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Old 08-03-2011, 08:40 PM   #241 (permalink)
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That work?

Here's the 1991 match New Blood recommended:


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Old 08-03-2011, 08:45 PM   #242 (permalink)
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I found it so its all good.
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Don't know if this belongs here, but who are the top 10 luchas for you?

I have to say after seeing some Navarro he has to be up there.

This isn't in order but this is how I imagine how my list will look after watching a lot more.

Negro Navarro
El Hijo del Santo
El Dandy
Negro Casas
El Satanico
Blue Panther
Black Terry
Pirata Morgan
MS-1
Atlantis

NOTE: I haven't watched nearly enough to even form a constructed opinion but from what little I have seen so far they're guys I like.
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El Hijo del Santo
Negro Casas
Blue Panther
Atlantis
Negro Navarro
Solar
Fuerza Guerrera
El Dandy
El Satanico


That's nine, not in order. Fuck me for a number 10 spot because lucha guys are as hard to rank as anything. A lot of lucha guys have either five great matches in their whole career while still being great, or like one great match every year or something. Then there's those hwo have one of the greatest matches of all time, and almost nothing else available on tape that's worth *that* much. There has to be at least a dozen guys I could shove in the last spot.
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El Satanico honestly would probably right now today be my pick for GOAT Luchadore and possibly a top 10 guy ever. In every match I've seen of his he's demonstrated some lovely subtle selling touches whether its selling a bump or selling frustration/fear etc. He's shown he can work a wonderful arc triple caida arc in a Lucha title match vs Gran Cochisse and has also been able to brawl with the best. Reminds me of Eddie, Dick Murdoch or Funk in that he's consistently entertaining in every match you see of the guy whereas a few guys in my top 10 for Lucha have some really off days. Satanico seems to be the most consistent Luchadore and my favourite.

El Hijo Del Santo always had a Misawa vibe to me when watching him in that he really came off looking like a Wrestling superman and someone you were blessed in watching. I often hear his UWA work pimped as being some of his best stuff especially on the mat compared to his CMLL work (and a few people seem very sour on his AAA run and basically AAA in general).

Negro Navarro and Black Terry would be the best of modern day Lucha and a definite lock in my top 10, Blue Panther is probably maybe one of my favourite mat workers ever but the guy has a few off matches compared to a guy like Satanico that I can't rank him as the best.

Would probably look something like:

El Satanico
Sangre Chicana
El Dandy
El Hijo Del Santo
Black Terry
Blue Panther
Negro Navarro
Fuerza Guerrera
Atlantis
Javier Llanes/Damiancito El Guerrero

Not seen enough Pirata Morgan for him to be a top 10 guy for me. Same goes for MS-1. Honestly not as big a fan of Casas as others bar the El Dandy 1992 match, El Hijo 87 and 97 match.


EDIT: McQueen give me 30 minutes and I'll try and come back with a better list of good Black Terry stuff, just gotta find some old links and recall the best matches I watched. Guy's been wrestling weekly since 2009 so it kinda all blends together.

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Old 08-05-2011, 05:12 PM   #246 (permalink)
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Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't Sangre Chicana translate to "Bloody Girl"
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Quick google check comes up with 'Chicano Blood' so yeah pretty much.

Guy is really good though as a rudo in getting great heat for minimal stuff. Really charismatic worker.

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I've never heard of him. I don't watch much Lucha though.
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He's retired now I think, was very big in the 70s and 80s. Legendary technico (babyface) and a really good prickish heel though, would have been great in Memphis or Mid South as a touring heel.

1983 match vs MS-1 is amazing, really really gritty and bloody brawl.
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How much of El Hijo's UWA work is on Goodhelmet's set?

You should try and watch some more Pirata, from what I have seen the guy is sick and can pull of some hardcore shit in the ring.

Seen a few guys pimp Fuerza so I need to see more of him sometime.
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