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post #3091 of 10976 (permalink) Old 09-29-2011, 07:23 PM
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I think I've pimped the Black/Danielson vs. Richards/Edwards tag from Double Feature II like a million times and I'll do it again here because that is among the best matches I've ever seen.

other great Dragon shit from 09:

ROH

vs. El Generico, Proving Ground 09 Night 2
vs. Tyler Black, one of the HDNet shows
vs. Davey Richards, FCT: Boston

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vs. Kenny Omega, One Hundred
w/Roderick Strong vs. Motor City Machine Guns, DDT4
vs. Chris Hero, Guerre Sans Frontières

CHIKARA

w/Claudio Castagnoli/Dave Taylor vs. Johnny Saint/Mike Quackenbush/Jorge Rivera, King of Trios 2009 Night 2
w/Claudio Castagnoli vs. Mike Quackenbush/Jigsaw, Hiding in Plain Sight

All of those range from ****1/4 to ****3/4, with the Tag Title Classic getting the full five.

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Don't forget Black vs. Joe.

Tyler was awesome, when Gabe was booking him and he hadn't lost his mystique by talking.

I think I can appreciate him more now because, during his time in ROH, I always thought "this is a WWE guy". He was never going to be in ROH for more than two or three years. He's always had that HBK/Jeff Hardy teeny bopper appeal to him.

Definitely don't see him as indyriffic, McQueen, quite the opposite. Steen and Generico are classic examples of being indyriffic. Guys like Claudio and Tyler aren't, hence why they have WWE deals.
Black vs Joe didn't do much for me, but probably because TNA had broken my perception of Joe by that point. It was just nice seeing Joe back in an ROH ring one last time.

Well tbh, its been quite a while since i've sat down and watched a Black match but I find him more indyriffic than Steen, i'd say Steen looking like Steen is a bigger reason why he hasn't been picked up, but who knows. Generico arguement is valid though, but who cares since Generico is fun to watch. Can't say I feel the same about as much of Black's work. Don't hate Black, just not really a fan I guess.

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I loved Black during his last 5 months in ROH once his title reign got rolling. His defenses were all fantastic against Aries, Strong, Hero, Davey, and Steen. He also had some great non-title matches with Davey, Daniels, and Claudio.
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Jerry Lynn becoming ROH Champion makes me not want any shows from that time peroid. Although I wanna catch some of Aries' 2nd title reign.



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It was a terrible time during the Jerry Lynn reign. But the defense against Hero is must-see, as are all of the Wolves defenses.
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I think I've pimped the Black/Danielson vs. Richards/Edwards tag from Double Feature II like a million times and I'll do it again here because that is among the best matches I've ever seen.
Oh yeah, this match is amazing, ***** from me. One of the very best.

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It was a terrible time during the Jerry Lynn reign. But the defense against Hero is must-see, as are all of the Wolves defenses.
I need to catch up on the Wolves and such. There was a good year and a half when I stopped watching WWE that I abandoned ROH too. Trying to make up for lost time, got alot of their matches on my hard drive though.



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Black vs Joe didn't do much for me, but probably because TNA had broken my perception of Joe by that point. It was just nice seeing Joe back in an ROH ring one last time.

Well tbh, its been quite a while since i've sat down and watched a Black match but I find him more indyriffic than Steen, i'd say Steen looking like Steen is a bigger reason why he hasn't been picked up, but who knows. Generico arguement is valid though, but who cares since Generico is fun to watch. Can't say I feel the same about as much of Black's work. Don't hate Black, just not really a fan I guess.
I loved Black vs. Joe, it was a really important part in Black's slow turn. Interesting shades of grey. Plus, Joe then, compared to Joe now, is LOLworthy night and day.

Steen's look is part of what makes him indyriffic, for me. That's a big part of my definition. He also has that niche gimmick that a lot of people might find offensive or too unorthodox. A lot of his best matches are bloody or gimmicky too.

None of this is a bad thing though. I prefer the indyriffic guys.

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