[jawbreaker]

Originally Posted by McQueen

You'll be the guy frantically yelling about how WGTT is the worst thing to happen to ROH ever.

I had an exceptionally lucid dream the other night wherein I explained in great detail to Jim Cornette why WGTT need to leave the company and why Roderick Strong is awesome as a heel and how they need to have more people follow his lead. He seemed receptive to my ideas.

And then I woke up and slowly realized that WGTT are still the tag champs and everyone still thinks Strong is boring and belongs in the midcard.

[Les Kellett Lariat]

I've got visions of dream Corny going "By jove! Yes! More people who look like plain babyfaces and have no presence need to be main event heels, that lead Rocky Horror-influenced factions. Goshdarnit! Eureka! It worked so well for Roderick's drawing power, it'll work again.".

[jawbreaker]

Roddy is one of the best character workers on the indies right now and if you don't see it you're not paying attention. That's all I can say at this point. That and if you still care about look you should go back to WWE and TNA.

[SuperDuperSonic]

Maybe he should grow his hair out a little bit, similar to Gregory House and Steve Borden. Slick the hair back maybe like Punk and Benoit.

It'd also be nice if they way that he carried himself had some kind of swagger. Davey (although it comes across as fairly artificial) has a different approach than everyone else when he walks through the curtain.

Years ago, I recall Jericho saying he couldn't distinguish between Aries & Strong, because they had no kind of unique characteristic to them. And the contrast for where both of them are now is frightening - Aries turned into one of the most hilarious douche-bags in the industry, and Strong is still the same, if not duller. I don't know anything about him when he walks out, and he should have that figured out by now after being in the industry for about a decade. What the fuck is a new fan supposed to even FEEL about Strong or Edwards when they first see them?

Look at the most "boring" personalities in history. Benoit? You KNEW when he walked through that curtain someone was gonna get their fucking ass whipped. Steamboat? You knew he was a never-say-die babyface with skill and when the time came for it, knew how to convincingly convey anger. Danielson? When he's actually given a direction, you know what he's about - a textbook athlete, or a cocky asshole, or a comedy jokester, depending on what his mood is.

[Spliff Huxtable]

Rod Strong is the 2nd worst champion in ROH history.

Never again.

[Jack Evans 187]

I sent the email to ROHHelp a week ago with all the info. Hopefully it doesn't matter that I typed aol instead of AOL. Guess I'll just have to wait and see if I get a shirt in the mail sometime soon.

[jawbreaker]

Originally Posted by SuperDuperSonic

Maybe he should grow his hair out a little bit, similar to Gregory House and Steve Borden. Slick the hair back maybe like Punk and Benoit.

It'd also be nice if they way that he carried himself had some kind of swagger. Davey (although it comes across as fairly artificial) has a different approach than everyone else when he walks through the curtain.

Years ago, I recall Jericho saying he couldn't distinguish between Aries & Strong, because they had no kind of unique characteristic to them. And the contrast for where both of them are now is frightening - Aries turned into one of the most hilarious douche-bags in the industry, and Strong is still the same, if not duller. I don't know anything about him when he walks out, and he should have that figured out by now after being in the industry for about a decade. What the fuck is a new fan supposed to even FEEL about Strong or Edwards when they first see them?

Look at the most "boring" personalities in history. Benoit? You KNEW when he walked through that curtain someone was gonna get their fucking ass whipped. Steamboat? You knew he was a never-say-die babyface with skill and when the time came for it, knew how to convincingly convey anger. Danielson? When he's actually given a direction, you know what he's about - a textbook athlete, or a cocky asshole, or a comedy jokester, depending on what his mood is.

see, everything you're saying Strong should do here is exactly what I'm seeing him do. the way he carries himself, his facial expressions, the way he moves in the ring, it's all improved so much in just the last year that it's almost mindblowing. It's very subtle, it's not your typical WRESTLING CHARACTER in capital letters, but it's so much more realistic the way he does it.

Strong had no character in 2005. He looked like more of a badass, sure, but he didn't have a character. When he first turned heel, he didn't really have a character. When he won the title he didn't even have a character. It started to show up in the Davey match at Final Battle and really broke out in the Jay Briscoe match in January. Then there was the Generico feud, which had some more very good character performances, and then last month the DBD match with Edwards, which was one of the best performances I've seen from a single wrestler all year.

I get that nobody thinks Strong can have a good character. He can't cut a promo, and he'd never done it in the past. I have no idea where it came from, personally. But once you get over your preconceptions and actually start to notice what it is he's doing you might realize that not only is he a great heel, he's one of the best at it today.

Or if you're Crabtree you'll think he looks too generic to be a good heel.

[musdy]

Originally Posted by Spliff Huxtable

Rod Strong is the 2nd worst champion in ROH history.

Never again.

Jerry Lynn was worse.

[SuperDuperSonic]

Originally Posted by jawbreaker

see, everything you're saying Strong should do here is exactly what I'm seeing him do. the way he carries himself, his facial expressions, the way he moves in the ring, it's all improved so much in just the last year that it's almost mindblowing. It's very subtle, it's not your typical WRESTLING CHARACTER in capital letters, but it's so much more realistic the way he does it.

Strong had no character in 2005. He looked like more of a badass, sure, but he didn't have a character. When he first turned heel, he didn't really have a character. When he won the title he didn't even have a character. It started to show up in the Davey match at Final Battle and really broke out in the Jay Briscoe match in January. Then there was the Generico feud, which had some more very good character performances, and then last month the DBD match with Edwards, which was one of the best performances I've seen from a single wrestler all year.

I get that nobody thinks Strong can have a good character. He can't cut a promo, and he'd never done it in the past. I have no idea where it came from, personally. But once you get over your preconceptions and actually start to notice what it is he's doing you might realize that not only is he a great heel, he's one of the best at it today.

Or if you're Crabtree you'll think he looks too generic to be a good heel.

When he walks through the curtain, you have not a clue about Roderick Strong. The same goes with Eddie Edwards.

He has awesome matches with great little details. Yay. But he needs to tell me something with his face and body (not verbally) when he walks through that curtain.

[smitlick]

Originally Posted by musdy

Jerry Lynn was worse.

Yep. So was Xavier so hes at least 3rd.