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#3,583 ·
GIMME SABRE VERSUS TOZAWA
 
#3,590 ·
:lmao those reviews are awesome.

Looking into that highspots deal. The $20 one has Vader in Japan which I really need to see but the $15 HAS SOME PWG shows and I haven't seen enough of them. Maybe I'll do both. :side:

My friend was at Steen Wolf and he fucking loved it.
 
#3,598 ·
If you're referring to me that exchange did look pretty shite, still at least the Reseda crowd gave it a good reaction.

Mack's intense face did have me rolling originally, I pray there's more to the match than just the constant strike exchanges, they've got a real chance there to do some sequences where Mack outshines Richards and forces him to go to his strikes, hopefully it'll come off like the Hero BOLA match I've seen adored rather than Eddie/Roddy from the same show.

Steen/Generico looked bonkers tbh, I find it hard to rate ladder matches (though singles matches are usually easier) but given the history between them it'll at least make some of the more painful looking spots make sense in the context of the feud, appreciated the brawling outside of the ring as well. The sunset flip powerbomb looked horrifying when it freezes and you see Steen's neck and head hovering closely near the edge of that ladder, jesus.
 
#3,600 ·
Segunda, I don't think there's anything wrong with strike exchanges if they are natural and fit into the flow of the match organically. From that brief highlight, it looked like they did a very good job of it for the most part. It was way more "going all out to win the match" and less "fighting spirit intensity!!!"
 
#3,602 ·
That's a fair point, and you're right it would be better to watch the match first and see how they get to that spot to better analyse it, still 'superkick' exchanges are pretty much the worst sort of exchange to me, and seeing them hit in that order really didn't give me much hope that the actual spot will be any better when watching the full match, especially since I'm willing to bet at least one if not two superkicks will be hit either before or considerably after that spot and sold much better...I dunno I just think there's better ways of doing a strike exchange than resorting to dual superkicks: its been a well documented signature move in numerous wrestlers's arsenals throughout wrestling and I can never get past that when watching someone do that sort of exchange.

Having seen a glimpse of the RockNES Monsters though, they do look to be potential good babyfaces with how small they are, I promise I'll get around to watching that match of theirs you pimped from some PWG show sometime ago, think Steen/Tozawa were the opposition.
 
#3,604 ·
Yep. All Star Weekend 8 Night 2. Seabs should have it up in the Best of PWG 2011 thread.

Also I think the order of the superkicks was fine, nobody hit one right after getting hit (Nick tried but O'Reilly caught it, which makes a lot of sense I think) and nobody stood around waiting to get hit either. They all looked like they came out of nowhere.

And I love superkicks when they're sold well.
 
#3,606 · (Edited)
I enjoy it, it doesn't take itself seriously and I find myself enjoying a PWG spotfest better than I would a TNA spotfest for example, largely because of the Reseda crowd. Plus they do have a talented roster and can put on some excellent matches that appeal to my taste, would probably be my favourite promotion atm with IWRG having a less than stellar year and WWE missing some of their best workers atm or not using them.

Also I wouldn't consider myself a 'wise master of wrestling' lol, at the end of the day I have my tastes like everyone else and argue what I like/don't like :)
 
#3,608 ·
ROH - Proving Ground

1. Pelle Primeau & Eddie Edwards vs Kenny King & Jason Blade
**1/2

2. Alexa Thatcher vs Daizee Haze
**

3. Ruckus vs Claudio Castagnoli
**1/2

4. Daniel Puder vs Mike Bennett
DUD

5. Bryan Danielson vs Brent Albright
***3/4

6. Relaxed Rules
The Necro Butcher vs Kevin Steen
***1/2

7. Sal Rinauro vs Delirious
*3/4

8. El Generico vs Roderick Strong
***1/4

9. FIP Heavyweight Title
Erick Stevens vs Austin Aries
****1/4

10. ROH Tag Team Title - Ultimate Endurance
The Age of the Fall vs The Hangmen 3 vs The Vulture Squad vs The Briscoe Brothers
****​
 
#3,610 ·
PWG - DDT4 2008 Night 1

1. Hook Bomberry vs Nemesis
*3/4

2. 2.0 vs Los Luchas
***

3. TJ Perkins vs Candice LeRae
**3/4

4. Jack Evans & Roderick Strong vs Scorpio Sky & Ronin
**

5. The Dynasty vs El Blazer & KAGETORA
***

6. Austin Aries vs Jay Briscoe
***1/2

7. PWG World Tag Titles
Steenerico vs Super Dragon & Davey Richards
***1/4​
 
#3,611 ·
Can you up Aries vs. Jay plz?
 
#3,612 ·
Yep will do



PWG - DDT4 2008 Night 2

- lol at the fan losing his licence

1. Los Luchas vs Roderick Strong & Jack Evans
**1/2

2. Austin Aries vs Davey Richards
***1/4

3. PWG World Tag Team Title Match
Steenerico vs El Blazer & KAGETORA
***1/2

4. Necro Butcher Rules
Necro Butcher vs Jay Briscoe
**

5. Hook Bomberry, TJ Perkins & The Dynasty vs Candice LeRae, Scorpio Sky & 2.0
***1/4

6. PWG World Tag Team Title Match
Steenerico vs Jack Evans & Roderick Strong
****1/4​
 
#3,614 · (Edited)
PWG The Perils of Rock n' Roll Decadence

"Pretty" Peter Avalon vs Brian Cage-Taylor
Avalon seems like a promising wrestler, the other guy, not so much.
**½

Willie Mack vs Ryan Taylor
This was nearly 20 minutes long and it dragged big time. Much like his 'brother' Ryan Taylor is pretty terrible.
**

RockNES Monsters vs Super Smash Brothers
A fun spotfest that would of got a higher rating if the spots were executed better. Quite a botchy match.
***¼

Eddie Edwards vs TJ Perkins
Like any other Edwards match, this match wasn't very interesting. Edward really struggles to make me care. The crowd seemed to love this though.
**¾

El Generico vs "Azcar" Rocky Romero
The Genetic Luchador is in the match of the night, once again. Brilliant match.
****¼

PWG World Tag Team Championships
The Young Bucks (c) vs The Dynasty
A dull watch until the Dynasty gets the hot tag, but it has some awesome action in the last 10 minutes.
****

PWG World Championship
Kevin Steen (c) vs Davey Richards
Including all the post match stuff and crowd interaction, this was a really fun viewing, aside from some of Davey's illogical moves.
****

Overall:
Minus the last three matches, this show is pretty forgettable. However, even though nothing will blow you away from the rest of the card, it's still a fun viewing none-the-less.​
 
#3,627 ·
PWG The Perils of Rock n' Roll Decadence

"Pretty" Peter Avalon vs Brian Cage-Taylor
Avalon seems like a promising wrestler, the other guy, not so much.
**¾
Avalon is pretty awful when he's not doing comedy and he looked pretty bad in this. Fucking Bonham turns up on commentary for TWO matches too :mad:

Willie Mack vs Ryan Taylor
This was nearly 20 minutes long and it dragged big time. Much like his 'brother' Ryan Taylor is pretty terrible.
**½
Yup.

RockNES Monsters vs Super Smash Brothers
A fun spotfest that would of got a higher rating if the spots were executed better. Quite a botchy match.
***¼
Didn't think it was botchy at all. MOTN. People will love this, especially if they're a fan of either team. There's something about SSB that I just dislike so I'm guessing people will like it even more than me. Steen was putting them over fucking HUGE on commentary.

Eddie Edwards vs TJ Perkins
Like any other Edwards match, this match wasn't very interesting. Edward really struggles to make me care. The crowd seemed to love this though.
**¾
Good ol' DR has the best commentary line ever during this when Excalibur legit bursts out laughing.

El Generico vs "Azcar" Rocky Romero
The Genetic Luchador is in the match of the night, once again. Brilliant match.
****¼
Meh. Solid match, didn't care much for it though. TOP ROPE BRAINBUSTER sighting though!

PWG World Tag Team Championships
The Young Bucks (c) vs The Dynasty
A dull watch until the Dynasty gets the hot tag, but it has some awesome action in the last 10 minutes.
****
Other way around. Got messy and spotty too early with no real dynamic but it was fun.

PWG World Championship
Kevin Steen (c) vs Davey Richards
Including all the post match stuff and crowd interaction, this was a really fun viewing, aside from some of Davey's illogical moves.
****
Crowd really put me off actually and that's saying something for a Reseda crowd. Seemed like a few guys were bored and did the horrible "get myself over at an Indy show" shtick. Too long and neither guy seemed on.

Overall:
Minus the last three matches, this show is pretty forgettable. However, even though nothing will blow you away from the rest of the card, it's still a fun viewing none-the-less.
Yeah at the end of the day it's a PWG show so it's a better watch than most Indy shows but it was one of the weaker shows they've done this year which is understandable considering it was a weaker card.

Ryan Taylor is damn good.
To back Cactus' point up he was fucking horrific in the Mack match and that's kinda how he has been for a while. Throws a lot of meh strikes and can't really work. Brian Cage-Taylor has some cool power moves but he's not all that interesting and can't work that well either.

PWG The Perils Of Rock N Roll Decedance

Brian Cage-Taylor vs Peter Avalon
**

Willie Mack vs Ryan Taylor
**1/4

RockNES Monsters vs Super Smash Brothers
***3/4

Eddie Edwards vs TJ Perkins
***1/2

El Generico vs Rocky Romero
***

Young Bucks vs The Dynasty - PWG World Tag Team Championships
***1/4

Kevin Steen vs Davey Richards - PWG World Championship
***1/4
 
#3,618 ·
Brian Cage-Taylor didn't seem too bad. He just didn't do anything memorable. Ryan Taylor on the other hand was pretty bad. His execution was horrible and his strikes usually missed Willie Mack or hit weakly and the crowd booed him quite a bit.

Don't take my opinion that seriously though. It's the first match I've seen of either guy so I can't really speak until I see their other matches.
 
#3,630 ·
The crowd wanting Lynn to lose is one of the coolest parts of that match, but imagine if Nigel was in there as champ instead. I'd imagine the match would be amazing, but they'd chant the same thing!

"Someone tap" "Someone tap" -- I love that kind of drama that only smart fans create. 2009 and the HDNet show in general are way underrated as far as match quality goes.
 
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