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Old 11-01-2011, 02:49 PM   #3521 (permalink)
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Yeah, fuck wrestling, man, Eddie Edwards is garbage!
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Old 11-01-2011, 02:58 PM   #3522 (permalink)
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Nonsense. Plenty of what's been written on here about Edwards is legitimate & well-argued criticism. His matches often lack drama & clarity and the fans who chant his name & pop for his big moves end up falling silent for long spells.
Edwards has been, comfortably, one of the top three most over acts in North American underground wrestling all year - drawing record breaking attendances and iPPV buyrates for ROH. He's had MOTYC candidate matches, in more than one promotion, and has been an important part of, at least, two of the most dramatic wrestling moments of the year. This is all before Final Battle has even come around.

Any talk of Edwards not being able to get the desired reaction, not being able to create drama and not doing his job properly is a waste of everyone's time.

Some people need to learn to aim their criticism at a target that's within their reach.
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Old 11-01-2011, 03:00 PM   #3523 (permalink)
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Again, why can't people accept that the man to many people has flaws. We're not all going to love and adore the same people, some people can think Masters still sucks like its 2005 but so long as they at least try and make a factual claim as to why they've taken that opinion, you won't see me flipping out.

I'm an old school guy, guys like Finlay have a better claim to be current BITW material than Edwards or 99% of workers anywhere in the world because the guy just gets pro wrestling, you put him in any situation to get a young guy over, or to get the young guy heat etc and he'll work a great match with him and make the guy look a star. Eddie Edwards gets asked to make someone look good and he thinks superkick exchanges and multiple impressive moves will do the trick, no-one is calling him the worst worker to grace the earth and truth be told he's annoyed me less than Davey in the past, but he still has problems in my view that make me think him being the best worker in the world or the future of pro wrestling is a laughable/worrying thought.

Rather than try and challenge any of the valid and stated points the three of you have just gone into a shell and thrown out hyperbole and put words into people's mouths, you can think he's a great wrestler all you want if he appeals and entertains you but be prepared to accept liking him is subjective and there's no fact that makes him an elite worker untouchabe of criticism. All the best workers will have their detractors since people like a wide variety of wrestling styles, I myself have changed my opinion 360 degrees on so many workers it isn't even funny as well as developing new styles and tastes that have led me to accessing numerous promotions I'd never heard of 2 years ago.

If Eddie Edwards being accused of a man who very rarely gets the most out of his spots and is over reliant on these impressive spots to pad out his matches to the point where they lose their impact is such a disputed view, then type out a coherent retort instead of acting like we're in the TNA section and its 'cool' to reply in sentence form bashing the other party.

It ain't bloody hard.

EDIT: Crabtree that's laughable, hell Richards/Edwards had a notoriously quiet crowd who peaked volume wise in spurts but never consistently made the atmosphere I was expecting, probably because both men took such extraordinary abuse in tandem with little set up or selling of the afterfects that it was hard to buy into either man being in danger and thus no-one to root for. You've just side stepped any criticism and labelled him 'untouchable', which is BS considering I've seen you tear into a lot of wrestlers who've produced great matches and helped the business, finance wise (Jooooooooooooooooooooooohn Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeena rings a bell) and its laughable to see you just crawl into a shell and try to block out any criticisms. Neither of us can be right/wrong since its a subjective opinion which people will naturally support or disagree with, at least me and Jawbreaker and flag sabbath are actually discussing the matter at hand, rather than trying to psycho analyse how 'Die Hard Eddie Edwards' has fallen fowl of the WF Other Wrestling Section.

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Edwards has been, comfortably, one of the top three most over acts in North American underground wrestling all year - drawing record breaking attendances and iPPV buyrates for ROH. He's had MOTYC candidate matches, in more than one promotion, and has been an important part of, at least, two of the most dramatic wrestling moments of the year. This is all before Final Battle has even come around.

Any talk of Edwards not being able to get the desired reaction, not being able to create drama and not doing his job properly is a waste of everyone's time.

Some people need to learn to aim their criticism at a target that's within their reach.
I'm not questioning his successes or denying the prevalent opinions on the quality of his matches. I just find it ridiculous when valid gripes & differences of opinion are dismissed as being part of some imagined backlash bandwagon.
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Well this happens to many wrestlers. Briscoes were the MVPs of 2007 by a mile and got shitted on by everyone right after. The same happened with Nigel, Black, and even Richards. Brutal but that is just how it happens. Now it seems Eddie is getting it randomly. I thought his reign was great but all his matches just had shitty finishes. The only real bad match he has had was against Roderick at DBD. Man.....that match was horrible.
How dare you to compare Edwards and Nigel?, how in the blue hell?
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Again, why can't people accept that the man to many people has flaws. We're not all going to love and adore the same people, some people can think Masters still sucks like its 2005 but so long as they at least try and make a factual claim as to why they've taken that opinion, you won't see me flipping out.
Masters had made major improvements . Just wanted to say that. However, I'm not denying Edwards has flaws because every wrestler notably does. Eddie Edwards is just being picked out because it is that time of the year. Eddie Edwards biggest problem is that he has no personality. That being said, you don't have to be a great wrestler and have personality. Jack Evans has more personality than 90% of the indy scene yet I eat a needle sandwich before I watch him(Play on words). Eddie has great storytelling mind and is even able to work with guys like Roderick despite that. Is there times that there is that to be desired? Yes. His match with Roderick at DBD was horrible. Should of never happened but when you place a wrestler outside of his element, it isn't going to look great. Daniel Bryan was not that good really at MITB at all but if he and Edwards switched places, they would of been better.



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I'm an old school guy, guys like Finlay have a better claim to be current BITW material than Edwards or 99% of workers anywhere in the world because the guy just gets pro wrestling, you put him in any situation to get a young guy over, or to get the young guy heat etc and he'll work a great match with him and make the guy look a star. Eddie Edwards gets asked to make someone look good and he thinks superkick exchanges and multiple impressive moves will do the trick, no-one is calling him the worst worker to grace the earth and truth be told he's annoyed me less than Davey in the past, but he still has problems in my view that make me think him being the best worker in the world or the future of pro wrestling is a laughable/worrying thought.

Get over yourself. Eddie has had the best match with Elgin thus far and O'Reily getting murdered by Eddie was hell of fun. He also went out of his way to make Hero look amazing in their title match in what is Hero's best match by a mile.

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Rather than try and challenge any of the valid and stated points the three of you have just gone into a shell and thrown out hyperbole and put words into people's mouths, you can think he's a great wrestler all you want if he appeals and entertains you but be prepared to accept liking him is subjective and there's no fact that makes him an elite worker untouchabe of criticism. All the best workers will have their detractors since people like a wide variety of wrestling styles, I myself have changed my opinion 360 degrees on so many workers it isn't even funny as well as developing new styles and tastes that have led me to accessing numerous promotions I'd never heard of 2 years ago.
Eddie is a flawed wrestler but every other wrestler out there is as well. My current wrestler of the year(RKO) isn't even flawless but doesn't mean he is bad. The IWC's baby boy Daniel Bryan has his fair share of flaws to but that doesn't mean he isn't one of the best.


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It ain't bloody hard.
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I think I've made it clear how ridiculous the "no drama", "no reaction", "no viewer investment" criticisms are. All complete fallacies.

I don't really want to waste OW space discussing people that have failed to deliver, in the WWE, but if you must...

John Cena is largely responsible for the deceleration of the growth of the post-Lesnar WWE. He stands as the only Superman-pushed star in living WWE memory not to instigate a wrestling boom. It's now a decade since wrestling was last socially relevant. Not good.

If you think that Chris Masters' was "over" on a C-Show with canned audio, then there's very little that I can add. I don't know where the evidence of his body of amazing, dramatic, deep and meaningful work is. All I've seen are 5mins, inconsequential, ultra-choreographed, filler matches. As a disposable WWE extra, if he ever had any talent, he never had the opportunity to show it. He's certainly never had a Windham-esque broadway. Any claim that Masters did have talent would have to be based entirely on guesswork.
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