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#1 ·
Does anyone here actively watch Lucha?

During my search for great hidden gems in wrestling, I've been digging deep into lucha and have come back with some of the best matches that I've ever seen. I'm eagerly awaiting for the Best of the 90s Lucha Set from IVP Videos.

Since my interest in the U.S. indy promotions and puro this year has really gone down because of lack of quality and my near refusal to watch anything from TNA and some WWE, lucha has been my last refuge.

Thankfully there are blogs out there that exclusively cover lucha on a regular basis and put up links for matches and shows. This one is probably the best one that I've found:
http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/
 
#3,133 · (Edited)
Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi was so wild. Lucha MOTY I'm giving it the full *****

These two really held nothing back. Fuck the storytelling and selling this was war. A german suplex on the floor and a bump off the apron to the floor right after?? This was display of complete madness and ended up turning into a war of attrition with various near falls that made me think "its over".

All lucha fans pretty much whole heartedly agree that the referees are terrible and more likely than not fuck up the finish or bring the match down.

We should probably wait for a version that doesn't skip of the match to come out. HERE http://www.clarosports.com/lucha-li...ano-a-mano-de-dragon-lee-y-kamaitachi-590322/

And AAA has presented Flamita as the new Octagon jr. at a show in Toluca MX.




On that taping, Pentagon jr advaced out of his group to the Rey de Reyes final vs Blue Demon jr, Villano IV, and La Parka
 
#3,286 ·
I wanted to start video editing and since AAA upload their shows on youtube I thought it was the perfect plan. So here's my video of the current Perros del Mal. Pretty happy with the result actually ! Any opinion is welcome :angel



Anyway it was fun to do.
 
#3,289 ·
#1,397 · (Edited)
The Casas/Panther Hair vs Hair match in March 2012 is mandatory viewing imo. It's unlike a traditional Hair vs Hair match which usually revolves around a bloody brawl, but I found their human chess like match to be acceptable deviation from the norm and in-keeping with the body of their feud. Similarly, El Hijo Del Santo & Villano IV vs El Hijo Del Solitario & Angel Blanco Jr from TXT 2/25/12 is a sensational bloody brawl, complete with a typically engrossing Santo performance. Virus/Guerrero Maya also have a 2011 title match which is incredible, my apologies if that was the one you've seen because they had one in 2013 as well. I haven't seen the 2013 one, but have heard good reports.

Panther/Casas also have a lightning match (ten minute time limit) on 1/27/12 which is also a superb teaser for their lengthier hair vs hair bout. I recall the matwork being very good with Panther busting out a mixture of rugged and violent holds, with Casas more than enhancing the match quality with his brawling and expressive selling.

I also thought Fuego/Valiente vs. Arkángel de la Muerte/Virus from CMLL 2/21/12 was an outstanding tag reminiscent of past Lucha glory. However there were a few divided on the match who saw other problems, but those who loved the match gave it extremely high praise.

Aside from that, there is an abundance of 80s and 90s Lucha of outstanding quality. I'll quickly link the absolute essential viewing:

Sangre Chicana vs MS-1, Hair vs Hair (9/23/83)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0WXVFXtDSc (ignore the date on video, it is the '83 match)

The definitive Lucha bloody brawl imo. Chicana's selling is incredible, the build and payoff to Chicana's initial comeback is exemplary and true lucha perfection, and the crowd are frenetic and add to the piercing tension in the final caida.

El Satanico vs Gran Cochisse, (9/14/84)

Perhaps a top three Lucha title match I can recall seeing. Very little of Satanico is widely avaiable sadly, but what we see here arguably demonstrates his superlative ability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpHDi_A6CWk

Sangre Chicana vs Perro Aguayo, Hair vs hair (2/28/86)

Maybe eclipses the famous '83 Chicana/MS-1 match. There's very little between them imo, and once again Chicana's mere presence and charisma within this bloody environment is as enthralling as peak Jerry Lawler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QupMDu8c8Ts

El Hijo Del Santo vs ***** Casas, (7/18/87)

I'm of the opinion that Dandy/Casas is better than the best Santo/Casas match, probably Santo/Espanto as well. However this is a true gem in their series and demonstrates why their chemistry is revered by Lucha fans.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x102lf_hijo-del-santo-vs-*****-casas-7-18_sport

El Hijo Del Santo vs Espanto Jr, (4/10/88)

I sadly don't have a link to their mesmerising 8/31/86 match, but this is a fine subsitute.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgklzRYoO4E

Satanico vs Sangre Chicana, (5/26/89)

Two of the very best in a superb outing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8uXY7XWbNg

El Satanico/El Dandy/Emilio Charles Jr. vs. Atlantis/Javier Cruz/Angel Azteca, (5/13/90)

Regarded as one of the best trios matches, it's a perfect lead into Dandy/Azteca for the title a few weeks later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoRO33Zmqpw

El Dandy vs Angel Azteca (6/1/90)

Fabulous title match, very highly regarded in close Lucha circles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0fLKAa3QFU

El Hijo Del Santo vs Brazo De Oro, Mask vs Hair, (1/13/91)

Santo in apuestas matches is a thing of beauty and Brazo is more than a fine hand himself. A simple equation that delivers a satisfying result.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e42TRDeHhFg

Blue Panther vs Atlantis, (8/9/91)

The definitive Lucha title match. The matwork is so graceful and engrossing, but the beauty is in the timing and attention to detail in each hold. This isn't an exhibition, with a real sense of struggle for every hold and it truly feels as close to a legit sporting contest between two consumate professionals as you could get in Lucha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHEMrzY8sKQ (part one, follow links to the side for full match)

Los Infernales vs Los Brazos, (11/22/91)

Just sheer greatness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH0yjB1OgTk

Trio Fantasia vs Thundercats, Mask vs Mask (12/8/91)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNwsIirQpew

Timeless chaotic bloody brawl which truly captures the spectacle of an apuestas match. Amazing punches, violent bumps and just sheer insanity throughout the twenty minutes.

El Dandy vs ***** Casas, (7/5/92)

One of the absolute best matches Lucha has produced. Simply extraordinary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8IJh6AaF-Y

Felino vs Ciclon Ramirez, Mask vs Mask (7/9/93)

Classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqg4I03dXFE (part one, rest of match in links to side of the video)

El Dandy vs Javier Llanes, (3/11/94)

Exemplary grappling contest and a true gem of El Dandy's career, which is saying something. Very few Lucha matches will feature better grappling than you'll see on display in this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEbIWqFsU70

Ciclon Ramirez vs Javier Cruz, Hair vs Hair (6/10/94)

Legendary bout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RjzGJkP-jc

Blue Panther vs Atlantis, (12/5/97)

Not on par with their '91 classic, but that's no slight on another great installment in their series.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRM9BH1jNgw
 
#2,725 · (Edited)
Mundo vs Patron is up on YT if people want to seek it. I saw the show this morning. Pretty much met my expectations of a solid show. Storylines advance and typical bamboozalry you would expect from a big AAA show. People should check out the tag match when its up. If you've been following the uploads on their YT channel you will notice that the match quality of those shows is on par with this show. The main storyline is drawn from the politics within drug cartels and their effect on society.

People on twitter have figured that Taurus is a LU character. Somebody for Fenix or Drago to beat most likely.

Also this trolling took place at CaraLucha



Clipped/incomplete matches from the Crash lucha show feat.AAA talent





Only final stretch of Fénix vs Angélico vs Seiya Sanada vs Matt Cross
 
#2,318 ·
Ultima Lucha >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Triplemania XXIII
 
#2,654 ·
Atlantis at 53 years old wrestled one of the best matches of the year. Doing things he has never done in the ring before. 3 topes to the outside, the tope over the barrier, german suplex Sombra off the top rope. One of his best performances ever and Sombra was equally impressive. He bumped huge for Atlantis, and added the pace that kept the match flowing at crucial moments while staying true to his character. Completely captivating from bell to bell. You got to let all your emotions get involved. You really can't say that about every motyc. La Sombra vs Altlantis *****

Absolutely loved the tope over the barrier. He whips Sombra over. Like a master, he pauses. You can see a lightbulb turn on over his head...he puts his head down and charges the barrier..he dives with no regret straight into Sombra's chin.
 
#2,694 ·
Kamaitachi VS Rey Horus, Chilanga Mask, Arena Coacalco, 20-09-15


I see Johnny Mundo is getting a string of bookings for October AAA shows. Mainly teaming with Myzteziz across from Rey. Alberto is not on any of those cards after Guerra de Titanes where he faces Mundo for the title. Hinting a title change is probable. That would be something to see. Mundo as the Megachampion of AAA.
 
#3,772 ·
Wow, people talking about Sexy Star when fucking Dr. Wagner lost his mask. It's amazing how so many people don't get what lucha libre is. Who cares if there's no 6 stars match, Wagner lost his fuckin mask. I mean, don't watch lucha libre expecting NJPW.
 
#862 · (Edited)
Mask vs. Mask
El Hijo Del Santo vs. Espanto Jr. (8/31/1986)

Ok I'm not gonna lie, I'm in the dark when it comes to lucha. This may just be the first lucha match I can EVER recall watching from bell to bell, and holy shit was it good. The first fall is only about 3 or 4 minutes but it was just tremendous. It's nothing but Espanto throwing Santo around the ring like a rag doll. So much more emphasis put on basic moves like a snap mare and a body slam & Santo sells it amazingly. As soon as Del Santo would roll out of the ring to try and get a breather, Espanto would be right back on and throwing him back in to inflict more punishment. Del Santo managed to get a few moves of offense in (which the crowd goes nuts for), until Espanto catches him with a facebuster, locks in some form on a Gory Stretch (idk the exact terminology) and Del Santo gives up in quick fashion. What a squash!

In between the first and second fall, Del Santo gets a loooooot of time to recuperate, quite honestly I'd say too much time, but hey, I don't make the rules. What's amazing is that he's selling everything so well, like he just took the beating of his life. There's little kids coming out of the crowd to give him words of encouragement for Christ's sake! This guy's gotta be like the Hulk Hogan of Mexico, right? Anyway, back to the match. Immediately as soon as Del Santo gets back in the ring, Espanto is all over him once again. More vicious snapmares and submissions holds to just stretch the hell out of every muscle in the body. Eventually he decides to start ripping the mask off of Del Santo's head, which he succeeds in doing, exposing most of the right side of El Hijo. This LIGHTS A FIRE under Del Santo's ass as he runs outside to get his barrings, charges back in and beats the hell out of Espanto. After a quick flurry of offense he hits a suicide dive to the outside, throws a weary Espanto back into the ring, hits a senton back splash and gets a 3-count to even the falls 1-1. Amazing how the mask coming off his face ultimately switched a trigger where he WOKE THE FUCK UP and kicked some ass. Man this is good...

Now it's time for the 3rd and deciding fall. Role reversal here as Espanto is the one who needs the extra time and while Del Santo is still weary of his prior beating, he's still anxious to get back into the action and finish this rudo off. The fall begins and Del Santo immediately hits consecutive running bulldogs. But he decided to go for a 3rd one and gets thrown on his ass instead. Espanto then decides it's time to go to WAR. He throws Del Santo outside the ring, whips him into the ringpost, then bashes over the head with a chair. Del Santo is bloodied and Espanto loves it. He then goes into full on animal mode and starts ripping more of the mask away, biting & punching into the open wound, and repeatedly spits Del Santo's blood from his head out of his mouth. AWESOME. This is getting pretty nasty, but we ain't seen nothin yet.

Remember that back senton Del Santo won his fall with? Well Espanto tries the same, but Santo moves out of the way and the crowd goes bonkers! It's time for Espanto to get a taste of his own medicine, so Santo rips half the mask off his face in one felt swoop, and bashes his head into the ringpost and the metal bars that connect the post & turnbuckles on several occasions. Now we have 2 bloody luchadores with half their respective masks missing from their faces. The last couple minutes are all excitement with dives to the outside, a close countout spot where managers & people at ringside actually throw the combatants back into the ring, & several close calls on pin attempts. The standout moment for me down the stretch is a spot where Del Santo hits a splash from the top rope to the outside and as soon as his body hits Espanto's head, there's immediately blood spilling all down the side of his chest. Grisly scene. I won't spoil the finish for anyone who may wanna watch the match, but let's just say it's a very gratifying end to match loaded with hate and physicality. Both men look like they've been to hell and back. Espanto Jr. is bleeding buckets. AMAZING stuff, feel like I really witnessed something special in the history of Lucha. (Y)

**** 1/2

I wasn't able to find a link to the match online (which is unfortunate), but some of you may know other places to look to find it. I watched it on a DVD-R & I'm not sure if I'd be able to rip that or not. If you do happen to find the match, just be aware the quality is kinda meh and there's no commentary, but it's DEFINITELY watchable. I'd love to hear some feedback from folks who may have seen this already. WOOLCOCK, Yeah1993, Rah, etc.
 
#867 ·
Jack if you want Mask vs Mask, Mask vs Hair & Hair vs Hair bouts:

Sangre Chicana vs MS-1, Hair vs Hair (9/23/83) -

Definitive apuestas match. Ridiculous heat, sensational punches, bumps, legendary expressive selling by Chicana complimented by a violent and true rudo performance from MS-1. Stiff and legitimate violence, Chicana comebacks timed to perfection, sensational selling of exhaustion and desperation as the match takes its toll and the tension becomes unbearable. Fabulous.

Sangre Chicana vs Perro Aguayo Jr, Hair vs Hair (2/28/86) -

Better than the '83 match imo.

Best wrestling discovery I have ever made? This would do well to leave my top 3 brawls of all time truth be told and on first watch it feels like a surefire MOTDC. The chemistry these two men have is frightfully good. The punches, the bumping, the expressive selling, the build and pacing through to the final fall, their ability to make themselves come off as superstars and create this magnetic and pulsating atmosphere that immerces itself into every nearfall in the 3rd fall (of which there are at least 20) is second to none. Chicana is such an underrated brawler, technico and arguably as a worker in general. His offence is magnificent, his expressive selling as compelling and gripping as anyone that has come out of America and he just controls a crowd throughout the match. Perro to his credit isn't far behind and really manages to come off as the ultimate foil to the beloved Chicana. His offence, bumping and timing is extraordinary and he contributes just as much to the match and sequences as Chicana does. All the heat and control segments are enthralling and brilliant with both men timing everything to perfection and bumping stupendously to draw the crowd into everything. Chicana's comeback and its entire build and payoff in the 2nd caida is some of the most beautiful work I've seen in Lucha, and it all stems from the emphatic beating he takes in the opening caida and throughout the second. I can't describe just how violent, authentic and passionate the sequences between these two feel. It truly has that vibrant feel that you only get from two of the very best in this sort of setting.

The final fall may be a top 3 I've seen from Lucha. There's an absurd amount of nearfalls but they build the monumental nearfalls (any submission as well as a couple of quick desperate roll ups) as pivotal and even the minor nearfalls are paced and sold well enough that you can excuse them as just emphasising the desire to win. Neither man cares about following up on offence, the minute their opponent collapses to the ground they'll drop to pin him and save their hair. The dives in the final fall again add to the escalating drama and put over the need to win the match, Chicana's however is the best of the bunch and looks spine shattering as Perro crashes into a row of seats upon impact. The crowd as well add so much to the match, but especially that deciding caida. Every punch, every kick, every nearfall gets a reaction and you can feel the terror in their voices whenever Chicana looks to be on the brink of defeat and the bedlam when he manages to force his way back into the match. Honestly, if you're not a Lucha enthusiast the final fall could prove to much for you, but when you come to understand the psychology in Lucha hair matches and especially the importance of that final fall, this was just awe inspiring.
Jerry Estrada vs Javier Cruz, Hair vs Hair (10/20/89) -

Andy adores this. Can't recall much again (sure I did watch it once though) but off hand Andy labels Estrada's performance as memorable. He's coked out of his head apparently and takes some lunatic bumps which adds to the insanity and utter chaos that dominates the match. Great punches, blood, bumps, tension, pacing & drama etc. Has it all in abundance.

El Hijo Del Santo vs Brazo Del Oro, Mask vs Mask (1/13/91) -

Bloody and mesmerising mask vs mask match. Santo takes a brilliant beating, has beautiful comebacks of agility mixed with frenzied and animalistic violence as the match progresses and sees great execution of the Lucha style to maximise the tension and pace the nearfalls to precision.

Trio Fantasia vs Thundercats, Mask vs Mask (12/8/91) -

Absolutely insane trios match which is mask vs mask. Bodies are flying left right and centre, some corkers of punches exchanged, frightening bumps and dives all combined into a frenetic pace which never drops and leaves you shocked the entire time. Its just an utterly chaotic match in the absolute best manner possible.

Ciclon Ramirez vs Felino, Mask vs Mask (7/9/93) -

Truthfully I don't recall having ever seen this match, but if you can obtain a link I constantly hear it being heavily regarded as one of the best apuestas matches.

Ciclon Ramirez vs Javier Cruz, Hair vs Hair (6/10/94) -

Likewise as with the match above I can't confess to having ever seen it (or if I have my memory is shocking and can't remember for definite) but again its well thought of and definitely strikes me a match you ought to watch if you can find a link and to experience as many of the great apuestas matches as have taken place.

Atlantis vs Villano III, Mask vs Mask (3/17/00) -

So yeah this is just everything you want in a mask v mask match, absolute bloodbath with some brilliant brawling and working of the cut to draw more blood and some absolutely scintilating near falls. A lot of people hate the slow counts in Lucha but this match is as good as any IMO in demonstrating how the slow count builds more intrigue into each nearfall and keeps you continually guessing. Seriously there's a good 10 minutes of nearfalls which feel organic and natural and never feel like its reached overkill territory due to the simplicity of the pinning attempts both men are going for. Hot crowd, plenty of blood, great little touches from both wrestlers and some scorching dives. MOTD contender.

Black Terry v Multifacitico, Mask vs Hair (4/17/08) -

I'm pretty sure there isn't a working link for this match but I constantly hear about it as being touted as one of Terry's best matches and a sensational match so will throw it out here in case anyone can provide a link, however unlikely it would appear.

Black Terry vs Chico Che, Hair vs Hair (1/29/12) -

I'd say overall I preferred this to the first match, but there were a couple of really bad moments which dampened the overall quality of the match. Che was much better here than in the lead in match, a lot less pandering and crowd interaction and more meat behind his punches, headbutts and kicks. His beating in the first and second caida just became more and more vicious as the minutes ticked by and Terry was his usual awesome selling self, looking on the verge of passing out from the blood loss and clutching his ribs for minutes after eating the splash at the end of the first fall. Whole shenanigans with Che's right hand man constantly proving a thorn in Terry's side was superbly played out throughout the match, and the moment in the third fall where Terry just launches a chair at him was incredible. Terry's comeback was short and sweet in the second fall, which was probably for the best given the beating he ate, though I do think it could have been executed/looked better. Third fall was probably the most divisive fall, Che hits a nasty tope and eats a particularly bad landing, both right hand men get more involved throughout which leads to some nice chaotic brawling between all four men and really emphasises the significance of the match, the headbutt exchange in the corner between both was just absolutely disgustingly stiff, and Terry pulls off some amazing punches in between. Terry's right hand man also hits a stunning tope on Che's right hand man to take him out, looked absolutely insane with the speed he got as he flew through the ropes as well as the landing with both men just flying into the chairs.

Sadly the spot where the corrupt ref got taken out was horribly executed, Che taking forever was at least nice selling of the beating (something both men did tremendously, from the heavy breathing to the delayed setups of particular moves), but the ref lying so close to Terry was such lazy telegraphing of the spot and then Terry pulls the ref to the mat, rolls a couple of inches away from and a good 5 seconds later Che somehow hits the ref and completely misses Terry. Just looked so shoddy and poorly timed and really dampened what had been a fine match up until that spot. Finish whilst also quite brilliant in a 'Rudo pisses all over the crowd's hopes' moment was also quite anticlimatic, although I did appreciate Che's right hand man kicking Terry in the balls being the setup to the finish, and despite Terry's right hand man ensuring he wouldn't play another part in the match, the continuing match story of Terry being unable to shake off the right hand man was built to excellently and served as a nice payoff. I'd say this just edges out as my favourite of the two, thanks to a much more tolerable and all round more pleasing Che performance, as well as the constant spots involving the right hand men. But fuck me if it weren't for that awful ref spot this would be a lot higher on any eventual MOTYC list from me.
Blue Panther vs ***** Casas, Hair vs Hair (3/2/12) -

I've found out that CMLL and specifically Arena Mexico don't do blood these days, so sadly this isn't strictly the bloodbath brawl you expect from a Hair vs Hair match. However these two had mixed violent brawling with competitive matwork throughout their feud and therefore I had no mither with them working their own style of hair match, built on bodypart work, selling, superb pacing and the occasional stiff strike or two. Opening fall is tremendous, Casas sets the tempo with a nasty as fuck headbutt as Panther tries to drag him into the ring and the next few minutes are loaded with some strong offence from Casas in particular before a superb flash Fujiwara armbar from Panther for the instant submission. The second fall may even be better as Panther now sets about destroying Casas' shoulder and Casas sells it superbly before unleashing a superb counter into a stretch muffler and immediately capitalises on the weakened leg with a snap dropkick followed by a flash pin to tie the match up. The 3rd fall however is where this really steps into 'excellent' and MOTY territory, Casas destroys Panther's leg with an array of offence and there's this awesome Bryan/Sheamus esque spot where Panther is slowly struggling to put any weight on his leg, and Casas has this shit eating grin at how well his attack has payed off and takes the time to stretch his own legs as an insult. Panther's selling is superb and despite gradually shaking off the work, he sells it in a few sequences to really emphasise the damage still exists, e.g his hobble in the reverse gory bomb hold. A few people may dislike how Casas switches his focus away from the leg, but tbh this feud revolved around the skill and ability of both men, and I saw it more as Casas seeing the leg as something he could exploit whenever he was in danger, but just sought to hook any limb he could get his hands on rather than making his attack predictable and risking Panther spotting this and positioning a flash counter like the one which won him the opening fall.

Both men sell the wear and tear of their onslaught like only the best can, and Panther's superb tope and Casas' resulting selling as his previously injured arm bounces off the guardrail was just a supreme little attention to detail that left me thoroughly impressed. Both men save the big bumps and transitions for the final fall and the pace throughout is flat out superb, there were multiple occasions where one of them would find an opening and look to be on the verge of victory and as a result every little moment of struggle and fight felt that much more emotive and dramatic due to how skilled and vicious both men were throughout. Finish isn't what I'd hope for in a hair match, but it was probably executed as well as it could have been for what they were going for.
 
#877 · (Edited)
The best and worst thing about wrestling is you'll never watch everything you want to.
:clap What a quote.

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Hair vs. Hair
***** Casas vs. Blue Panther (CMLL 3/2/2012)
http://youtu.be/-PYrSPm52_g

These two guys are pretty old, but Casas looks damn good at age 52. Impressed by his overall mobility. Anyways, onto the match. Still intrigues me how different the style of a 2/3 falls match is worked in Mexico. Here in the states you primarily see the 1st fall being the longest since it's used as the basis of a regular match and it takes a while to put your opponent away, yet here in these lucha matches the first 2 falls are usually well under 10 minutes total. Much different than what I'm accustomed to. The first and 2nd fall offer a couple of nice little touches to enjoy like *****'s selling of the injured arm & the use of the basement dropkick to setup the magistral cradle. I LOVED the way the 3rd fall started with the vicious attack on Panther's leg & Casas being totally confident in getting the easy victory until he starts being locked in submissions as well. At times I did kinda feel like they were trading submissions just for the hell of it, not really looking to get a victory. Minor complaint though as they all looked good and usually transitioned into a nice counter or another submission, just wish they would've stuck with the injured arm vs. injured leg story throughout. Really liked what they did outside the ring, especially the way Panther sold that sleeper hold over the ropes like he just fucking died. Also LOVED the desperation tope suicida where (once again) Panther sells like he's dead (had to have been SERIOUSLY gassed at that point anyway) and Casas goes back to selling the left arm, which he definitely caught on the barricade. The finish was pretty creative considering I've never seen anything like that where both guys lose and they both get their heads shaved, but I wish it would've went just a liiiiiitle bit longer and the old guys took just a few more risks. Otherwise, great match but not for everyone.

*** 3/4
 
#1,195 · (Edited)
Man, I don't think I've ever seen a crowd turn on a show quite like they did with the CMLL anniversary show. As soon as the mask vs. mask tag match qualifier ended they were PISSED OFF (and the boos and "fraud" chants went on and on), and rightfully so. On a more positive note, however, there was a lot of good wrestling on this show and the main event in particular was just amazing (if you dig that sort of match that is). Those two guys just killed each other trying to win that crowd and the fact that toward the second part of the match they managed to make the crowd care really speaks volumes about how good those two guys are. Most wrestlers wouldn't have been able to make a hostile crowd like that buy into their falls finishes and show support. So, overall thumbs up for the actual show but thumbs way down for CMLL's bait-and-switch shenanigans with Atlantis/UG.

P.S. Oh, and I should mention this too - Rush is outstanding. Such damn good rudo. I can only imagine how crazy good he will be in a few years once he gets more experience and turns into a full-on rudo.
 
#1,359 ·
Fantasticamania night 1 was awful-average. Would not recomend watching that, over a regular tv taping.

The only thing I got out of it was the interaction between the 2 company's talents and that wasn't all that great.
Highlights for me were : Rush, Ultimo Guerrero, Okada, 1st match, Desperado continuing his streak of landing on people he is not supposed to.

Maybe check out some Hechicero this weekend.

The AAA shows on youtube are focusing on their storytelling rather than match quality. So if anybody wants to recap the year they should watch them.
 
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