[Lane]

They havint, but it was either Shimmer or RCW that did.

[EmbassyForever]

Originally Posted by Lane

How is CZW cheap? They run shows all over the country that no other indy promotion in recent history has done (Last being ROH in Japan) and bring in talent from across countries. The Cinco De Mayo show wasnt the best but it was their fist time running with a company since IPW closed up shop so it would be a little rough.

Did you watched the show?

[Lane]

Yeah I have the dvd. First half is bad because no match up until Fox vs Colon got up to 10 mins. Every thing from Fox vs Colon up was good.

[Seabs]

SWE 4Everevolution

The Predators vs The Myatt Legacy
**3/4

Rockstar Spud vs Nikki Storm
N/A

Sami Callihan vs Dave Mastiff
***3/4

Finlay vs Martin Kirby
****+

Max Angelus vs Nick Riley vs Robbie X
****1/4

Doug Williams vs Rampage Brown vs Joel Redman vs Stixx
***

Overall:
Super show and it only goes 95 minutes which is an added bonus. First 2 matches feature 2 of the best promos of the year. Both matches are really fun and short to start the show with too. Then the next 3 matches are all great. Main event is the low point of the show which was a shame but it does feature the best low bridge bump ever. Definitely recommend.

Looking to sell this and 4FW Wrestlewar 2011 and Wrestleution 2012 on if anyone is interested.

[EmbassyForever]

ROH Rising Above 2012: (re-watched)

1. The All Night Express vs. Chris Silvio & Mohammad Ali Vaez - **
2. Michael Elgin vs. Sampson Walker - ***
3. Kevin Steen vs. BJ Whitmer - **3/4
4. El Generico vs. Kyle O'Reilly - ***1/2
5. TJ Perkins vs. Mike Mondo - **3/4
6. 2 Out Of 3 Falls: Roderick Strong vs. Jay Lethal - ***1/2
7. World Tag Team Title Match: Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team - **1/4
8. ROH World Title Match: Davey Richards vs. Adam Cole - ****

Overall Rating: Good show. Nothing was bad, i enjoyed it. 7.25

[JoeRulz]

Originally Posted by Lane

2012 CZW has been great so far. samuray Del Sol vs Alex Colon and Masada vs AR Fox was anounced for the next ippv along with Azriel & Bandido jr vs Nation of Intoxication and Callihan vs Younger in a 1hr iron man deathmatch.

MASADA/Fox could be all kinds of awesome. And I'm strangely interested in the 1hr Ironman Deathmatch, mostly because I'm a huge Sami Callihan mark. The match quality will probably be CRAP, but I just can't get enough of Sami, so 1hr of him - yes, why not?

Originally Posted by Seabs

Sami/Fox could have been great but Fox sucks so bad it's untrue.

From BOTB 11? Really? Because that match was bloody awesome, and had the "big match" feel, and I loved the Puro details with wrestlers surrounding the ring and watching the match. It felt important, and you could just feel the nature of their long feed. ****1/4 for that match, both guys were busting their asses, and Sami pulling Fit Finlay and brutalizing Fox at the end was balls awesome.

And AR Fox is awesome.

[Seabs]

Fox is terrible. If you think he's awesome then you have terribly low expectations for wrestlers.

Watched some ROH today that people were hyping in here.

Bucks vs Bravados from Unity was good but it was nothing better than a good undercard match. Bucks aren't very good right now. Feels way too much like they just want to goof about rather than having great matches. The impersonating famous wrestlers shtick has to stop. Shame nobody will tell they need to wrap this gimmick up because of their power in PWG. Bravados are now generic puro guys which is a shame. They really stood out last year during there brief heel run and now they're just generic Indy/Puro guys. Fans are terrible. More interested in their smarky chants than paying attention to the dynamics of the match. He doesn't even look much like Bieber fags.

Gave up on the Steen/Generico tag about 10 minutes in. Pre-match stuff was fucking awful. Sinclair stands in the ring while Cornette runs the show over the phone. Felt like an unusual lack of hate for these 4 guys and they weren't working anywhere near stiff enough.

Started the Colony 6 man. Terrible Indy choreographed sequences. Fuck off.

Watched Team Ambition vs WGTT. Super match. Told a great story, loved the selling. Perfect pacing and length. Crowd were fantastic. Lol I didn't even watch it actually.

Davey vs Cole is decent. In now way a ****1/2 match lol. I was actually impressed by Davey selling the ribs early on and them playing off a previous match where they got busted but yeah he gave up after a few minutes. Strike sequences were laughable. There was barely anyone sitting on the higher tier of seats. Made the show and the match look cheap and insignificant. Massive silver curtains suck btw. Kelly is a terrible commentator. Full of terrible cliches, sounds phony and bored and I still want to gauge his eyes out. Corino was great on a commentary in a serious manner though. Crossbody nearfall was neat but nobody buys the crossbody as a finisher just because he won one match with it. Hated how Cole just sat himself in position for the table spot and they never sell it afterwards like a significant moment in the match. Didn't hate but yeah it's in no way a great match.

Eddie/Cide from BITW wasn't very good. Cide wouldn't work the injured arm and he still sucks. Guessing by the finish he's back full time now but I don't think I've seen him booked for a future date. Way to have him beat one of your very top guys clean if he's going away again.

Finlay/Elgin really wasn't good. Just paced way too slow and ROH isn't the right place for a Finlay style match in 2012. Horrendous finish.

Cole/O'Reilly and Davey/Steen were both very good and enjoyable though. I'll talk about them more in the MOTYC Thread later.

[EmbassyForever]

Originally Posted by Seabs

Started the Colony 6 man. Terrible Indy choreographed sequences. Fuck off.

BTW your post reminds this dude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btY4N5YOdm0. Lol.

[KingKicks]

Originally Posted by Seabs

Watched Team Ambition vs WGTT. Super match. Told a great story, loved the selling. Perfect pacing and length. Crowd were fantastic. Lol I didn't even watch it actually.

Legit lol

[JoeRulz]

Originally Posted by Seabs

Fox is terrible. If you think he's awesome then you have terribly low expectations for wrestlers.

Lol, how is he "terrible"? He's a great, crazy high-flyer, is a decent seller for a CZW/American Indy wrestler, and works the crowd just fine. Good in FIP segments too.

Sure, there's a lot of things to improve, hence why he needs to go to DG Japan for few months...