Originally Posted by Shirley Crabtree III
No. They draw. Therefore they're above the "I'm going to claim that the most popular wrestlers don't get a crowd response, because I'm in that adolescent phase where I want to stand out by being Mr. Opposite" critique.
When you've identified an actual fault with Eddie Edwards, of which there are a few, please feel free to discuss it. FYI someone who climbs a ladder, with a legit broken arm, knows how to create drama. Neither drama, nor crowd response, are things that are lacking, when it comes to Eddie Edwards.
This really is simple stuff. Like, Danielson does flips level basic.
for the love of god, look at yourself. you're the one who's being "Mr. Opposite" here. I've never thought Edwards was particularly good, but apparently I should have changed my mind once other people started to like him? in what fucking universe does that make sense? it's not about going against what other people think, it's about staying true to my opinions. if I see a good Edwards match (I've seen two, maybe three this year) I will point it out. I pointed it out when I saw a good WGTT match. I don't care about attention enough to pretend I believe something I don't. if people are going to pay attention to what I have to say, it had better be something I actually believe. something like "Eddie Edwards is not very good," for instance.
and as for being "Mr. Opposite", you're the one who claims that the Young Bucks aren't good heels, even though they actually get crowd heat and just about everyone on this board (myself included) thinks they're absolutely fantastic comedy heels.
and congratulations on ignoring the specific examples I provided of Edwards failing to get a crowd reaction. here they are again, for your benefit.
"I'm rewatching Richards/Edwards from BITW right now. There's a bit about half an hour in where Edwards applies the Achilles Lock in the center of the ring to absolutely no reaction. Seriously. Everyone in the Hammerstein is silent. About a minute later there's a rollup, with again, absolutely no reaction. This is the way Edwards won the title and nobody buys it.
Then they do a strike exchange that feels forced and devoid of character, Edwards kicks out of a whole bunch of shit and there's maybe four people across from the hard cam who react, and they do so halfheartedly at best. And then there's the finish, and the reaction is one of "oh wow he kicked him really hard" not "oh wow the match is about to be over".
Seriously, if you think there was any drama created in that match, look at the crowd and think again. Everyone is practically sitting on their hands in the first few rows. It was absolutely amazing in a kind of pathetic way."
When the entire crowd at a big huge show does not react to your finisher 30 minutes into a world title match, you are doing something wrong. Period.