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Old 11-03-2011, 12:16 AM   #3591 (permalink)
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You really thought it was that bad? I completely loved it. It had a great story and great psychology, far more than the Hero/Edwards match (I'm not knocking that match by the way, I really like it). All of the technical stuff at the start of the match worked perfectly and actually helped advance the story of the match which I've gone through numerous times before and don't feel like doing it again lol.

Hero/Sabre is really great, Hero gets his arm worked over and sells it amazingly.

I personally don't see the criticism's of Hero , but I love his mat work and more often that not his matches have a good story and psychology that I really get in to. I can totally see people not digging his mat work and seeing it as 'broing' or whatever, but I love it. Hero is one of my favorite wrestlers and has been since 2009.
I thought it was horrible both times they locked up. Technical wrestling tells great stories but not when you are blatantly showing off and it goes on for Soooooooooooo long. And what is the point of not being able to do a move then doing it a second later?! It scratches my spirit with curiosity. If you are going to do all that work than at least make the crowd care at some point. Aries vs. Richards was fantastic because when Richards was getting legit offense and started killing Aries with his come back, the crowd was going APESHIT. I love storytelling and everything but you also got to have profit as well. Hero/Claudio was crap and that is putting it lightly. I'm still surprised people liked KOW/Bucks so much. That match started off great then just hit a wall of meh so fast for no reason.

Hero annoys the shit out of me at times. He is a great wrestler but he when he has some faults, it's fucking idiotic at times. It's pretty bad when ExCab & Steen are struggling to find a logical reason as to why Hero is letting Claudio getting counted out despite the champion retaining on a count out. Makes no sense.


Jawbreaker, I guess opinions will just be opinions. Edwards made Elgin look fantastic in the beginning, the middle, and end but he, however, lead the match. Elgin is still wet behind the ears and if given the chance against the guy who is fighting for the championship the next show, it is a better choice to let the higher up guy lead it since it will be guarantee not to fail. When Elgins killed Edwards in that match, he fucked him up.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:06 AM   #3592 (permalink)
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Magnum Pro Wrestling Battle Royale Cup 2011

David Clark vs Derek Cornell
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Arik Cannon vs Jaysin Strife
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Zack Sabre Jr. vs Brian Gott
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Akira Tozawa vs Supafli
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David Clark vs Jaysin Strife
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Zack Sabre Jr. vs Akira Tozawa
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Matt Cage, Christian Rose & Darin Corbin vs Tony Cortez, Abu Collosus & Derek Cornell
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Zack Sabre Jr. vs Jaysin Strife
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That looks a pretty damn good show, was that one of your SMV pickups? I've never heard of it before.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:36 AM   #3593 (permalink)
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That looks a pretty damn good show, was that one of your SMV pickups? I've never heard of it before.
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Old 11-03-2011, 07:23 AM   #3594 (permalink)
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I thought it was horrible both times they locked up. Technical wrestling tells great stories but not when you are blatantly showing off and it goes on for Soooooooooooo long. And what is the point of not being able to do a move then doing it a second later?! It scratches my spirit with curiosity. If you are going to do all that work than at least make the crowd care at some point. Aries vs. Richards was fantastic because when Richards was getting legit offense and started killing Aries with his come back, the crowd was going APESHIT. I love storytelling and everything but you also got to have profit as well. Hero/Claudio was crap and that is putting it lightly. I'm still surprised people liked KOW/Bucks so much. That match started off great then just hit a wall of meh so fast for no reason.

Hero annoys the shit out of me at times. He is a great wrestler but he when he has some faults, it's fucking idiotic at times. It's pretty bad when ExCab & Steen are struggling to find a logical reason as to why Hero is letting Claudio getting counted out despite the champion retaining on a count out. Makes no sense.
Fair enough, I said in my review the match wasn't for some people and I guess this proves my point. Are you talking about the rolling big boot spot? I liked that spot, to me it was Hero fighting through the pain (the first attempt showed just how much pain he was in) to deliver the killer blow but it still wasn't enough. That was my initial recation anyway. The crowd was just worn out I think, had the match been on earlier when everybody wasn't drunk and exhausted I think the reaction would have been much better for it. And the match definitely had a great story which I can't be bothered to type up again, but basically in their first match Hero was acting like he was better than Claudio, and in this one Claudio was out to prove that Hero certainly isn't better than him, and in the process Claudio turns in an awesome dick head performance and Hero is taken back by the whole thing, add that to the great leg work and selling and it was great IMO.

Anyway, we clearly have differing opinions on the match so lets just leave it at that. and, this is the dvd thread not the match thread, so....

Holt shit, Steen Wolf looks fucking amazing.
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Preview for Steen Wolf. If it wasn't confirmed as a must buy before, it is now, looks amazing.
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I wonder if certain someone is going to hate the Bucks/FS match after seeing all those superkicks

And that ladder match looks as sick as the first Ladder War, so I guess McQueen wont like it .
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Steen/Generico, Mack/Richards, FS/Bucks and Romero/TJP all look awesome.
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If you're referring to me that exchange did look pretty shite, still at least the Reseda crowd gave it a good reaction.

Mack's intense face did have me rolling originally, I pray there's more to the match than just the constant strike exchanges, they've got a real chance there to do some sequences where Mack outshines Richards and forces him to go to his strikes, hopefully it'll come off like the Hero BOLA match I've seen adored rather than Eddie/Roddy from the same show.

Steen/Generico looked bonkers tbh, I find it hard to rate ladder matches (though singles matches are usually easier) but given the history between them it'll at least make some of the more painful looking spots make sense in the context of the feud, appreciated the brawling outside of the ring as well. The sunset flip powerbomb looked horrifying when it freezes and you see Steen's neck and head hovering closely near the edge of that ladder, jesus.
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I watched PWG 8 over the weekend and I'm in the middle of BOLA which I'll finish tonight.

PWG is killing any other indy fed this year....no one is even close IMO. Can't wait for Steen Wolf!
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Segunda, I don't think there's anything wrong with strike exchanges if they are natural and fit into the flow of the match organically. From that brief highlight, it looked like they did a very good job of it for the most part. It was way more "going all out to win the match" and less "fighting spirit intensity!!!"
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