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Old 03-20-2012, 03:01 PM   #5281 (permalink)
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I don't class the Kurt Russell Reunion shows as PWG shows.
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:11 PM   #5282 (permalink)
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I haven't seen PWG outright ban those chants, they've just taken to Twitter to show their disgust for it.

There should be a level of self-responsibility that all fans should stick to, and when they don't I actually wouldn't have an issue with PWG evicting them. You may have a right to say something to a certain extent and "enjoy" yourself, but you also have the responsibility not to infringe on the enjoyment of others and heckling such as that is nothing more than atmosphere killing.

For the greater good, then, I wouldn't mind promotions evicting dumbasses if need be. Remember the 10-bell salute for Eddie Guerrero that was basically crapped on by one disrespectful fan? Did he have some right to freedom of expression in that instance? I suppose, but aside from the disrespect for Eddie it pulled on the emotions of the wrestlers involved and those who knew Eddie personally. He royally screwed up the atmosphere that night and left a bitter taste in the wrestlers' minds. They won't remember the fan, specifically, but the arena will hold that memory for them. Perhaps it's insignificant in the point of one fan, but as soon as it grows to a group of them (or even into a majority) the wrestlers will slowly lose interest in competing in those environments because of the continual heckling. As Kid Kamikaze10 touched on, I wouldn't be surprised if Strong etc pulled out altogether from PWG if these chants continue.

In a nutshell, these guys are nothing more than real-life trolls. Now, this forum allows for differing opinions and debates but when it boils down to nothing more than condescending, dickish behaviour the poster gets banned. Why should a wrestling promotion be any different? Chant what you wish, but remember it's not just you out there. You may feel thrilled to have insulted someone after paying $XX (I don't know the pricing) to watch someone wrestle but someone else paid $XX, too, and they expect the same level of enjoyment as you. Don't kill it for them; if you do, you shouldn't be there. It's just called manners.

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But it's still a PWG show, whether you can live with it or not.
Agreed.

A better way of stating it would perhaps to either mention the close-mindedness of premature judgment or rather that the OP should base their judgment on a show that isn't one of PWG's usually weaker cards (I get that's what Seabs meant, but I just didn't like his wording ).

That said, BoLA, Card Subject To Change, DDT4 (I'm not too sure about this year, but we might be pleasantly surprised) and All-Star Weekend will most certainly deliver.
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Is Excalibur talking about Kurt Russell Reunion III with that comment? Or did they do another show the other day?
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Old 03-20-2012, 03:25 PM   #5284 (permalink)
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Is Excalibur talking about Kurt Russell Reunion III with that comment? Or did they do another show the other day?
They did World's Finest Saturday.

And I'm probably in the minority, but unless the fans continue doing this beyond this one show I'll just chalk it up to the Curse of Reseda where after awhile the fans get out of line for a show, PWG verbally smacks them around, kicks a few out and things go back to "normal". Happened in 07, happened in 09 and looks like it happened again.
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I think PWG has every right to kick out a person if they begin to infringe on someone else's ability to enjoy the show. Its no different than if you are at a comedy show and there is some guy heckling the performer. The club or performer has the ability to say that they need to go because they would rather have one less person in attendance then many people going home unhappy. When you look at CHIKARA they may have one of the most polite fan bases out there. They usually boo the heels, cheer the faces, and don't swear. Every crowd could learn from them. I mean it is okay to swear but still within reason. If PWG actually kicked someone out for bad behavior I think it would send a message to all indy crowds in the best way.
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:20 PM   #5286 (permalink)
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Wait, wait, wait. PWG fans at the recent show started chanting "go back to ROH" to the guys that work there? And Roderick was one of them? What the fuck. Idiots. Roddy has been working with PWG, just about FULL TIME, since 2005. So, umm....what the hell was up with those idiots. I'm not much of a fan of O'Reilly, but that chant towards him was garbage too. ROH might be his home promotion for now, but if he continues to be in PWG then that will, and here is the shocker for those assholes, become a regular! Amazing, right? Did Steen or Generico get this treatment? I bet not. Which is equally as laughable only because they debuted in PWG first I guess. I'm not even a fan of ROH's current product and I still wouldn't have even thought of a chant like that.

I'll always love and support the majority of Independent wrestling. Without question. However, some fans of it are unbearable. PWG crowds are usually good for the majority. Apparently this one wasn't.

Garbage.
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:28 PM   #5287 (permalink)
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What are some of the best FIP matches and shows? I never really watched that company outside of some random matches.
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I think Roddy/Stevens from FIP Redefined is generally considered the best FIP match ever. I haven't seen it though since I never watched the company either.
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Cage of Pain II is worth a watch. Granted the whole fireball spot at the end didn't pan out well.
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Thanks. I've seen that Roddy/Stevens match, I believe.
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