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Old 03-14-2012, 08:10 PM   #341 (permalink)
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Yesterday was Marisela Pena’s birthday. She celebrated it by making El Hijo del Santo look like a fool. At a hearing about the TripleMania DVD lawsuit, Santo was set to testify when Pena demanded Santo unmask. They were in court, and she argued she has the right to face her accuser, and even to see if it’s actually him under the mask. Santo was not going to do this, and it sounds like the judge felt this was unnecessary, but allowed the AAA side to postpone the case while this decision was appealed. The reports are just coming from the Santo side, so keep that in mind. It seems to me that if protecting the rights of individual wrestlers is the most important thing, unmasking yourself for a court case to move this process along is a worthwhile price – AAA would’ve looked cruel if he was forced to do it, but they correctly counted on Santo’s ego not allowing that to happen.

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Santo is a dumb,egomaniac that's ruining his father name these days.
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To me it just sounds like the people of AAA are being dicks.
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It's payback, he is suing AAA for including him on the DVD of a show where he refuse to lose in the main event and held the promotion up for more money.

Eye for an eye.

Santo has become a creep. That's why he using drug dealers to support his little promotion. CMLL don't want to work with him. AAA tried to be nice to him but of course he acted like a jackass.
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Im going to ask a couple of silly questions but I would like to watch Lucha. After seeing the NJPW/CMLL shows Ive wanted to see more so heres a few questions.

1- Is every match in CMLL 2 out of 3 falls ( this is serious). Ive tryed to watch a few matches but Im not a big fan of the 2 out of 3 falls thing.

2- How can I watch AAA? I know how to watch CMLL but not AAA.

3- Who are the must see wrestlers from each company ( I like Rush from CMLL and a few others).

4- What are some of the best Lucha matches from this year and years past?

Sorry to be a pain in the ass, Its just I don't know where to start.
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1. YES
2.http://www.youtube.com/user/WarriorsX2000
3. CMLL-can never go wrong with Rey Bucanero Jr., Dorada, La Mascara. AAA has a lot but I like Dark Dragon,Aerostar,Mesias.
4. Too hard too answer, Mesias vs. Wagner Triplemania match is a good start for recent years.
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Old 03-15-2012, 11:15 AM   #346 (permalink)
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El Santo screwed El Santo.
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Im going to ask a couple of silly questions but I would like to watch Lucha. After seeing the NJPW/CMLL shows Ive wanted to see more so heres a few questions.

1- Is every match in CMLL 2 out of 3 falls ( this is serious). Ive tryed to watch a few matches but Im not a big fan of the 2 out of 3 falls thing.

2- How can I watch AAA? I know how to watch CMLL but not AAA.

3- Who are the must see wrestlers from each company ( I like Rush from CMLL and a few others).

4- What are some of the best Lucha matches from this year and years past?

Sorry to be a pain in the ass, Its just I don't know where to start.

Those shows are how I got into Lucha, too (FantasticaMania 2010 to be precise). I'm a sucker for crazy flips and athletic spots so the style was almost a godsend for me.

1) No, they have lightning matches which are basically balls-to-the-wall sprints. They're not that common, but they do pop up from time to time. I was in the same position as you when I first started, but I've gotten used to the format. I must admit the modern Panico booking can be irksome (two short falls and one long third fall), but give it some time and you'll get into the flow. Admittedly, it can help add to the tension of the match when both wrestlers are tied up, or there's need for emotion in the final round.

2) http://www.youtube.com/user/WarriorsX2000
Subbed that channel a long while ago but I've never watched anything from it. I'm not a fan of videos in part files. I'm sure if you Google around (or check the media section here) you'll find some one-shot links.

3) I'm only a CMLL fanboy so I can only comment on their talent, but you can't go far wrong with Rush, Volador Jr, La Sombra, La Mascara (mah boi ) and Averno. On a whole, the legends are mostly prone to putting on stunning matches despite their age (especially in IWRG's Maestro matches, if that's your sort of thing). If you see anything with Super Porky in it, however, run, run very far away.

4)
2012
* Negro Casas Vs Blue Panther (Hair Vs Hair)
* El Hijo del Santo y Villano IV vs El Hijo del Solitario y Ángel Blanco Jr. (It's in three parts on Youtube only, sorry)
* Black Terry Vs Chico Che
* Reyes Del Aire (if you're interested in a ~50 minute match)

As for older matches your best bet is probably to look through Segunda Caida's extensive lists (especially the Black Terry one) and watching all the matches he marked as "EPIC". The "Top Lucha Matches of All-Time" list on luchawiki is also a very good start for those new to the style with matches from as far as 25 years ago.

If I'm to be honest, I don't watch every show nor match. I don't even think I could; as for every great aspect I like, there seems to be just as many (or even more) aspects I despise. As such, I follow storylines and news on Cubsfan's website (if you're to visit any of these links make sure it is this one, it's your best one-stop-shop for lucha anywhere) and only watch matches that either seems integral to the feud or matches that may be match of the year contenders. Besides all that, I wouldn't have the time to watch all the wrestling I do if I was too bogged down by the number of promotions and shows in Mexico alone.

I'd also suggest watching Chikara and any Japanese promotions that tend to work a more lucharesu (a somewhat amalgamated combination of Lucha Libre and Japanese Puroresu) style - such as Michinoku Pro Wrestling and to a lesser extent Osaka Pro and Dragon Gate just to help establish your own niche within the style.

Hope this helps, and enjoy Lucha!
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CMLL 2012.03.10 results:
This episode featured 1st part of Homenaje a Dos Leyendas.

Marcela defeated Ayumi

Olimpico, Averno & Mr. Aguila defeated Valiente, Brazo de Plata & Angel de Oro

Atlantis & Mr. Niebla defeated Rush & El Terrible to win Torneo de Parejas Increibiles 2012
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Just watched the Blue Panther vs Negro Caras match from 3.10.2012. I didn't like the finish but Loved the match. ****1/2 Really awesome.
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They had to ensure the feud didn't end there. I agree that it felt a little flat, but outside of interference there wasn't really much that could lead to a draw. They passed the title on to Casas purely for this feud, so it would have been silly not to incorporate it. In the post-match segment Panther challenged Casas to a future fight where, if he was man enough, the title would be on the line.

News regarding CMLL: Panico has been removed from CMLL's booking position and placed at the helm of managing beer distribution in the arenas. Blue Panther has taken his place in booking.
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