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Old 11-21-2010, 09:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Indy feds in 2010, how was this year?

Hoping to strike up a little convo about how everyone felt about different Indy feds this past year.


ROH - This year I felt they turned the corner and started to head back towards where they were in 2005-07 in terms of overall quality. Despite the problems with Go Fight Live, I thought the iPPVs where a great addition, especially since I can't ever seem to keep my eyes away from spoilers. I really have loved what the Briscoes are doing this year and Claudio/Hero are probably the 2 best wrestlers in North America right now not signed to WWE. Davey has started to come into his own this year as a singles wrestler and is showing real promise despite his over hype in years previous. I always found Tyler black boring as hell unless he was in the ring with Dragon or Nigel but even he had me interested through the first half of the year and of course Generico/Steen has been the best thing in wrestling anywhere.

The 2nd half of the year has been a little underwhelming for me so far but they did just got through another transition, which is too bad cause I really thought Pearce was starting to figure it out. Roddy as champion is meh to me, I mean he deserves it but I hated the match against Tyler where he won the title and if Truth is gonna be his mouthpiece, then he (Roddy) should shut up, completely. The whole House Of Truth falling apart hasn't helped things either.

Kenny Omega would have been huge this year in ROH, too bad he's pretty much Japan based now, well to bad for ROH I suppose.

One thing that is troublesome though is that it's becoming increasingly obvious that Syd Eck is a bit of a problem behind the scenes. One really has to wonder what that missed opportunity with HDNet Pearce spoke about Syd blocking...

FInal Battle should be amazing.

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Dragon Gate USA - Still struggling to find their way in their 2nd year, mostly not really into DGUSA despite the fact that I really like Dragon Gate and a chunk of the American Indy guys they book. I did think that Enter The Dragon 2010 was fantastic (only saw the PPV not the DVD with SHingo/Danielson) and Bushido was pretty good as well, although I felt it fell victim to the Gabe overhype machine, surprise.

Lots to work with in 2011, the whole supercard concept is not working though, it's the same kinda thing that burned people out in ROH during 2008. There seems to be an improvement in that area though with the building of factions that include american workers and feuds that are unique to DGUSA starting to form. Plus gaining the greatest man that ever lived to your roster dosn't hurt. They really need to get that belt of BxB Hulk though, bleh.

Looking forward to what goes down in 2011

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EVOLVE - Some good matches this year, struggling moreso than DGUSA to find itself, rules changes and fed concept changes have hurt momentum but there are a lot of bright spots like Chucky T, any match with Danielson/Hero/Claudio, Bobby Fish and that promo from Sawa about wrestling Danielson.

Is Gabe spreading himself too thin?

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PWG - I've only been watching PWG for 2-3 years but this year seems off the charts good for them. They produced very high quality shows top to bottom, really good pacing to matches, matches doing their proper job for the proper spot on the card. No wrestlers ever seem to phone it in for PWG this year either and they have their share of MOTY candidates off some amazing performances, crowd reactions and commentary from the great Excalibur.

Plus PWG has the knack for pulling the trigger on a wrestler at the right time. They'd be my Favorite Indy fed this year, if it wasn't for......(Get that Red Rep ready CM Skittle)

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CHIKARA - What can I say? I'm gonna get tons of heat and flamed for this but Chikara is killing other Indy feds this year (Other than PWG) They have the most consistant storylines in all of wrestling and they NEVER have continuity problems with their Storylines, which is almost unheard of wrestling. In fact, the current storyline of BDK has SO many tie-ins all the way back to the break up of the KOW in Chikara and the secret of the CHikara special getting out/Hero storyline. It's epic and obviously Quack is very attentive to detail. While they havn't produced any sureshot MOTY candidates they have put on consistantly great cards that flow well from top to bottom and Chikarasaraus Rex might be my favorite top to Bottom show this year. King Of Trios wasn't as good as 08 or 09 in my opinion, Daniels should have not showed up IMO his matches against Eddie and Hallowwicked where big let downs but the BDK advancement was good and Sekimoto killing everybody made the weekend for me. The Brooklyn show was also really really great and I loved the look of it in the Warsaw, not to mention TOYOTA!!! Oh and anytime Danielson shows up in a Chikara ring, it's great.

Just watched Dark Cibernetico and it was so fun, can't wait to check out the last 3 shows of the year.


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IWA-MS - Ian Rotten gets job at Taco Bell and no real shows to speak of = best year ever for them!

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Old 11-21-2010, 09:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Indy feds in 2010, how was this year?

I think ROH has been very good this year, i think all the hate towards the company recently has been a bit harsh. Sure not every match on the cards are great but they dont need to make every match great, even though i wouldn't mind it lol. That brings me on to...

PWG!!! What can you say? brilliant this year, they constantly produce great top to bottom cards, with at least 1 or 2 matches each show in the **** range.

I really havnt been able to get in to DGUSA or EVOLVE though so i cant say much there. I am not a CHIKARA fan but i can see why some people love it, its just not my thing.

For my money PWG has been the best company in the world this year that i have seen along with NJPW and ROH coming 2nd.
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Default Re: Indy feds in 2010, how was this year?

I've been loving the way indy wrestling has been going this year. Everyone is still in business so the business side can't be that bad. But there are so many companies out there that are putting on good shows. Just this year I've been, and have enjoyed shows by ROH, DGUSA, Chikara, CZW, Evolve, and JAPW.
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Hero, Claudio and Davey have been incredible this year, across more than one promotion and more than one continent. They're the three best wrestlers in the world, right now, for my money.

Steen vs. Generico and the BDK stuff will be remembered as two of the most iconic angles in indy history.

SHIMMER deserves a mention here. New champ in Madison Eagles. Great use of the JOSHI girls (Kuriyama, Ohata). Melissa parting company with TNA and having a point to prove. Jamilia Craft starting to show promise after coming out of the academy. Hamada can't have a bad match. The promotion is really well-booked. DVD covers are miles better than ROH's. Little things like that have been falling into place in 2010. A really underrated company.

Bryan Danielson being the story of the year, in WWE, and Nigel winning TNA's fan polls have shown the widening impact of indy wrestling (along with a couple of other new indy stars now on TV with 'The Big Two').

All-in-all, if Final Battle can get a decent buyrate it'll top off a good year for indy wrestling and set up 2011 nicely. Hopefully everyone, no matter what their indy orientation, is ready to support it.
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Bryan Danielson being the story of the year, in WWE, and Nigel winning TNA's fan polls have shown the widening impact of indy wrestling (along with a couple of other new indy stars now on TV with 'The Big Two').

All-in-all, if Final Battle can get a decent buyrate it'll top off a good year for indy wrestling and set up 2011 nicely. Hopefully everyone, no matter what their indy orientation, is ready to support it.
Well said and I totally agree with what you saying about Final Battle.
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Default Re: Indy feds in 2010, how was this year?

I only began following indy feds in 2010 so I can't really compare them to anything else, but I can say that I did enjoy them more than enjoyed mainstream wrestling at times.
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Default Re: Indy feds in 2010, how was this year?

not a good year im afriad

lets get he positives out of the way;
100% Lucha, way to bring wrestling to South America hard
WXW(Germany) has really upped its game going overseas
Chikara, THE BDK STORYLINE IS AWESOME!!!!!
Jon Moxley is moving on up
tag team wrestling in Britain has picked up thanks to Fight CLub, Sherrifs Of Nottingham, The Models and Project Ego
Dragongate UK has been quite a highlight especially with Haskins and Lion Kid all getting shots,
Rockstar Spud is awesome,
Moss is a beast,
FWA has been gooooooooood


but

Dragongate USA, CZW and PWG have stopped moving up

Former WWE superstar shows are the ones that make more money than most even though NWE WSW and AWR are gone and The Hulkamania tour has probably killed wrestling down under for good

EVOLVE is a great concept but half of its roster is random guys not even the indy hardcores care about

The British Indy scene is worst its been in years;
ASW never f*****g changes
IPWUK after the last two amazing years have burned out despite the amazing tag title run by the LDRS and the rebirth of Dave MorAleSTIFF
1PW once again sank into the abyss
only DGUK ASW PBW LDN-W have any kind of security

after their slightly disappointing last oppv its clear to me that ROH is washed up, what they have isn't what they are about when it comes down to it, it wont cut the mustard in any way or form,not even Double A, they built themselves around the next gen of indy wrestling and where did that generation go?



all over the world, revenue, ticket sales, exposure, woah times are hard and its almost impossible for a new fed to come up

there isn't very little that fresh innovative or anything really to support alternative wrestling, its expensive to do so nowadays

Lucha and Puro promotions are where its at nowadays im afraid

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not a good year im afriad

100% Lucha, way to bring wrestling to South America hard
are you from Argentina?? I can't see how you can make that statement unless you live there and have seen their supposed success. At least in Chile they are treated like a joke and from what I've seen from them, it mostly sucks balls .
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after their slightly disappointing last oppv its clear to me that ROH is washed up, what they have isn't what they are about when it comes down to it, it wont cut the mustard in any way or form,not even Double A, they built themselves around the next gen of indy wrestling and where did that generation go?
I can't really read that, apart from the bit about Arn Anderson . I guess you're making that claim that ROH has 'changed for the worse' or 'sold out'. Anyway, I disagree.

You're failing to recognise that evolution is necessary to remain fresh (just ask Madonna) and that ROH is no longer simply a niche or regional promotion but, rather, the international standard bearer for U.S. indy wrestling. It's changed with it's, now much more diverse, audience. That's just common sense promotion/booking.

I agree that GBHIX was a bit underwhelming, by ROH's own standards, but it wasn't cause for this "sky is falling" reaction. There have been some classic matches/shows/feuds this year IMHO.

What do you mean about the "next generation"? We are onto about the fourth or five generation of ROH stars now. That founding principle (building young talent) of ROH is still clearly in place. The average age of the roster is something like 28/29 (even with Jerry Lynn and Christopher Daniels on board and Tyler Black leaving). Most of the top guys, going into Final Battle, are 26/27. That's a scary thought.

The previous generations have gone on to set the tone for TNA's brief flirtation with relevance and to begin to breathe life into WWE's tired product. That's where they are. That was always the point of ROH. I can't see how that's a bad thing, for anyone concerned.

You're expecting ROH, DGUSA, CZW etc. to "move up". Unfortunately, we don't live in an infinite world and there's no space for them to "move up" into. They just need to keep being the best examples of their own product currently possible. All of these products are more widely-recognised, in 2010, than ever before and that's a fact.

There's no sense in trying to take money out of Vince McMahon's pocket. That would involve running a completely different kind of business. Which would involve 'changing for the worse' and 'selling out', two things you'd, I'm guessing, be unhappy with.

At the end of the day, indy wrestling is doing great, especially in this difficult financial climate, and all concerned deserve praise for that. There's more than enough refreshing stuff out there IMO.

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