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Old 08-13-2011, 01:30 AM   #2691 (permalink)
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I totally agree with the idea of not baiting and switching people but you need to understand that the opinion that WGTT haven't added anything to ROH is only held by an extremely small minority of people. It's mostly a meme that's sprung up around you, on this one forum. Much like the anti-Davey schtick.

If you're in touch with ROH's wider internet presence, have seen the majority of ROH-related comments in the non-ROH sections of forums or are aware of the buyrates that WGTT have brought in, you'll know that no-one has a problem with them. Far from it. They're the most talked about act in Ring of Honor.

As far as the drawing goes...

GBHIX is the best selling DVD in the history of the current online shop. This just happens to be the one DVD, that features WGTT, that's been available for longer than any others. It's a shit show, that's main USP is the WGTT debut and the quality of that match.

9AS and HTCS drew surprisingly high buyrates. Those shows were main evented by WGTT. They're also, apparently, amongst the fastest-selling DVD releases in ROH history.

The lengths that you'll go to, to oversell your dislike of someone/something (i.e. "worst team in the company") aren't doing you any favours. Acting as though WGTT need to spend time training under such well-rounded, seasoned veterans as Cole & O'Reilly is obviously some kind of joke, on your part. No-one could truly believe that.

Regardless, your opinion of an act isn't relevant to ROH's business. Making out as though it is, makes you seem much less intelligent than you actually are. If you're going to question business practice, you have to put personal bias aside. There's absolutely no question that WGTT should be contracted to ROH, it's not even remotely debatable. The numbers don't lie. Contracting them is, in no way, a "bad move" and I think you know that.
I'm not denying that they have drawn. What I'm saying is that they've been pretty fucking bad, to the point where calling them the worst team in ROH isn't even an exaggeration. And the novelty will wear off, and once it does, ROH is going to look pretty stupid for having the belts on them.

I mean, people give TNA shit all the time for pushing ex-WWE guys over their own, probably superior, wrestlers. Does anyone talk about how it's a smart business decision when TNA does it? Didn't they do a nWo reunion angle last year? It got people to watch the show for a while, it sold a bunch of PPVs, but has it really worked out in the long term?

ROH's calling card is and always has been that they are an alternative to WWE and TNA for people who want good wrestling. Abandoning that to make a quick buck is not a good idea in the long term. Look at Jerry Lynn.

I'm totally serious about them being the worst team in ROH, too. And while they obviously won't, they could learn tons from Cole and O'Reilly, Cole in particular. It sounds ridiculous because he's been wrestling for like two years, but I'd say Cole is comfortably a top ten wrestler in the indies, and when he gets better at execution of shit he could be among the best in the world.
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Old 08-13-2011, 07:48 AM   #2692 (permalink)
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ROH - Manhattan Mayhem IV

1. Michael Elgin/Mike Mondo vs Kyle O'Reilly/Adam Cole
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2. Tommaso Ciampa vs Grizzly Redwood
*1/2

3. Steve Corino vs Mike Bennett
**1/2

4. The All Night Express vs The Briscoe Brothers
***1/2

5. TJ Perkins vs El Generico
***1/4

6. The Kings of Wrestling vs LAX
***3/4

7. Pure Rules
Christopher Daniels vs Davey Richards
****

8. ROH Title Match
Roderick Strong vs Eddie Edwards
****

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Old 08-13-2011, 10:19 AM   #2693 (permalink)
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That show is Manhattan Mayhem IV.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:55 AM   #2694 (permalink)
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lol thanks was watching honor takes center stage while typing that so clearly got confused
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:21 PM   #2695 (permalink)
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ROH - Honor Takes Center Stage - Chapter One

1. Michael Elgin vs El Generico
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2. Caleb Konley vs Tommaso Ciampa vs Homicide vs Colt Cabana
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3. Sara Del Rey/Serena Deeb vs Hiroyo Matsumoto/Ayumi Kurihara
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4. Adam Cole/Kyle O'Reilly vs The Briscoe Brothers
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5. Roderick Strong vs Davey Richards
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6. ROH World Tag Team Title Match
Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team vs The Kings of Wrestling
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7. ROH World Title Match
Eddie Edwards vs Christopher Daniels
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I'm not denying that they have drawn. What I'm saying is that they've been pretty fucking bad, to the point where calling them the worst team in ROH isn't even an exaggeration. And the novelty will wear off, and once it does, ROH is going to look pretty stupid for having the belts on them.

I mean, people give TNA shit all the time for pushing ex-WWE guys over their own, probably superior, wrestlers. Does anyone talk about how it's a smart business decision when TNA does it? Didn't they do a nWo reunion angle last year? It got people to watch the show for a while, it sold a bunch of PPVs, but has it really worked out in the long term?

ROH's calling card is and always has been that they are an alternative to WWE and TNA for people who want good wrestling. Abandoning that to make a quick buck is not a good idea in the long term. Look at Jerry Lynn.

I'm totally serious about them being the worst team in ROH, too. And while they obviously won't, they could learn tons from Cole and O'Reilly, Cole in particular. It sounds ridiculous because he's been wrestling for like two years, but I'd say Cole is comfortably a top ten wrestler in the indies, and when he gets better at execution of shit he could be among the best in the world.
lol, I am dying laughing at this post. I agree the Bravados are so much better than World's Greatest Tag Team!
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Old 08-13-2011, 02:58 PM   #2697 (permalink)
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The Bravados aren't having dull matches for 15+ minutes.
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Purely based on ROH this year The Bravados have blown Haas & Benjamin out of the water. Bravados are genuinely great btw. They've shown they can really work in the ring and they're probably the best promo ROH have other than Steen and Corino and Jacobs.
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:24 PM   #2699 (permalink)
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lol, I am dying laughing at this post. I agree the Bravados are so much better than World's Greatest Tag Team!
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OK, let's all slow down the Bravado Bandwagon. They've had good matches but they've all been against Cole & O'Reilly. Speaks more to how good those two are then anything the Bravados have done. And yeah they're a better promo then Shelton, but who isn't?

Besides Roderick.
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