & Rhett Titus … Fate Of An Angel II 11/13/10
25. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino vs. The Kings of Wrestling (World Tag Team Title Match)…Fate of an Angel II
26. Kevin Steen vs. Grizzly Redwood…ROH on HDNet #82
27. In ring promo with Kevin Steen…ROH on HDNet #85
28. Final Battle 2010 hype video
29. Kevin Steen vs. El Generico (Unsanctioned Fight Without Honor/ROH Career vs. Mask Match)…Final Battle 2010 12/18/10
Ring of Honor returned to the Pittsburgh, PA area on Saturday, June 30th headlined by Roderick Strong challenging Kevin Steen for the ROH World Title, Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Rhino & Michael Elgin, Rhett Titus vs. Charlie Haas, Eddie Edwards vs. Tommaso Ciampa, BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs, plus more!

1. Kyle O'Reilly vs. Jay Lethal

2. Adam Cole vs. Pepper Parks

3. Four Corner Survival Match: "The Prodigy" Mike Bennett vs. Mike Mondo vs. Kenny King vs. Mike Sydal

4. First Time In ROH: Eddie Edwards vs. Tommaso Ciamapa

5. The War Reignites: BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs

6. Grudge Match: Rhett Titus vs. Charlie Haas

7. Tag Team Grudge Match: Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Rhino & Michael Elgin

8. ROH World Title Match: Kevin Steen vs. Roderick Strong

DVD Bonus:

Winner Gets A World Title Match: Roderick Strong vs. Jay Lethal vs. Adam Cole vs. Mike Bennett

*taped 5/18/12 in Baltimore, MD.

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ROH just keep crankin out the DVDs.

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PWG Fear

Fightin' Taylor Boys vs. Kenny King & TJ Perkins

Roderick Strong vs. Amazing Red

8 Person Tag Team Match
Joey Ryan, Scorpio Sky, Ray Rosas, & Peter Avalon vs. B-Boy, Famous B, Chris Kadillak, & Candice LeRae

Chris Hero vs. Willie Mack

Future Shock vs. RockNES Monsters

American Wolves vs. Super Smash Brothers

PWG World Championship Match
El Generico (c) vs. Dick Togo

Guerrilla Warfare Match for the PWG World Tag Team Championships
The Young Bucks (c) vs. Super Dragon & Kevin Steen

Another extremely fun and awesome PWG show and makes me really wanna go on and order DDT 4 2012 and Death To All But Metal. Opener was good albeit I think if we got the original Los Luchas vs Fightin' Taylor Boys and TJ Perkins vs. Kenny King I think it would have made for an even better card. I really thought Red vs Strong was just a run of the mill match and some of the slight botches brought it down. Wow the 8 Person Tag Team Match was one of the best comedy matches I have ever seen it was hard to even give it a star rating because of how fun it was. I liked Hero vs Mack but didn't get quite to the level of the BOLA 2011 match I dont know what to say I just liked this match didn't love it. I am becoming a bigger fan of the RockNES Monsters everytime I watch them and this match was no different and like the commentators said this was a darkhorse match that nobody seemed to talk about before or after but I enjoyed it. SSB vs. The Wolves had it all it had its fun moments its intense moments just an awesome match and I can see why PWG has pushed the SSB like they have. Have never seen a Togo match but this was normal Generico awesomeness and Togo was impressive as well I might have to go back and check some Togo out. I have heard everybody say they were highly dissapointed with the Guerilla Warfare Match but I loved it. I expected choas and that is what I got and the spots were just brutal I love this match and a great way to cap off the night. Overall I think I still like Steen Wolf better but I don't think their is a company that can compete with the run of shows PWG had in the last 4 months of 2011.
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Callihan/MASADA and Generico/Del Sol III announced for EVOLVE 17 (Sept. 8th)...
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CZW New Heights 2012 IPPV Review:

Alex Colon vs. Devon Moore **

8 Person Up The Ladder Challenge Match
Ruckus vs. Mia Yim vs. Rory Mondo vs.Joe Gacy vs. Niles Young vs. Drew Gulak vs. Latin Dragon vs. Dustin Rayz **3/4

Dave Crist & DJ Hyde vs. Jake Crist & Greg Excellent DUD

CZW Tag Team Championship
4 Loco vs. Nation of Intoxication N/A
Didn't watched it because of the last match. I was too tired.

CZW Championship
Masada vs. AR Fox ***1/2
Very good match, the DDT looked sick.

Is Sami/Younger worth a watch? their last match was great, but i'm not a fan of Younger and long matches so i don't know if it's worth the hour.

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Generico vs Del Sol III I'm sure will be fine but I don't think that we need another match so fast.
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Generico vs Del Sol III I'm sure will be fine but I don't think that we need another match so fast.
Yeah, I agree. I'd save it for November/December, to hype and build it more.
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