[TelkEvolon]

God damn, I just caught up on all the ROH stuff.

[KingCrash]

AIW - Youth Gone Wild


TJ Dynamite vs. Kaden Hassad - DUD

Blackballed (“Kano” Josh Emanuel & Lamont Williams) vs. Mr. RBI & The Kombat Kid - **

Chest Flexor vs. Reggae Dones - *

Da Latin Crime Syndicate vs. The Pleather Platoon - **

No Disqualification
Justin Lee vs. John Thorne - N/R

The Duke vs. Bobby Beverly - **

Tommy Mercer vs. Shawn Schultz - **

Absolute Opportunity
Marti Belle vs. Tina San Antonio - DUD

Eric Ryan vs. Greg Iron - **1/2

Absolute Title
Johnny Gargano vs. Tim Donst - ***



AIW - The World Is Not Enough


Dalton Castle vs. Cloudy - **

Marion Fontaine vs. Bobby Beverly - *

Chest Flexor vs. TJ Dynamite - DUD

Blackballed & Da Latin Crime Syndicate vs. Lights Out & Alpha Beta Duke - **

No Disqualification
Hobo Joe vs. Greg Iron - **1/4

Facade vs. Sterling James Keenan - ***

AIW Tag Team Titles
Aeroform (Flip Kendrick & Louis Lyndon) vs. Colin & Jimmy Olsen - ***

AIW Women’s Title
Angeldust vs. Mickie Knuckles - **1/4

Intense Division Title
Shiima Xion vs. Samuray Del Sol - ***1/2

Absolute Title
Johnny Gargano vs. Trik Davis - **1/2


AIW is one of the second-tier indy feds where they have some talent and enjoyable matches, but where the undercard sometimes is unbearable to watch. The live commentary over the house mic that drowns out the crowd doesn’t help matters.

[Shock]

[Les Kellett Lariat]

Watched PWG's WrestleReunion show.

Much better show than ROH's, although it's probably not fair to compare them because this was obviously a much bigger deal to PWG than ROH. One thing, that I picked up on, was that I felt as though ROH tried to put on a PWG-style show and fucked it up and PWG put on some hard-hitting, physical, creative matches than were more reminiscent of vintage ROH.

Claudio-Generico, Hero-Steen and Davey-Ki were all must-see. The legends added something unique to the show too, which makes it even more worth buying. PWG put on the best show for all, whereas ROH tried to adapt to the California audience and tied themselves in a bit of a knot.

One thing that I've always hated about PWG are these multi-man tag matches. The opening one was insignificant enough not to offend me but the 4-way match was garbage. Brian Cage and RockNES came out of it with some respect but, overall, almost nothing got sold or had any consequences to it.

Two examples:

- Early in the match, the Young Bucks hit a signature combination on the Cutlers. The Cutlers showed no after effects and the Young Bucks jumped up and posed, giving away the fact that there was little or no actual physical contact there. The Cutlers didn't sell a move in the entire match IIRC and mostly just smiled obliviously, as if they were goofing around on a trampoline with their friends. They look like traps too.

- The finish involved Goodtime Death Valley Driving Yuma onto their opponents, from the top rope. Great spot but RockNES popped up and celebrated instantly, showing no ill-effects. Basically, no-one can ever use a Death Valley Driver again now.

The Young Bucks have huge potential but are still way off the finished article and one of the problems that PWG has, is that the YBs are a huge influence on every other PWG tag team. It's like the blind leading the blind. The division desperately needs a veteran tag team to glue it all together IMO.

Closing thought - What's up with Jake Manning's kiddy fiddler gimmick?

[smitlick]

Yay someone that agrees with me. The Cutlers/Bucks etc can't sell for shit. Surprised Gabe doesn't book the shitty So-Cal guys for DGUSA.

[Bubz]

Yeah the Bucks are good but seriously never ever sell anything and use way too many superkicks, I thought the Guns went through a stage of overdoing superkicks but my god the Bucks are on a completely different level.

[MB,]

Just bought Honor takes Center Stage both nights,Glory by Honor 8 , Roh on HDnet vol 1-7

Got Gut Check, Epic Encounter2, Back to Basics,Buffalo Stampede, and Best of American super juniors on ebay!

Any thoughts. I was very skeptical about the HDnets

[Jack Evans 187]

Originally Posted by MB,

Just bought Honor takes Center Stage both nights, Roh on HDnet vol 4,5,6,7.

Got Gut Check, Epic Encounter2, Back to Basics, Best of American super juniors on ebay!

Any thoughts. I was very skeptical about the HDnets

Both Center Stage shows are great, you'll enjoy those. The HDNet sets are always worth it because there's so much quality all around. Vol. 1 is fantastic, tables match andthe 4 way are both awesome. Vol. 7 has a great anything goes tag match and vol. 6 has the finals of the TV Title tournament which is a top 10 HDnet match. For Gut Check and Epic Encounter 2, be prepared for some looong matches. Best of American Super Juniors Tournament, be prepared for a loooong show. But it opens great and ends even better if you ask me.

[jawbreaker]

BOASJ is quite possibly the funniest show ROH ever did.

[Jack Evans 187]

Elaborate.