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post #4551 of 10970 (permalink) Old 01-05-2012, 09:00 AM
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Yup, 2005. I got mixed up for a second. His ROH debut was February 25th against Spanky.
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post #4552 of 10970 (permalink) Old 01-05-2012, 11:04 AM
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PWS - Spring Break Showdown

1. Danny Demanto, Devon Moore & Kevin Matthews vs Road Dogg, Billy Gunn & X-Pac

2. Davey Richards vs Low Ki

3. Robbie E vs Fala

4. Necro Butcher vs Amazing Red

5. Joey Ayyo & Kronik The Clown vs The Urban Legends

6. Mia Yim vs Annie Social

7. Joel Maximo vs Pinkie Sanchez vs Javi-Air vs Tony Nese vs Shiima Xion vs Brian XL

Pretty bad. Crowd was really awful.
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post #4553 of 10970 (permalink) Old 01-05-2012, 12:29 PM
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Gibson wrestled Black Tiger at Manhattan Mayhem I thought. That was a really good show.

Unless they also wrestled at Best of American Super Juniors, which was not a good show.

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post #4554 of 10970 (permalink) Old 01-05-2012, 01:13 PM
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Gibson wrestled Black Tiger at Manhattan Mayhem I thought. That was a really good show.

Unless they also wrestled at Best of American Super Juniors, which was not a good show.
Yeah he wrestled Tiger at MM and Romero at a different show as well. BOSJ he wrestled Roddy in the first round and Dragon Soldier B in the 2nd.

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Geting these shows in the mail possibly today

CZW-Deja Vu 6
CZW-Triangle of Ultraviolence
IWAMS-King of The Death Matches 2011
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Forgot about Gibson/Strong at Unforgettable aka probably the most underrated ROH ever.

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post #4557 of 10970 (permalink) Old 01-06-2012, 01:36 AM
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PWG Cruisin for a Bruisin

Chris Hero vs. Claudio Castagnoli

I think I could watch these two wrestle all day at any point in their careers. For all the talk of everyone wanting to see Hero go to WWE to team with Claudio I think I would rather see them eventually wrestle each other on a big stage. This one was more light spirited early with Hero mocking Claudio's "Hey!" but the wrestling was still very impressive. When Claudio busts out an insane lucha move in the middle of a technical encounter you know that you could be in store for anything. I was happy to see that the intensity picked up as after the third handshake of the match Claudio attacked Hero from behind, took control of the match, and started to heel it up.

The change of pace took this from a fun match to a great match. Seeing them exchange all of these cool holds and everything is nice but when they use all of that stuff to build on the overall story of the match it's even better. Hero often fell into the trap of doing these long technical exchanges for the sake of doing them but in this case he got the best of Claudio time and time again and along with his mocking Claudio got pissed and took a cheap shot. In fact this was a perfectly worked match, everything you could ask for was in this and I don't know how anyone could possibly dislike it. A 20+ minute indy match with cool technical wrestling, stiff strikes, some crazy bumps, two great character, and an incredible story.

TJ Perkins vs. Alex Kozlov

I liked this one a lot. It wasn't anything too amazing but some really cool moves and nice technical wrestling. While there isn't anything on here that you haven't seen before I think it's an easy to watch undercard match. Kozlov has enough personality to keep this form being the typical indy match but it still wasn't far from that.

Zokre, Phoenix Star, and Top Gun Talwar vs. Ronin, Nemesis, and Disco Machine

This would be a great match to play the Arm Drag Drinking game to if you wanted to get really drunk really fast. The match was something unique which is always a plus, watching the same style of match over and over can quickly get boring. Biggest complaint is that it was kind of difficult to keep track of all the masked men because 3 of them (Zokre, Phoenix Star, and Nemesis) were all wearing black. The match was really just a bunch of spots but I don't recall any botches and it was fun to watch.

PWG Championship Match:

Joey Ryan(c) vs. Human Tornado

This had a very old school feel to it. Joey Ryan was hated by most of the people in the crowd and Tornado was the fans choice to face him. Making it better was that Joey actually acted like a heel in the match and people reacted to it. Joey Ryan is one of the few guys that I've seen that was able to actually get heat as a heel by doing stuff other than just sucking or the fans getting tired of him. He was just a total dick the whole match, and the fans really ate it up. Tornado has a pretty easy role to play but he did a great job with it. Joey was hated enough that I think anyone could have easily worked as a face against him but Tornado avoided being the generic face and actually showed some real character in this one.

You didn't get a clean ending by any means but it worked for everything that was Joey Ryan at the time. The match was still really good though, much better than I expected in all honesty. SO different from the kinds of matches that you see in PWG today and because of that I found it really refreshing. A good change of pace from the last two matches as well.

Scott Lost vs. Chris Bosh

I really wasn't a huge fan of this one at all. First off, it lasted a really long time and they wrestled at a pretty slow pace the entire time. There were plenty of cool moves but the match was just each guy exchanging control segments but there was really no suspense in the match. With all the big moves they hit I never felt they were leading anywhere. In fact I don't think there was a single near fall that I thought had a chance at ending the match. Entertaining enough I guess but they really should have taken a different approach to this.

2 out of 3 Falls:

Chris Sabin vs. B-Boy

I have no idea why this match had an added stipulation. By the end of the match Sabin ended up playing an underdog. The ending stretch was great but the whole match should have been like it and it easily could have if Sabin hadn't won the first fall. I mean when a match is best of 3 falls and a certain guy is going to play the underdog it makes no sense for that guy to go ahead early. Because they did this I had to sit through a fairly long stretch where it was just moves because Sabin wasn't able to play his role. Still, the first fall was good and once B-Boy got in control of the last fall it was awesome. Just dragged in the middle. Also setting up a crazy chair spot on the outside and never using the chairs is a terrible idea. There was some good and some bad. Overall I still enjoyed the match. I found myself caring at the end, which really surprised me because for a while I just wanted it to end.

PWG Tag Team Championship Match:
Davey Richards and Super Dragon(c) vs. Cape Fear (El Generico and Quicksilver)

Davey and Super Dragon are bullies. Cap Fear has one of the most likable wrestlers that I've ever seen. They meshed together perfectly. Everything I was afraid the match would be it wasn't. Yeah it had a lot of stiff strikes and other painful looking things in it but it all helped tell the story in the ring. It was a simple story, these 2 assholes are beating the shit out of the awesome guys in masks, but it worked. Davey showed more character in this match then he has in the last 2 years in ROH. He wasn't quite on Dragon's level of being an asshole but he was pretty close. Other then Steen there is nobody I've wanted Generico to kill more then Super Dragon during this match. Aside from all the cool looking moves the guy does he just comes across as the most unlikeable guy in the ring. Mocking the crowd by starting slow claps a couple times is fine, do it more than 10 times and I want to punch you in the fucking face.

The match built this hot tag to Generico for a really long time and it was awesome when he finally got in the ring and started beating the shit out of Super Dragon. Great job by Davey and Dragon though in the control segment because they kept it interesting. Normally the thought of a 10+ minute control segment is enough to make me want to avoid the match at all costs but the awesome heel tactics and moves made it one of the best parts of the match.

The ending stretch had me in total mark mode. Generico always sucks me into his matches and I always end up rooting for him. Well Quicksilver was pretty awesome here as well so I was going crazy watching the end of this one. It's one of those rare matches where you feel like a little kid rooting for the good guys. I would put it right up there with some of the amazing PWG matches that I've seen. This is something that everyone should go out of their way to see.

So this had 2 incredible matches including one of my favorite PWG matches. And there are some good matches in between as well. It's $10 on Highspots and it's also part of the 3 for $20 deal that Highspots has up as well. Well worth the money.

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post #4558 of 10970 (permalink) Old 01-06-2012, 02:22 AM
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IIRC B-Boy pinned Sabin in an earlier match, then Sabin pinned B-Boy in a 8-man tag to set that up. And Cape Fear was a pretty damn good team when they went all out. Amazing how many good teams and tag matches Generico's been on in PWG with Human Tornado, Quicksilver, Steen and London.

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post #4559 of 10970 (permalink) Old 01-06-2012, 09:22 AM
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Not too high on the cover. May pick the show up in their next sale.

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post #4560 of 10970 (permalink) Old 01-06-2012, 09:51 AM
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I like the font/text but not sure about the images. Sounded like a decent show from the live reports. I'm also so much more inclined to watch DVD shows than the tv show.
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