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#9,303 ·
I actually prefer their BOLA match to Steen Wold. Both are fantastic, but I put the BOLA encounter at **** 3/4. The storytelling with the kid in the crowd is just amazing.
I think I'm one of the only people that agree with you on this. I loved the Steen Wolf match , but he BOLA match takes it for me. Hard to decide between the Final Battle and BOLA match for me, just how perfect it was for a big blowoff.
 
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Steen vs. Generico feud, when looking at both PWG and ROH might be the best indy feud ever. I'm not sure if any other feud can claim to have this many good matches/moments

Steen's turn is probably the most shocked I've ever been at an indy show. I honestly thought I was hearing his retirement speech.
Steen/Generico Death Before Dishonor VIII ***1/2
Steen/Kendrick vs. London/Generico (some PWG show) ***1/2
Steen/Corino vs. Cabana/Generico ROH Bitter Friends Stiffer Enemies ****1/2 (that's what my review that I pulled up said)
Steen/Corino vs. Cabana/Generico Chain match ****
Steen vs. Generico Final Battle 2010 ****3/4
Steen vs. Generico BOLA ****1/2-****3/4
Steeb vs. Generico Steen Wolf ****3/4

I haven't seen their more recent ROH matches and I know I'm missing one or two of their matches from the early part of the feud.
 
#9,328 ·
IWA East Coast is worth checking out too. They were hot in '07-'09. If you're looking for hardcore/deathmatch, Masters Of Pain is an excellent place to start. '06, '07, and '08 are amazing. '09 is okay too. Smart Mark Video also has a Best Of IWA East Coast. I have it, haven't watched it but the listing seems good. I also recommend the SMV Best On The Indies DVDs of Joker, Sami Callihan, Jon Moxley, and Adam Cole.

Also, you didn't mention them, but Prime Wrestling is a good promotion to watch. They have a lot of stars from the promotions you mentioned, and a lot of under-rated talent. They upload their weekly TV show to http://www.youtube.com/PRIMEwrestlingTV
 
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Chikara - While The Dawn Is Breaking

1. Mr Touchdown vs Saturyne
**3/4

2. Gran Akuma vs Jakob Hammermeier
**

3. Archibald Peck vs Tim Donst
*1/2

4. F.I.S.T. vs The Colony
***

5. Dasher Hatfield vs Kobald
**1/4

6. Mike Quackenbush, Hallowicked & Frightmare vs The Shard, deviAnt & Jigsaw
***1/2

7. Eddie Kingston vs Kevin Steen
***3/4

8. The Young Bucks vs 3.0
****​
 
#9,344 ·
Entertainment match is horrific. Even more so when you consider what EVOLVE was originally meant to be. You can imply that a match will be less serious and more of a comedy match but billing as an "Entertainment Match" is so fucking stupid. Basically says the purpose of this match is not to win but to entertain. In a promotion built around the importance of wins and losses.
 
#9,419 ·
Just ordered PWG All Star Weekend 9, both nights :mark:. Already watched it but it was too good to not have it retail. Who needs that pile of trash that was WrestleMania when I you have this :mark:
 
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Surprised nobody's mentioned the hilarious moment of Swann saying "who wants to see a dropkick" and Steen throws up a perfect dropkick to his face during the power flippy match. Best part of the entire ASW.
 
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The entire match is just filled with awesomeness. Like I said, one of the most entertaining matches I've ever seen.
 
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PWG All Star Weekend 9 Night 2

Jay Lethal vs. Willie Mack: ***

Chuck Taylor & Johnny Gargano vs. The Rockness Monsters: ***1/4

Paul London vs. Trent?: ***

The Inner City Machine Guns & AR Fox vs. The Unbreakable F'N Steen Machines: ****3/4 (fucking unreal match)

Samuray Del Sol vs. TJ Perkins: ***1/2

Sami Callihan vs. Kyle O'Reilly: ***3/4

PWG World Tag Team Championship Title Match:
The Young Bucks© vs. DojoBros: ****1/4 (The Young Bucks do it again!)

PWG World Championship Title Match:
Adam Cole© vs. Drake Younger: **1/2

Aside from the weak main event this show was stellar.
 
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PWG All Star Weekend 9 Night One

Kevin Steen vs Paul London ***3/4

FIST vs Young Bucks ****1/4

Jay Lethal vs Eddie Edwards ***

AR Fox & Samuray Del Sol vs Inner City Machine Guns ****3/4

Roderick Strong vs Trent? ***1/4

Future Shock vs The Unbreakable FN Machines ***1/2

Guerrilla Warfare: Sami Callihan vs Drake Younger ****

Overall thoughts: God this was an awesome show. Steen/London may end up being opener of the year, FIST/Bucks was really fucking good, Lethal/Edwards wasn't as bad as I was expecting, AR SDS/ICMG is like my #2 MOTY at this point, Strong/Trent was a nice showcase for Trent I thought, FS/Machines felt a tad too long, and the main even was sick. Overall, this was a very good show and I can't wait to watch Night Two.
 
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PWG - All Star Weekend 9: Night One

Kevin Steen vs. Paul London - *** 3/4

The Young Bucks vs. Chuck Taylor & Johnny Gargano - *** 3/4

Eddie Edwards vs. Jay Lethal - **

AR Fox & Samuray Del Sol vs. Inner City Machine Guns (Ricochet & Rich Swann) - *** 3/4

Roderick Strong vs. Trent? - ** 1/2

Future Shock vs. Unbreakable F'N Machines (Brian Cage & Michael Elgin) - ** 3/4

#1 Contender's Guerrilla Warfare Match
Drake Younger vs. Sami Callihan - *** 3/4


Overall: 8.25/10

- Damn good opener, lot of fun in the beginning and then they started wrasslin and it got even better. Quite surprised by the outcome, but London is looking really good out there (MUCH better than his 2010/2011 indy run) and I hope he sticks around cause he could have some great underdog performances against guys like Elgin, Cage, & Strong. Make it happen!

- Bucks vs. Ronin was wildly fun. First few minutes were a blast and when the FIP segment started with Gargano I got really excited that it would turn into something special, buuuut after he made the hot tag they just kind of abandoned all structure. :p Either way it was still a ton of fun and the Bucks pump these sequences out like they're doing them in their sleep or something. Make it look easy every match. Oh and I forgot to mention, Taylor is lookin to be in the best shape of his career right now, cut down on some of that baby fat and got some definition goin. Makes me dislike him a little less. :p

- Edwards vs. Lethal started out pretty great with the hammerlock & pin exchanges, but then it just went to all fuck. So much no selling to the point where you could anticipate whatever was happening wasn't gonna mean anything cause it was just gonna lead to a superkick or suplex or something. There is one reason to watch it though, and that's for the HILARIOUS spot where Lethal gets two fans to whip into a prone Edwards, but he just sells it like they whipped him back first into the ring post. So unexpected, had me laughing hard. Lethal in particular here really stunk it up with his incredibly slow pacing in setting up spots or just taking forever to do anything. No reason for this to go damn near 20 minutes either.

- WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK. Ricochet is the most amazing wrestler I've ever seen in all my life, no doubt about it. The man is incredible and he steals the whole damn show with his performance in the tag match. The sequence with Del Sol was batshit nuts and it didn't even look like they were trying. One day though Del Sol is just gonna destroy his ACL if he keeps doing that one leg springboard corkscrew. That looks way too dangerous. The last 4 or 5 minutes of this were just ridiculous, especially that Swann ace crusher counter where he does the handstand and that insane sequence in the corner right before they murder Del Sol with the double superkicks. Chucky T on commentary was grand as well. "I can't fucking do any of that!" :lol

- I won't lie, I fell asleep watching Roderick/Trent last night and started in the middle today. Didn't think it was a bad match, it just seemed completely forgettable and out of place on the card when you have so much other balls to the wall shit goin on around it. Decent showing from Trent I guess but nothing to really make him stick out.

- Future Shock vs. Fuckin Machines was hit or miss for me. There was several things I liked, like Elgin forcing Cole to suck his dick (not literal people), the 60 second switch off suplex to Cole, & then the very last sequence where Elgin kicks out of the Canadian Destroyer & they just MURDER O'Reilly with power moves. Then there was the rest, which just felt really long, paced oddly, and had some sloppy exchanges. No need for this to go over 20 minutes really and it was hard for me to believe Elgin & O'reilly are standing there having forearm exchanges and Elgin isn't just running over this guy.

- What in the HELL did I just witness in this Guerrilla Warfare match? Drake Younger clearly is not human. What mortal man is gonna take THAT many huge bumps, have the top of his head sliced open, be thrown into thumbtacks repeatedly, have his face stapled multiple times, SALT thrown in his wounds(literally!) and not only win the match, but live to tell about it!? That was all just crazy, but a couple smaller things I really liked were Sami's kick to the back of the knee when Drake was on the turnbuckle (I love that so much when he does it) & Drake's counter to the stretch muffler by throwing THUMB TACKS in Sami's eyes. That was cool as shit. Really the only problem I had with this & the reason I wouldn't say it's MOTYC material was that the finish felt really rushed. After all the shit Drake was put through I really would've liked to see a big flurry to put Sami away, not just one move. Small complaint though, great match to end a great show with just a couple oddball matches.
 
#9,557 ·
Think we went through the HD net gems before. Black vs Danielson, Danielson vs Roderick, the fun tables match between Steenerico vs Wolves, Strong/Kenta and Danielson (Sounds so badass as a team) vs Hero/Wolves and a really good babyface Young Bucks vs The Wolves. Some many great gems, just a few that come to mind. The Wolves were on fire in 2009.
 
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Is it bad that I've replayed the image of Freight Train eating a doughnut at least ten times now :lmao I love this guy more and more every time I see him.

But yeah, Adam is really cool. I watched his SMV BOTI shoot and listened to his AOW podcast as well so I already knew or was aware of a lot of the stuff they go on about, but Steen just seems to have a great dynamic with everybody and makes it really enjoyable. Cole is as beautiful as usual and it's a really easy way to pass two hours.
 
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EVOLVE 20

Gargano/Jackson - ***1/4
Cage/C Taylor - **1/2
FRAY! - ***1/4+
Eita/TT - ***1/2
Bravado's/Dunkerton & Chicago - N/R
Nese/Del Sol - ***1/2
Jackson/Fox - ***1/4+

EVOLVE 21

Konley/T Taylor - **1/4
Dorado/Vandal - **
Bravado's/Ryze & Everett - **1/2
Davis/Taylor - ****
Bucks/Cage & Nese - ***3/4
Strickland/Del Sol - ***1/4+
Eita/Fox - ***1/4+
TT/Gargano - ***1/4

EVOLVE 22

Konley/C Taylor - **1/4
Yim/Ivelisse - *1/2
Nese/T Taylor - **1/2
Bravado's & Everett/DBD & Strickland - ***1/4+
Dorado/Fox - ***1/2+
Ryze/Cage - N/R
Cage/Davis - ***+
Del Sol/Gargano - ****
Bucks/Eita & TT - ***1/2+
 
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Chikara The Ghost of You Clings

(5/4/2013)


1. Chuck Taylor vs. Shenron

Well, here we go, this is my new guilty pleasure of the year, Chucky T versus a rookie. The match is buckets of fun, they fired up the crowd immensely, and Chuck’s goofy stuff was top notch, he’s just so natural. And this Shenron dude? Let me tell you, if you think AR Fox is a stupid reckless fuck, then oh boy, you’re so wrong, warm the cookies and stop the presses, because this Shenron guy is suicidal.

***1/2


2. Pieces of Hate (Jigsaw & The Shard) vs. The Colony (Fire Ant & AssailANT)

In my opinion, matches like this one is where Chikara is at it’s best and delivers greatness, when they keep comedy to minimum, and let the ringwork speak. This match was awesome, great, with basic tag team storytelling and structure, but with Chikara’s fingerprints to spice shit up. Everyone was great, but AssailANT was the MVP, such a classy face-in-peril he was, I got some Generico vibe from that.

****


3. Gran Akuma vs. Sugar Dunkerton

This was designed to move the Sugar/F.I.S.T. story to the next level, and it worked, but in essence, it was still a basic pro-wrestling play where Sugar’s goofy comedy approach meets Akuma’s serious shit.

**3/4


4. Amasis vs. Kobald

After the terrible performance from the night before, Amasis was much better here, he actually sold things. Also, I dig Kobald more and more.

**1/4


5. The Spectral Envoy (UltraMantis Black, Hallowicked & Frightmare) & Green Ant vs. DeviANT & The Colony Xtreme Force (Arctic Rescue Ant, Missile Assault Ant & Orbit Adventure Ant)

Meh, typical multi-man exhibition sprint, nothing more, there were sloppy moments, but I liked the ending.

**


6. Tim Donst vs. Saturyne

Hell yeah, two of my Chikara favorites together in the ring. Donst’s “sick of everything” character is excellent, and Saturyne is becoming the female version of El Generico, she’s such a fun, loveable underdog, and a lock for at least a solid match. Great work from both.

***1/4


7. Chikara Grand Championship: Eddie Kingston © vs. Mark Angelosetti

Yep… Eddie Kingston does it again. Or, should I say “Mr. Touchdown does it again”? Because, both statements are true, and both guys are amazing at what they do, very consistent in big matches. Eddie decides to take the kid to school, and Mark is a jerk, but he’s a tough and smart jerk. The legwork sessions were predictable but good, it gave us a dose of unpredictability, convinced us that Mark might actually win. Awesome match with great selling, climax and finish.

***3/4


8. Chikara Campeonatos de Parejas: 3.0 (Scott Parker & Shane Matthews) © vs. The Batiri (Obariyon & Kodama)

JEEE-ZUS! Another painfully boring 3.0 match, they are cure for insomnia, I swear. This one even had a generic injury angle to put some sympathy on them, but I still didn’t care. They are boring characters, dull wrestlers and sloppy athletes.

*1/4


I swear, I’m gonna pretend the main event never existed so I can call this an amazing show. Go check the matches under 1, 2 and 7, ASAP.
 
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