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ROH Eye of the Storm II

Adam Pearce and Matt Classic vs. The Set

So the set has one big guy and one really little one. It seems that most of there offense involves the big guy finding creative ways to throw the little guy at their opponents. There was also one spot where they tricked Pearce and the big guy ended up launching himself as Pearce. Other than those few moments the little guy got his ass kicked the whole time until he made the sort of hot tag. They weren't terrible but they also didn't impress me very much at all.

Matt Classic was pretty funny during this match. Near the end Pearce hit him by mistake and sent him outside the ring. Classic's response was him screaming, "Pearce, You Suck!" His other random insults at everyone else were funny as well. A very basic and short match that was good for some fun. Pretty basic for the most part though.

Sonjay Dutt vs. Grizzly Redwood

I was ready to take a gun and start shooting into the crowd when they were dead for the first 3 minutes and than starting marking out when Sonjay did some snapmares and started chanting for snapmares. Nothing wrong for marking out for a random move but the chants were just stupid. I did like that Dutt went for a snapmore and held up at the last minute to mess with the fans. Dutt might not be the best worker out there but he is a good heel. He knows how to work the fans and get heat.

That being said the match really wasn't all that good. There was one really ugly botch and a few other moves that really didn't look that good. The whole story of the match was that Sonjay was just a cocky bastard that took Grizzly lightly.

Rhett Titus vs. Kenny Omega

Pretty funny to see Omega acting a lot like Titus. Some of the more obnoxious things that you would expect to see from Titus were done by Omega early on in the match. The crowd seemed to like it (it wasn't much of a pop but they didn't seem to care about anything other than Snapmares). In fact I liked the whole dynamic of the match were Titus was taking things a lot more seriously since he was in the ring with a really good opponent. Omega on the other hand was the one that was taking the match lightly; Going out of his way to taunt and humiliate Titus throughout the match.

Omega had some really good selling of the head and neck that stemmed from a dropkick that Titus hit when he pulled the ref in front of him to stop a charging Omega. Titus did a great job of taking short cuts whenever he had the chance and he really wrestled this like something important was on the line. I mean it was a pick six match and everything but this was a big match for Titus. Much more competitive than I was expecting

Kevin Steen and El Generico vs. Bison Smith and Erick Stevens w/Prince Nana and Ernesto Osiris

The match itself wasn't all that amazing but I feel like it did a really good job of setting things up for Final Battle (it was the next night). Everyone thought Steen was going to announce he was leaving for a while, or maybe even retire after his match at Final Battle. Whether you think wrestling is real or you're a smark you would think that Steen's knee was injured. After all his moves he would hold the knee and sell it like there was something seriously wrong with it. The less obvious fact was that Steen didn't really get involved for any extended period of time.

A lot of this match was Generico essentially fighting the Embassy on his own and only letting Steen get involved when it was absolutely necessary. You also see some signs of aggression after the match from after Generico took the fall. At the time you would think it would be all frustration at him not being able to wrestle very well because of his injury. Looking back now though, you might think he was just pissed with Generico for losing the match. I might be reading a little to into it but there some subtle hints that Steen was just getting really fed up with Generico. I'm glad I watched it as this was the weekend where feud between Steen and Generico would get started.

Chris Hero w/Shane Hagadorn vs. Colt Cabana

Colt Cabana really is the perfect guy to have on the mid card. He has the ability to be really entertaining when he does the most basic stuff. He makes me laugh a lot and at the same time his technical stuff is always very well done. This match wasn't anything incredible but they kept an easy to watch pace and kept a good back and forth pace. For the spot they working on it was really all you expected.

I was really happy to see that Cabana made the elbows from Hero really mean something. The first one almost ended the match and when Hero used the loaded elbow pad it was the end of the match. Good stuff but nothing great. They could certainly do better if they really wanted to.

Kenny King and Austin Aries vs. The Young Bucks

I loved the promo right before. Aries and King displayed some horrendous 80s ring gear. Aries was unhappy to say that their tassels hadn't arrived yet but they would get them in time for the shows that actually matter. He also pointed out that he wanted to get the match over with quickly so they didn't get snowed in....

It was nice to see the Bucks wrestle with some real heels too. They really are pretty ridiculous looking and while I like them as a team it was a blast to see Aries and King make fun of them and mess with them constantly during the match. It was actually a little like watching the PWG Young Bucks wrestle the babyface Young Bucks. I mean Aries and King were doing synchronized somersaults to set up a stomp. The beginning of the match had it's fun moments and the stuff in the ring was pretty good as well. My biggest problem that just when the match as really starting to pick up it ended. Still a good match, a few more minutes and we might have had something really awesome.

Roderick Strong vs. Tyler Black

So this match really pointed out everything that is wrong with Tyler Black. In a big match in front of a hot crowd he can get away with a lot more. In this case the match was kind of meaningless and the crowd was pretty much dead. Strong focused so much of his offense on the back and Tyler just didn't sell it. You say I know wrestling isn't real but looking at some of the moves that he took I thought his back might actually be hurting, but he just didn't sell it. He didn't need to go crazy or anything with the selling but maybe acting like his back was in some pain, or going that extra mile and you know grimacing in pain and grabbing his back....

The action and the work rate was incredible and they went out there and told a pretty compelling story. Black put on a great effort and Strong came out there with a game plan, stuck to it, and it worked for him. The match was still really good and I enjoyed it but I kind of wanted to go up to Tyler after the match kick him in the back really hard so he could actually act like his back was in pain.

The American Wolves and Alex Koslov vs. The Briscoes and Rocky Romero

Well after seeing the first few minutes I wish they had just sent Edwards, Koslov, and the Briscoes home and let Davey and Romero wrestle a singles match. their encounter to start the match was awesome. It was pretty funny to see Romero and the Briscoes all hit the a fall away slam at the same time and watch the crowd flip out. It was even better when Davey flipped out, took his tag title belt, put on Koslov's furry Russian hat, and left. After that they pretty much ended the comedy portion of the match and had a good back forth match where they kept a great pace. I would almost say that they were too fast. I feel like I almost needed a breather in the middle of it.

The Briscoes and Wolves ended up brawling out of the ringside area leaving Koslov and Romero in the ring alone. They were really good in the ring together for a few minutes, we saw one of the best looking super kicks that I've ever seen. The ending was a little lackluster but I think it was one of the guy's finishers so I guess it made sense. This was really good and this was one of the matches that would be great to see live. MOTN

Not the best show but it was less than 2 1/2 hours and had some quality matches. It's missing that one great match but everything was solid for the most part. It was a lot better than Buffalo Stampede II for what it's worth. And it came for free with Final Battle so even it sucked I really couldn't complain that much.
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Love the front.
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Well, it's good to see that after so many months they actually improve the DVD Covers. The front is great but the back is messed up because of the blending they do with the action photos.
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It's an improvment but the back is horrible. I'll take half assed covers as long as they improve the production value of the DVD shows. Hopefully they'll spend more time on that now the TV show is gone.
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Yeah, if anything, ROH covers recently have been 75% good, and then there's always at least one thing wrong that keeps them from being great. I still can't believe they released FB2010 with that Steen picture on the front.
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The Final Battle cover could have been epic. Think of the images they could have used, and then they use that pic of Steen just looking like some random guy from the street.
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Originally Posted by superdupersonic View Post
BxB Hulk in many ways reminds me of Booker T. before he got lazy and worthless. A good worker that with a decent opponent will get a ***-***1/2 match, and is capable of being carried to a ****+ MOTYC if he's working with one of the world's top workers.
So he's basically Roderick Strong, in other words.

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Seriously, do they make the back of these covers with that graffiti thing on MS Paint?

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Feb. 9th!! I can't wait that long! I need my Wolves-Kings now!
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Originally Posted by Shirley Crabtree III View Post
So he's basically Roderick Strong, in other words.
Strong is a great worker, he's had fantastic matches with numerous people, and doesn't need a someone to carry him. I know he's terrible on the mic, but his in ring work is unquestionable.

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ROH Final Battle 2009: A Hostile Encounter

Alex Payne vs. Andy Ridge

Nice little match actually. It was only 3 minutes long but I was entertained. I enjoyed it more than Strong/King from the later on in the show... I can't rate it very high but I was happy with how it turned out.

Claudio Castagnoli vs. Kenny Omega vs. Colt Cabana vs. Rhett Titus

For a good portion of the match you had the heels and the faces working together. Omega and Colt are just a hilarious combination, I can only imagine how great things could be from a technical and comical standpoint if they ever had a singles match. The match wasn't anything amazing but it was a lot of fun. Everyone got there spots in and they kept me entertained the whole time. It made me laugh at times and had me thinking it was awesome at other times. Good opener.

Erick Stevens and Bison Smith w/Prince Nana vs. Delirious and Bobby Dempsey

So Necro Butcher was snowed in wherever it is that he lives leaving Delerious without a partner going into the match. He didn't really feel like he needed one as he just came out and attacked the Embassy on his own. He got his ass kicked, badly for a couple minutes before Pelle Primeau (sp?) came out to aid him. He got his ass kicked as well. All hope appeared to be lost for the good guys, they didn't have a chance. That is until we got... Bobby Dempsey. Thankfully they were in New York and he got a great reaction and had the fans chanting his name when he hit the ring.

I actually think Bobby Dempsey prevented this from being a bad match. I mean it wasn't particularly good by any means but he did add an interesting dynamic to the match and he was over. Pretty much what you expect from the Embassy today.

Fight Without Honor
Eddie Kingston vs. Chris Hero

This is what a hardcore match is supposed to be. Everyone knew that these guys just hated each other going into the match and the match that they went out and had told a great story. I know I went into the match rooting for Hero because he's the man but by the end of things I was cheering for Kingston. This also had one of the most brutal spots that I've seen. I remember watching it live and thinking it was one of those spots that the wrestlers only tease because you can't possibly do the actual spot in a match. Well they did it in this match.

A great performance from Kingston, he took a ton of punishment and he just kept fighting. Hero was in full heel mode and came across as really unlikeable. They got the hatred across which I think is always the most important thing to do in a hardcore match. Pretty awesome stuff and I thought the ending was a really fitting way to end the feud in ROH between these two. That being said I'm sure they will find their way into a ring together again.

Kevin Steen and El Generico vs. The Young Bucks

I know everyone talks about how great the Steen/Generico feud was and how great Steen was as a heel but after seeing the Eye of Storm II and now this mach I'm really becoming a fan of the build to it. Steen really had me fooled that he was injured, he was literally selling the knee after every move that he hit, and the Bucks never targetted the knee. They were a lot of high impact moves that they hit over the course of the match and they kept it at a good pace. It never got to the crazy overkill mode which was probably for the best.

I loved the story that they told with Steen. He was seriously injured and just wasn't able to put the effort forth that he wanted to. He tried to but he just kept falling short. The way he went out was also very similar to a way that someone would take a pin of they were retiring. In a last ditch effort he kicked out of More Bang for Your Buck and then got his head kicked off about 6 times by the Bucks. Great match.


Wow, this might be my favorite, non comedy promo, ever. Steen sold the knee while walking around and delivered an amazing retirement speech. Would you think less of me if I said I almost had tears in my eyes when he started to cry? There was the initial pop when he turned on Generico but after that it was this shocked near silence in the crowd. They had no idea what to do. I remember just standing there thinking, "What just happened?" with my mouth hanging open. Amazing segment and would go on to start one of ROH's best feuds ever.

Kenny King vs. Roderick Strong

This match is exactly how I remember it. It sucked. These guys really needed to go back to wrestling school and learn how to work a match after seeing this. I can't make a summary about what this match was about as after seeing it twice all I have been able to figure out is that they both did a lot of moves and than it ended. I was hoping that seeing this on DVD would give me a different perspective on it but it hasn't changed. I can't describe why I hate this so much really. They just sort of went out there and wrestled a the same pace the whole time and it just wasn't interesting. It might be something that I can't exactly put my finger on but I do know that was terrible, worst match I've seen from either guy.

Rocky Romero vs. Alex Koslov

I wouldn't have wanted to be either guy for this match, everyone was pissed that Teddy Hart and Jack Evans weren't in this match, and Rocky told everyone they weren't going to make it because of the storm. This ended up being pretty awesome though. Koslov was really over to the point where it was comical at how much everyone liked to chant "Russia!" for him. The technical stuff was very good and once they started going for the high impact moves it was still pretty awesome. I got the impression that they could have an amazing technical match if they were in front of a crowd that would be more appreciative of it. Awkward ending as the bell rang too early. Still a very fun short match that made me want to see more of these guys in ROH.

ROH Tag Team Championship Match
The Brisoces vs. The American Wolves(c)

Good job getting the intensity and dislike of each other across. It was the little things like each team taking cheap shots on their opponent that was standing on the apron. Other than that anger there really wasb't anything more to the match. The pace was good and the spots were better but when things broke down they just kept things going for far too long. I mean there was a period of like 10 minutes were they just didn't make any tags. The match was fun to watch live but not as much on DVD. It was still a good match but it was far from great and I was expecting better from these two teams.

Christmas Miracle Match:

Teddy Hart vs. Jack Evans

I seriously have no idea how these two made it to New York in the middle of a blizzard...

I'm sure a lot of people hated that this happened but I have to say that it was one of my favorite moments of the night when these two showed up in the ring. They gave the fans what they wanted to see, which was Jack Evans and Teddy Hart going crazy and doing insane things in the ring. I'm not going to rate it (since as a match it wasn't all that great but it was amazing to see none the less) but it has a lot of awesome bumping from Evans and some really cool looking offense out of Teddy Hart.

ROH Championship Match

Tyler Black vs. Austin Aries(c)

I really do appreciate what they were trying to do with this. I still wish they hadn't gone to an hour draw but from a storyline and booking perspective it was a good idea. Just NYC after an already 3+ hour show during a big snow storm was a bad idea. Aries came in as the champion and he was determined that they were going to wrestle his kind of match. He took his time with everything and played his heel role really well. Black did what he had to do and had that ticking time bomb down really well, he wanted to get his chance to just go crazy on Aries but for the most part Aries prevented it from happening.

While the story they told was awesome and the last 5 minutes as well as the beginning of the match it really drags at points. They needed more of a story behind the match other than MOVESZ and SPOTZ to keep me interested. It was still a very good match but some flaws really hurt it. I am also embarrassed to say that I was part of this crowd. The match had problems but the crowd shouldn't taken such a big shit on it.

This is a really long show. It was good but no need for it to take so long. Along with Eye of the Storm II you really get your money's worth out of the DVD but Final Battle is a tough show to sit through in one sitting. There were a good amount of quality matches on the show but some of the matches that were good look like they should be great on paper.
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