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05-17-2011, 09:18 AM
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DDT did a job on me
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
If you don't get Eddie Edwards I'd recommend watching his HDNet stuff (from day one of the show). If you still don't like him after that then you'll never like him. For whatever reason, he made more of that opportunity than anyone on the roster.
Might be a good idea to learn to love him because him and Davey are, probably, going to be feuding over the belt for the next 6 months.
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05-17-2011, 11:09 AM
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Wheel Man for SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
I watched every episode of the HDNet show up until about February of this year, I've seen every ROH show since mid-08, and I've seen some of his recent Japan stuff too. He has gotten a much better sense of timing in just the last few months, and his execution of moves is a lot more crisp, but he still can't pace a match and I haven't seen a very good match from him where he wasn't in there with someone who is good at pacing. His match with Sonjay at Final Battle was garbage, the Daivari match at GBH sucked (though that could have just been them not getting any time), his match with Black at Champions Challenge was pretty bad, and I didn't like either of the Daniels matches as much as everyone else did. About to watch the King match from World's Greatest, not sure if I'll like that one any better.
Having seen brief highlights of the Hero match I think it might be good, but apart from that I can't think of any Edwards singles matches I've seen that I've particularly liked, and I know it's not a case of not having watched his good stuff.
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05-17-2011, 12:23 PM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
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I really liked the 6 man tags they used to do on HDNet, but the ones this year havn't been anything special apart from the Worlds Greatest one which I thought was awesome.
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Some of the 6 mans they had on HDNet with Wolves & Steenerico involved during the Pearce era were fucking awesome.
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I mean, don't get me wrong, I can fully understand why he'd book them. It's a good way to give a B-market a "big" match without giving away your money one-on-one matches but they really don't translate well to DVD and, as a long-time fan, I don't need to be seeing those kind of "here's a quick sampler of every main eventer's stuff" matches.
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They dont really make sense to book atm though. Their roster is really limited currently and sticking 6 or 8 men in one match which you could get like 3 matches out of is really stupid. All the same it's not the fact that they're doing these type of matches that I really dont like it's the way that the matches are laid out where they just have 6 men wrestle for 30 minutes with no purpose.
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05-17-2011, 12:46 PM
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Getting ignored by SCOTT STEINER
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
Sigh. The final 6 man tag from HDNet is still my MOTY. I should probably watch it again sometime since there's been so much awesome stuff since.
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05-17-2011, 02:12 PM
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
SHIMMER Volume 31
Kellie Skater vs. Jessica James *½
Jessie McKay vs. Sassy Stephie *¾
Rayna Von Tash vs. Malia Hosuka *
Mercedes Martinez vs. Tomoka Nakagawa **¼
Allison Danger vs. Melanie Cruiser ½*
No Disqualification Match
Rachel Summerlyn vs. Daffney *
Hiroyo Matsumoto vs. LuFisto **¾
Cheerleader Melissa vs. Misaki Ohata ***
SHIMMER Tag Team Title Match
The Canadian Ninjas vs. Nikki Roxx and Ariel **¼
Ayako Hamada vs. Daizee Haze ***
Ayumi Kurihara vs. Sara Del Rey ***¾
SHIMMER Title Match
MsChif vs. Madison Eagles **¾
My first SHIMMER show and it certainly isn't going to be my last
Enjoyed the vast majority of the show with it really picking up with the last few matches
Del Rey/Kurihara was freaking great and easily MOTN. Main event was somewhat disappointing but still pretty enjoyable
Already looking forward to ordering more SHIMMER
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05-17-2011, 09:16 PM
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Asking SCOTT STEINER for Wrestling Advice
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
ROH: Defy or Deny
Mark Briscoe vs. Kyle O'Reilly: ***½
Real good opener. Loving the dueling suplex sequence, this match like the one o’reily had with Jay, was fast paced and just great action throughout, not a dull moment.
Steve Corino and Grizzly Redwood vs. The All Night Express: **
Corino’s way to over the top with the way he trys to stop himself from his usual heel tactics. ANX still looks good but Grizzly shouldn’t be getting offense in against them, never mind being the hot tag in a tag match. The guy has no credibility and I just can’t take him seriously and in turn it makes ANX look bad. Good double teams from ANX but nothing more really to this match, unless you really like Grizzly.
Adam Cole vs. Tommaso Ciampa: ***
Good match, could have been a little quicker and crisper, but overall good stuff from both guys.
Chris Hero vs. TJ Perkins: ****
Damn, awesome. Kicks from Perkins, Elbows from Hero, hell of a match, with an excellent finish. You want back and forth, hard hitting action mixed with some good mat wrestling as well, check this match out.
The Bravado Brothers vs. Matt Taven and Guy Alexander: ½*
Moving on, still don’t see anything in the Bravados.
Eddie Edwards vs. Michael Elgin: ****
Hard Hitting right out the gate and didn’t stop from there. These guys have some excellent chemistry and this match really stood to me as Elgin’s breakout match. After this match, it just makes me think how great a rematch for the title could be.
World TV Title Match: Christopher Daniels vs. Mike Bennett: ***
Good enough match. Bennett still isn’t impressive enough. I don’t think we’ll ever see Bennett in a four star match, this was good enough though mainly due to Daniels.
Claudio Castagnoli vs. Davey Richards: ****¼
Another really great match, that showcased both guys, the intensity and skills these two have is great. Just like Hero/Perkins this match didn’t have a slow moment. Sick last few minutes and Claudio’s fall away off the 2nd rope was nasty.
Roderick Strong vs. El Generico vs. Homicide vs. Jay Briscoe: ***¾
Really picked up after Homicide got eliminated, and got even better when it got down to Generico/Strong, overall real good 4 way elimination match. For a main event that wasn’t a title match these guys did a hell of a job getting the crowd into it, unfortunate HOT interference again though.
Overall: 8.0/10
A really strong show; you’ve got a really good opener with mark/oreily, and four matches at ***¾ or better, it’s a little on the long side with some unnecessary promos, but if you just watch the 5 really good – excellent matches you’re in for a hell of a show.
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05-17-2011, 09:54 PM
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CM GOAT aka DR. PHIL
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
Awesome to see Defy or Deny delivered. I'm dying for my order to hurry up and get here...
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05-17-2011, 10:02 PM
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That is why it's called organized crime.
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
I'd agree with everything kwjr86 said except for the main event. It did get better once Homicide was eliminated, but the Homicide/Strong alliance just ended out of nowhere and for the ending they went with they probably could have shaved a few minuets off. Shocked how good Elgin/Edwards was, Ciampa looked much better then he did in Atlanta and easily Bennett's best match in ROH (though that's not saying much and he still looked lost in certain parts).
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05-18-2011, 12:09 AM
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Jeff Harvey
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
Glory by Honor IX 09/11/10 (7.5/10.0)
Jay Briscoe vs. Kenny King **1/2
Mark Briscoe vs. Rhett Titus **3/4
Ballz Mahoney & Grizzly Redwood vs. Erick Stevens & Necro Butcher **
El Generico & Colt Cabana vs. Kevin Steen & Steve Corino ***3/4
Eddie Edwards vs. Shawn Davari **1/2
Austin Aries vs. Christopher Daniels ***1/2
The Kings of Wrestling vs. The Worlds Greatest Tag Team ***3/4
Tyler Black vs. Roderick Strong **3/4
Only 3 matches really delivered worthwhile matches, but I was kind of expecting more from each. Probably the weakest iPPV from 2010. The main event was horrible and Terry Funk looked lost as a referee, and was actually getting in the way sometimes.
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02/20 (WWE) Smackdown Elimination Chamber ****
01/30 (WWE) Edge vs. Dolph Ziggler ***3/4
01/04/11 (NJPW) Satoshi Kojima vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi ***3/4
02/20 (WWE) RAW Elimination Chamber ***3/4
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05-18-2011, 12:37 AM
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That is why it's called organized crime.
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Re: Official Indy DVD Thread
NWA Force 1 - The Relaunch 2.0
Winner Gets Spot in Six Pack Challenge
Devon Moore vs. Ty Hagen - **
Alex Colon vs. Joe Ettel - **
Niles Young vs. Hybrid - *
Rich Swann vs. Sugar Dunkerton - **1/2
F1 Heritage Title
Frightmare vs. Ryan Eagles vs. Ryan Slater vs. Lince Dorado - ***
Last Man Standing
Greg Excellent vs. JT Roberts - **
The Monster Squad vs. DJ Hyde - *
F1 Tag Team Titles
Osirian Portal vs. The Black Gate Asylum (Alex Payne & Pelle Primeau) - ***1/4
F1 Title - Six Pack Challenge
Joe Gacy vs. Sabian vs. RV1 vs. Sami Callihan vs. Johhny Calzone vs. Devon Moore - **1/4
Mostly boring show as the only good matches were the Heritage title 4-way and the surprising tag title match. Some of the people they have in the main event are absolutely horrendous (Calzone, Sabian) while some are just dull (Gacy, RV1).
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