[WOOLCOCK]

KingCal and Seabs have the Memphis and Mid South sets, and sell them far cheaper than the man who originally made them. Think they both have some WCCW but can't say for certain, and I've seen them have individual sets of wrestlers from the NWA as well.

Best to shoot both a PM.

[JD13]

Cheers

Sure i remember someone on here having a full run of NWA/WCW ppvs.

[Les Kellett Lariat]

Sorry Segunda but you're just not reading other people's posts. No matter how succinct they are.

I think you might also need to come to terms with the idea of Masters being shitcanned twice, by the only company that promotes these lactic-acid-filled bodybuilder types. I'd be stunned if he's still in the wrestling industry, this time next year. Sucks for his fans, I guess, but he's just not a good horse to be backing.

Originally Posted by jawbreaker

this argument again? they draw, therefore they're above critique?

No. They draw. Therefore they're above the "I'm going to claim that the most popular wrestlers don't get a crowd response, because I'm in that adolescent phase where I want to stand out by being Mr. Opposite" critique.

When you've identified an actual fault with Eddie Edwards, of which there are a few, please feel free to discuss it. FYI someone who climbs a ladder, with a legit broken arm, knows how to create drama. Neither drama, nor crowd response, are things that are lacking, when it comes to Eddie Edwards.

This really is simple stuff. Like, Danielson does flips level basic.

[enlightenedone9]

I like Eddie Edwards a lot but for a different reason all together. Eddie is a 2CW guy and that is my local promotion and I enjoy it a bunch. It isn't the greatest stuff in the world by any means but after seeing King of Trios this year I can say 2CW is pretty darn good for a local independent. Eddie Edwards is a big part why I enjoy the promotion. He always was putting on the best matches on the card and getting everyone on their feet. While that doesn't mean his matches are the greatest but for a company like 2CW that isn't the point. It is about getting a reaction from the crowd and Eddie Edwards does that better than anyone. He always gets quite a reaction when he steps in the ring for 2CW and for good reason. To the 2CW faithful, Eddie Edwards is sort of a hero based on his success in ROH. Now I'm not saying you have to enjoy his style.

[Bubz]

IMO Eddie is fantastic at doing moves, but not much else. His matches hardly ever have a workover/comeback structure because Eddie makes a comeback every 2 minutes and hits a shit ton of signaturte moves. I liked the Hero match because Hero got a good workover on Eddie's arm and he sold it well, but there was still a section of the match where he just started hitting signatures for no reason, then back to strike exchanges for a while which could have been cut out and the match would have been better for it. How is Eddie supposed to garner support as the 'underdog' when he never really plays a face in peril at all, instead he just always comes off as the equal to whoever he is facing because he's hitting moves every 2 minutes instead of just playing the FIP like a good babyface should. An example is the recent DBD match against Strong. Strong does a great job working over Eddie's back for a while, but Eddie never sells it past the moment he gets some kind of comeback, and then he wins the fall with his single leg crab, it didn't make any sense. He never works over the leg (apart from the PWG match against Generico), yet his finishing move is a leg submission, that's just wrestling logic 101.

I used to be on the side defending Eddie against complaints like that, but since the Hero match I started noticing these things more and more, and it's just gotten worse. I still like him, but his flaws are really quite detracting. It's gotten to the point where I no longer look forward to his matches anymore if I'm being honest.

Back to the Generico/Eddie match, I swear Generico just knows psychology and how to add story and character to a match, what I'm saying is if you put Eddie in a match with someone who knows how to do these things, he can be great and can produce excellent stuff.

[SuperDuperSonic]

Michael Bay makes people believe he makes quality films, that leads to him making lots of profit. So don't criticize him, ladies.

[Cactus]

I initially rubbed off this Edwards hate as just the IWC bitching about every little thing, but after watching BOLA, all his flaws are so much more obvious now. Before his match with Strong, I saw 3 great matches with a story to them. When I watched his match, I saw no story and no build-up and it stuck out like a sore thumb. Dammit guys, I can no longer enjoy an Edwards much much like you did to me with the Kurt Angle criticism. Grr.

[Fighter Daron]

Originally Posted by Legend

I really don't see the point in getting into a long-winded, pointless debate about such a subjective, uh, subject. That's why I didn't respond with a series of 'epic' fucking paragraphs. What do I think I'm going to achieve, brainwash you all or something? Please. I simply raised the topic because I was becoming annoyed that the WF's legion of Eddie haters were getting in their array of ceaseless snide digs over and over and over and over and... well, it was getting really fucking boring. You don't like Eddie Edwards. Good for you. Now please stop trying to convince those of us who don't think he's Satan in spandex that he's a worse in-ring performer than Kevin Nash. Give it a rest.

Perfect example, and when I say perfect, I mean PERFECT, of how throwing a stone and look to another side.

[SuperDuperSonic]

I always figured the point of a discussion forum is to have a discussion, not "okay, I don't like this topic anymore, stop discussing it."

I have the right to analyze and get as much in-depth as I'd like to. Just like you have the right to check yourself out of the discussion and go toss some salad with your uber-charismatic idol Eddie Edwards.

[bme]

Originally Posted by SuperDuperSonic

I always figured the point of a discussion forum is to have a discussion, not "okay, I don't like this topic anymore, stop discussing it."

I have the right to analyze and get as much in-depth as I'd like to. Just like you have the right to check yourself out of the discussion and go toss some salad with your uber-charismatic idol Eddie Edwards.

You'd think that initially but you'd then be proven wrong